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Just going to clarify this, because this thread is going to get a LOT of outside attention now that the ban's been lifted (yay!). Morgane Oger did not succeed in shutting down Vancouver Rape Relief, a shelter for women (including aboriginal women) who are victims of sexual violence. He did succeed in getting the municipal chunk of its funding pulled, and he chose that angle of attack because he could not have successfully removed all of its funding. He did this because VRR refused to allow men in, and his bullying didn't even work, because they still don't! He uses the same logic as Yaniv to justify this shittiness: if you don't treat trans women EXACTLY like real ones, well, it's got to be illegal. Lurkers can check out more in Morgane's own thread. He's a big enabler of trans bullshit like Jonathan's in the Lower Mainland and deserves more sunlight.
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thanks for this. I knew the headline but not the details. Do you know if it was ever published who the funding is now going to? Did they actually start funding another rape crisis center?
 
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Long time lurker on this thread but just made an account to post, I have tried to transcribe the video. I didn't do a most thorough job, I put things in ** that I couldnt understand. I remember in goinglikeelises tweets she said Miriam said "the boy of the lgbtq" but she is actually saying voice not boy and I didn't hear Jessica ever once be misgenered.


Miriam: I don’t need that, Ok? I won’t *unintelligible* my late husband who in *unintelligible*
the Jewish cemetery. Doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter! I don’t care. They can go, go visit him. I don’t care.
Jessica: dont
Miriam: I don’t!
Jessica: Don’t dont dont
Miriam: *unintelligible*
Jessica: Don’t, don’t say which cemetery please
Miriam: I don’t care
Jessica: Don’t say which cemetery.
Miriam: I want to see somebody touching that
Jessica: Don’t, don’t
Miriam: I WANT TO SEE
Jessica: Mom, don’t. Don’t say which cemetery.
Miriam: I want to see somebody touching -
Jessica: DONT
Miriam: I don’t care
Jessica: I care
Miriam: I know you do
Jessica: So, my - my next question that I have, and I’m
Miriam: This is beyond the scope of this tribunal, a criminal, I called the police, the police will show up and deal with it, the police is on the way. I’m telling you this much. And an ambulance for my *son/self*.
Jessica: Um, kay. So my next question is, how important to me is my body image, and receiving gender affirming care? By gender affirming care I mean things such as manicures, things such as waxing, haircuts. The whole - how important is that to me?
Miriam: It - beyond anything that I have seen. I never *unintelligible* gender, this is completely new to me. When you came out in July, a year after *you done it?*, and you telling me after you told everybody else but me. It’s ok, I’m ok with it. No, I’m ok with it, but I could see one, you pushing the weight off your shoulder. So, why. Why do you want me to come, exactly? Why, are you ashamed? No, you are not. You are proud, and I applaud you to want to become the voice of the LGBQ and I applaud and I a proud mom that you want to. And being the voice, you need to present yourself as the right gender that you identity - identify with. Which means that you need service, in this case not denied, but accepted in order to become who you want to be.
Jessica: Um, do you consider haircuts and waxing - do you consider haircuts and waxing gender affirming care to further validate my gender identity, expression and sex as female. Yes or no?
Miriam: ya.
Jessica: So - oh, this is an important one that just gives *unintelligible back and forth*
Miriam: I don’t need to go into my emotion because I am not in a state of *unintelligible*
Jessica: So, ok. So I’m gonna get on- I’m gonna ask questions that give you overall picture of what I experience on a day-to-day basis, including stuff like this. If I may. So, so I am with you almost 24 hours a day.
Miriam: Or more
Jessica: Almost.
Miriam: My private time is an hour that I can have in a hot bath (Jessica interjects throughout this)
Jessica: So, I am with you a lot. We go to malls and such, we go to Tim Hortons, A&W, and all of the places. So what I am-
Miriam: You want to go, you want me to take, I don’t want - (I think I misheard this)
Jessica: What I - What I’m asking is have there been instances of discrimination towards me that you have personally seen. And describe some of those.
Miriam: Yes. And I was beside myself, because I did not realise the day to day iternet until I saw it myself. We went to a meeting with the Council of Langley, and it was a very nice *unintelligible* meeting, I enjoyed it a lot but it was clearly all about nine thirty, ten o clock at night. We went to Tim Hortons *unintelligible*, not going to say the location because it’s too personal, it will identify where we are. It’s a central location of Tim Horton. Jessica went [5:00] to the display to order some food, she was - pre-diabetes, she should have, she could feel in her blood sugar going down. And I was hungry too. And there wasn’t food. And, when we went into the window and ‘for you? Not for you. You can have only a drink. Food, no. So we didn’t even take the drink, we drove away. We went to a different Tim Horton in our neighbourhood. Ok, I am not going to say. We went to a different *unintelligble* Now, my assumption, I don’t know if we saw the person that was in the first location, but it belonged to the *unintelligible* that denying services to Jessica *unintelligible*. So I don’t want to go into racial, I’m not a racist, but they have something against gender. Is it based on religion, is it based on culture, I don’t know. The only thing I can say in regards to this is, I have two questions [someone farts] I have been to the previous proceeding, I wanted to say, to talk, but my position in public did not allow me. Now Im allowed. There are two points here. And first of all, I wanted to ask if father of - I don’t remember her name -
Jessica: Oh, um Suki
Miriam: With the translator
Jessica:With the translator?
Miriam: I don’t remember it
Jessica: Suki Hee Hargel [this can’t be right but idk how to check the tribunal records and its not that important]
Miriam: I don’t - I could not understand why the tribunal agreed to have a translator here. When I myself immigrated, I don’t know how long Mr Thorncop [wrong name again] is in Canada, but when you come to Canada you have to know the language. Otherwise why you coming here. You don’t want to amalgamate into the culture, why are you here? You cannot come to this country and force your religion and culture upon us. I am not enforcing my religion or my culture, or my belief on you. Don’t enforce them on me. And another thing I want to ask the gentlemen is do you go to the bank, or to the doctor. *unintelligble* So this was a big step to extend our nerves to the limit by providing a translator that took forever and ended up without wasting *unintelligble*. I don’t agree with my taxpayer paying for this translator, this is not the way I want my tax payment, to see my tax payements to go. And so, if I am stepping too far here, but it’s just my belief. The other question is human rights vs religion. Where do we go here? What *unintelligble as camera moves*
For me, human rights. I am a very religious person, I am a very ingrained Jewish person. I believe in God. God is holding me here right now. Why. Why do they have the right to come here, spending your time, the tribunals time, trying to convince you that their religion is not allowed them to touch a transgender, and men. Or whatever. Why? Why do you allow this to happen. Im sorry - I’m -
Devyn??: That’s ok. Miriam I think, I think you need, I think we’re getting far afield of the evidence that is going to be used,
Miriam: It can be for tomorrow
Devyn: I’m giving quite a bit of leeway here, so that you can get out what you need
Miriam: What that?
Jessica: Shes giving a lot of leeway here
Miriam: I’m sorry, I’m sorry
Devyn: I cannot use what you’re saying today in cases where the people you’re talking about are not here
Miriam: I know, ok I’m sorry
Devyn: Ok, because it’s not fair,
Jessica *unintelligble* tommorow, so they fair
Devyn: So is there anything else about Judy Tran’s case?
Miriam: I’m sorry. I’m not familiar with all of this, it’s a new environment for me.
Jessica: Um, now, we talked, we talked - well you answered a lot of this with *unintelligble* when you asked the *unintelligble* questions.
Miriam: So don’t ask them again then
Jessica: No, sorry. Ok. So I asked you about in person. I asked you about what happened in person -
Miriam: One minute, I said Tim Hortons. Now going to services, we are known. Of course we are known in *unintelligble, and Jessica say something*. Jessica went in and said I want my eyelashes filled in because half of it fell out. It was an important day before *unintelligble*, court appearance the next day so she wanted to look nice. I said go ahead, go, we have time. Go. So, she went in. At the beginning, yeah we do that, ok, we do that. Few minute after, no the woman that is doing it, she is not here, she is on vacation. I have to move forward, I have to a- no we cannot do that, goodbye. Then we went to the food court to order some food, I decided to go back and said I want my hair done. Sure you can. Can you do my eye brow - oh, my lashes? Sure we can. So, Hello. Jessica as a transgender cannot access those services, when I can because I look more like a woman than Jessica does.
Jessica: And then what did they say - you got a cramp, you ok? - What did they say when you asked if I can get the service. What did they say when you asked what about Jessica? What- what did - So they said, oh yeah you can get the service, you can get your eyebrows done, but when you asked if I can get mine done, what did they say
Miriam: No, no you can’t.
Jessica: Exactly, So, we talked, I’m almost done here, a couple more questions.
Miriam/ Jessica unintelligible exchange but it sounds like she wants to go and something is going on.
Jessica: I will, I’m almost done. Ok. So you -
Miriam: How important is it?
Jessica: It is important, it is important. Because youve seen the in person discrimination. But do you remember sitting with me at the dining room table, online approaching a salon, where you told me literally what to say, and seeing the backlash that I get for facials?
Miriam: Yes I do
Jessica: And what did they say
Miriam: No
Jessica: Exactly. Why, it’s because I’m transgender, right?
Miriam: Well it’s obvious and also *Camera shifts cant understand* I dunno, I dont know about that. Jessica?
Jessica: So, yeah. The question here. Do you think that much of - do you believe that much of this harrasment and refusal of service is a version of Neo- Nazism? That being-
Miriam: Why would you go there? As a Jewish person -
Jessica: No, I don’t know why I’m asking *back and forth and camera shifting* I’m going to ask the same question tomorrow. I
Jessica: Do you believe that much of the harassment and refusal of service - do you know what Neo-nazism is?
Miriam: Ya
Jessica: Ok. You do. So do you, do you believe that much of the harassment and refusal of service is a part of neonazism as the part one, and the part two of the question is, so, basically the reason I’m asking this is because neonazis seek to employ their ideaology to promote hatred and attack minorities, and
Miriam: Ok, I know where you’re going, I know
*camera shifting, unintelligible speaker is muffled*

Miriam: - Maybe tomorrow. I, yes. Even, I’m jewish. The backlash against, *muffled* as a jewish person, have been publicised, I’m not ok with this, my sister is not going. *muffled* I want to do a birthday party within the community, she wont go. She is refusing to go because of the antisemetism and the stress that we are experiencing as Jewish people because of social media.
Devyn: So, how much, how many more questions do you have?
Jessica:One - two more, and then we are done. The first question, I think you answered, is what is the impact of the discrimination towards me?
Miriam: I already answered that a hundred times. I’m not answering that again.
Jessica:Ok. So the last question I have, ya, cause you’ve already answered *muffled* - Describe my personality.
Miriam: What do you want? You are the most wonderful daughter that I ever had, and our connection is deepened day by day and day by day I am more proud, more proud of you, and really just proud of you. And I’m sure dad is too, and so is papa and omi, and ima. We all are proud of you, you are wonderful, your mission is wonderful. Becoming the voice of the *unknown* excuses, minorities, is wonderful. It’s just - I don’t know. I’m a proud mom. This is all I can say. I really am proud mom, and I’m not saying it just before the court. I am proud because its just that I wouldn’t be here if not for you, I wouldn’t be here. *unknown* I don’t care. I don’t care. We are all *unknown*. And her picture is out there. She don’t know about it because she’s not the tech that good, if she find out, she will jump.
Jessica: um
Miriam: enough?
Jessica: That’s everything.
Miriam: I think so - we have two hours.
Devyn: thank you, so, I’ve heard the evidence that i need for this, so this proceeding. *muffled* No, I don’t have any questions. What I want to say though, is if you plan on having Miriam to testify tomorrow, you need to give Mr. Cameron note of that today. He may object, I will decide wether to allow it. But I want you, when you go home tonight you need to be prepared in case you can testify. And then Miriam Yaniv, you will be prepared that he will ask you questions
Miriam: I don’t have any fear. I’m not trying here, and everything is messed up. *muffled* anybody can ask me any questions.
Devyn: Ok. And as I have said, I have today allowed the testimony to go on for quite a bit longer, just beyond what I’m going to be able to use in this proceeding, so what has happened is I have heard it all, but now I take it and I decide if I can give it any weight, or no weight at all. That’s something I do in my decision. I think, when there’s somebody else in the room, as you know, you can anticipate some objections for some of these topics -
Jessica: I know
Devyn: -And frankly, you know, it’s likely that what you will be able to testify about tomorrow is going to be more limited.
Miriam:
Jessica:I know
Miriam: This is your court room, this is your proceeding, you’re in charge of it, and I respect that, and if you say objection, I do understand that. As I said before I don’t understand - this is a new environment for me, I’m just talking my heart out.
Devyn: Thank you, so I am just preparing you for that because some of the testimony about matters that are not the subject of this *muffle camera but she seems to be explaining that she has discretion to do things and giving them advice about some stuff the defendants will do*.

Jessica: Because I know the tribunal is under - Is there any threshold that you or the other tribunal members are able to award when it comes to costs??
Devyn: Ok this is, I cannot *muffled, something about other party?* we’re on the record so I’ll hear the question, but I cant talk to you about other cases. Is there a maximum costs threshold under the law? No
Jessica: There isn’t?
Devyn: No.
Jessica: Ok. ha ha. Ok.
Devyn: Ok. So I will see you back here at ten o clock tomorrow morning *muffle* todays proceedings are adjourned
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Wow, thank you! So his worry about the Jewish cemetery being named because it’s the one his dad is buried in. Looks like he’s worried about making Daddy (or his paternal family members) angry even in the grave.

Or maybe he just knows once you start Miriam talking about her dear husband’s grave she will never stfu and turns into Sandra Bernhardt.

I really hope ppl keep digging with Johnny’s family because it seems to be the one point of shame or worry this otherwise shameless pervert has.
 
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WGkitty said:
It's not anti LGBT, it's anti you. Big difference.
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Maybe he thinks LGBT stands for 'little girls, babies and toddlers' and this has all been one HUGE misunderstanding.

Sarcasm aside, I can't wait until someone makes him explain his pedo tampon shit publicly now that everyone is starting to pay attention.
 
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lightswitchdoll said:
Maybe he thinks LGBT stands for 'little girls, babies and toddlers' and this has all been one HUGE misunderstanding.

Sarcasm aside, I can't wait until someone makes him explain his pedo tampon shit publicly now that everyone is starting to pay attention.
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I laughed so hard my beer came out my nose and fuck me, it stings. That is truly excellent, surely "maybe he thinks LBGT...." is random text worthy?
 
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To Yaniv, he thinks he IS the LGBT+ in Vancouver. As in, he seems to think he is a ambassador for the queer community, and thus an attack against him is an attack against the whole community. It's a fascinating delusion to watch unfold.

Have to wonder where your shield is now, huh Jon-Boy?
 
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Troon Anthropologist said:
It’s literally his own words being used against him. Guess he’s anti-lgbt now. :story:

Did he ever find the sticker?
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I hope whoever is putting these stickers up, ups their game and paints them on with some gorilla glue. Maybe even glue a tampon above it for good measure. Just out of reach oh his grubby little sausage fingers. He can bat the tampon string like a fetish obsessed mongoloid while the whole building laughs at him.
 
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Poppen said:
I think Tamponathan made a big mistake only targeting WoC waxers as he could have had tranny rights groups on his side if they were white. We've all seen how powerful some of these TRA can be but they won't get involved if theres a hint of racism.
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But then the respondents might have a grasp of English, knowledge of the issues at hand and the financial ability to defend themselves. That's not really Jonathan's game.
 
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JY's Tampon said:
when anti-LGBT stuff is posted outside my home, then what...?
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Clearly the person who wrote the highly offensive material should be incarcerated. Luckily the stickers include the persons internet handle, they should be reported for their hate speech

MirnaMinkoff said:
Wow, thank you! So his worry about the Jewish cemetery being named because it’s the one his dad is buried in.
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When I was listening it sounded like she actually named the cemetery very early on, it’s just hard to understand.

one_time_user said:
to anyone trying to transcribe - if you get it in mp3 format, amazon developer has a really great speech to text transcription service. the first hour a month is free and then it's billed after that. it comes out to about 50 cents an additional hour.
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This would have been amazing, I am not sure if it would have worked for Miriam’s speaking though. I am more familiar with her accent and speech patterns and even then it was a bit of a pain.
 
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BallBuster said:
Well Mr. “biologically female” is not technically a part of the LGBTQ community if you’re insane enough to believe that claim. Somehow he is a MtF trans woman but also a biological woman. How that works is anyone’s guess.
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I know there was a running gag in some terf spaces a while back about responding to "transwomen ARE women!! they're just the same!" style BS with "well then I identify as a circumgender FtMtF transwoman!" but like... that was just a joke. By women. idek what Jonny has been snorting to come up with this shit lol.
 
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