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[PuckishRogue]

I'm leaning towards a bullshit pass the buck decision of "right case wrong plaintiff" where Johnny gets laughed at but the next person up to bat has step by step instructions on how to win.

Here's what gets me: with the gay marriage cake thing, I don't know why either side was acting so pissy. Just make the cake or just get one elsewhere. Both sides were fucking stupid because it's a CAKE. Jesus isn't going to be pissy about some twinks eating your buttercream.

But THIS? This could cost her her marriage and involves unwanted contact with sexual organs. It may not be a sex act, but it's absolutely racially and religiously motivated sexual harassment.

Edit: Other point, the trans women I know who I'm updating on this are so dumbfounded by this. It's obvious to everyone this is a power play by a sexual predator.

 

[Cato]

Considering how insane he is, wouldn’t even suprise me at this point

After I posted that, he tweeted that he had requested they amend the age range to permit him to attend.

So I was right about what outcome he'd seek, but wrong about the method he'd try to use to get there.

 

[Junkail]

JFC, even the member is getting tired of him. Jonathan is a terrible negotiator.

edit: cougared by gobbogobb

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Also, a friend shared this with me on WattPad. He said you guys may like it:

Spoiler: An Elaborate Fuck You to Jonathan

An Opinion Piece on Human Rights and JY - Catherine - Wattpad

Recently there has been an individual going around the internet for a number of questionable acts. More recently, she sued 16 women in the Human Rights Tribuna...

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[The Un-Clit]

Why is 24 the cut off for a "youth" event anyway? A 24 year old is young compared to a 50 year old but they're still well into adulthood.

There's a joke about declining maturity levels of millennials in here somewhere, but it's just not coming together for me....

 

[WGkitty]

Agreed. I bet the court is sweating bullets though over deciding between religious rights and troon feelings.

The JCCF lawyer made a very good point that got kind of mangled by Elsie. Section 27 of Charter of Rights covers that in interpreting rights in Canada the value of multiculturalism ranks supreme. It was determined by supreme court that religion is part of culture. I'm going to quote Wikipedia because it has good wording but Section 27 has been interpreted as meaning that "governments must respect and tolerate various religions, even if it means that some cultural groups may be exempted from certain things the government compels the people to do".

Essentially multiculturalism and thus religion is the primary right in Canada.

Its also important to note that supreme court has ruled that religious beliefs are internal and don't need to be validated by religious leaders.

 

[gobbogobb]

The JCCF lawyer made a very good point that got kind of mangled by Elsie. Section 27 of Charter of Rights covers that in interpreting rights in Canada the value of multiculturalism ranks supreme. It was determined by supreme court that religion is part of culture. I'm going to quote Wikipedia because it has good wording but Section 27 has been interpreted as meaning that "governments must respect and tolerate various religions, even if it means that some cultural groups may be exempted from certain things the government compels the people to do".

Essentially multiculturalism and thus religion is the primary right in Canada.

Its also important to note that supreme court has ruled that religious beliefs are internal and don't need to be validated by religious leaders.

That settles the case immediately assuming no shenanigans. How does this ever get to a hearing if "it's against my religion" is an auto win?

 

[sperginity]

Agreed. I bet the court is sweating bullets though over deciding between religious rights and troon feelings.

In oger v whatcott they ruled for troon feelings over religious rights. Devyn whatserface was on that case too. It wasn't hard for them at all. That case involved a jesus freak guy telling people that Oger, who was running for office, is a man. They wouldn't allow anyone to even discuss oger's biological sex, and iirc the ruling they wrote for oger said that pointing out biology "denies the reality of transpeople" and "accuses transpeople of being deceptive and immoral", so they are obviously treating yaniv very differently. It is because yaniv makes them look bad. The members of the rights tribunal care much more about continuing to fine canadians for wrong think than anything else. The continuation of the human rights tribunal is the ultimate good to the kind of person who would voluntarily serve on it (an SJW, basically). They are steeped in postmodern bullshit so they have no problem with being hypocritical or inconsistent. I have a feeling that they might rule in Yaniv's favor for the complaints that don't involve brazillian waxing. Most people aren't going to give a fuck about the difference between giving him money for an arm wax or a ball wax, being legally compelled to travel to yaniv's house and touch any part of his body is disgusting and wrong.

 

[Munchma Quchi]

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[WGkitty]

That settles the case immediately assuming no shenanigans. How does this ever get to a hearing if "it's against my religion" is an auto win?

Well, first, human rights tribunals aren't courts but can have their decisions appealed to courts. The lawyer is probably trying to win in the human rights tribunal so that they don't have to appeal it.

Second there are still limitations called "reasonable accommodation". Lawyer probably has to set up the argument that these are their clients religious beliefs and will want to defend against any argument that waxing his balls is a reasonable accommodation of those beliefs.

 

[gobbogobb]

So there's no motion to dismiss in the HRT?

Like in the Oger case, there's at least a sick sort of logic where the dude could have not been a massive sped and maybe won. I get why that one went as far as it did.

Even the dumb as shit cake case had some issues that needed to be adjudicated.

I'm not seeing this get past pre trial motions in a us court, that's what's mind boggling.

It would be hilarious though if this were the case that went through the appellate process and totally killed these tribunals.

Wtf I want yaniv to win now.

 

[BallBuster]

I think many people, Farmers and non farmers, want to know how they can help the defendant, because she deserves it.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

I hope if this case is decided in Jonny's favor that waxers and aestheticians have walkout protests. Here are a couple of catchy jingles for their use:

You can threaten
you can sue
But we won't wax
your balls for you!

J Yaniv
Get off our backs
we won't touch
your filthy sack

Balls, a dick
a giant taint
Is it female?
No, it ain't!

If I lived in Langley I'd put one up, Burma Shave style.

 

[Ruin]

I hope if this case is decided in Jonny's favor that waxers and aestheticians have walkout protests. Here are a couple of catchy jingles for their use:

You can threaten
you can sue
But we won't wax
your balls for you!

J Yaniv
Get off our backs
we won't touch
your filthy sack

Balls, a dick
a giant taint
Is it female?
No, it ain't!

Hey hey! Ho Ho! Yaniv's balls have got to go!

 

[Munchma Quchi]

I learned a new word today

Ballgina

 

[VacuousSpooder]

I think many people, Farmers and non farmers, want to know how they can help the defendant, because she deserves it.

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How much you want to bet that if Johnny-boy found out she *might* be receiving help with Kiwis, he'd find a way to make her life even more hell and blame it on her "being supported by an anti-trans hate site"? Because I wouldn't not put that past him, given his very obvious need to lord power over women and foreigners.

 

[moocow]

The wife of that Grade-A dickhead eventually sued the town and got a settlement of $17,600. Given that Mama Yaniv is starting to look nearly as bad as her son, and also knowing that she'd definitely sue the Langley township if anything happened to her son, I can't say I'd feel good about any money going into her pockets.

That's why you (er, I mean, the "accident") hit them both. Ain't nobody going to mourn them or sue on their behalf if they fall in a manhole or get run over by a dump truck.

 

[Cato]

There's a joke about declining maturity levels of millennials in here somewhere, but it's just not coming together for me....

I know the media loves to use "millenial" as a synonym for "young person," but the older millenials are pushing 40 at this point.

 

[one_time_user]

yeah, fuck yaniv. I would donate to the brown lady and her family if she does a gofundme or anything like that

 

[WyattRabbit2]

Apparently the court have clear that transwoman=bio male. SGF makes very clear that transwoman=bio male with all the consequences this entails. The court didn't correct him. Can we hope that they know that gender and sex aren't the same thing?

If Jonny falls down in the forest and dies but no one hears him whine "I'm a woman!"

What then?

If Jonny were dead and laid out on the slab, the coroner would pronounce him a:
"dead white male, mid-thirties, morbidly obese"

 

[General Disarray]

Speaking of intersex (as has just been brought up in the hearing), the only person I've heard of that I think is truly intersex is that person in "I Think We're Alone Now," the documentary about two Tiffany-obsessed men (highly recommend); Kelly McCormick looks and acts like what I visualize when I hear that term.

I have never seen any photos of the genitalia of intersex people (using the definition that confuses some people who think that they have both external sets somehow) AND I DON'T (particularly) WANT TO.