Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

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Guess Kat's weight.

  • >200 lbs.

    Votes: 22 3.5%
  • 200 lbs.-250 lbs.

    Votes: 125 20.0%
  • 250 lbs.- 300 lbs.

    Votes: 110 17.6%
  • Damn that's a huge bitch.

    Votes: 369 58.9%

  • Total voters
    626
Though there is the caveat of her absence, which I doubt very much is what Phil had in mind. I mean she goes so much out of her way to appear nonexistent that no matter what accidentally happens, the thought of her having been gone for years just cannot be killed off, because it still isn't enough.
Phil definitely originally planned to use her for content. He bragged about it beforehand. I think that day she got brutally roasted in his chat was the day she killed those plans though. Very few women are willing to sit and be called ugly for hours on end without some sort of huge benefit, and she isn't the streamer. Phil is. So why stick around?

Also unless we think it was Phil's mom vacuuming in the background that one time, someone is there.

...and Leanna clearly actually spent time with Phil off-camera.
Based on what evidence?

Not that I believe they didn't, but isn't there as much evidence that he and Kat sit around gorging DoorDash and playing gacha/Skyrim on the couch as there is he and Leanna spent time together off-camera?
 
It's possible that Kat herself doesn't want any unnecessary attention fixated on herself because that's just her personality, she doesn't seem to be a very extroverted in the slightest, those reveal and Halloween streams seemed to me that Phil wanted to bragg that he had "loving" wife that wanted to play dress up with him (yeah totally something a mature adult would do) you could tell she really didn't want to be there.

We have only had the slimmest amount of evidence suggesting she still lives with him if you actually look at any given evidence not from the Pig's mouth, mostly being those enchanted audio clips where you can hear them boasting about the Mexican food, so I don't blame people who think in particular that she's actually not in the snort fort anymore, because she really is like a ghost to ua, and is hardily apart of Phil's life from what we can gather, except for one day of the week if you take Phil's word for it, and even then she's apparently not going out with him on his days off to eat and get groceries anymore.
I think it's just a result of Phil and audience. If she were that averse to attention she probably wouldn't have tried streaming on her own. If Phil were a normal guy and had a normal audience she probably would enjoy being on the stream.
 
I think it's just a result of Phil and audience. If she were that averse to attention she probably wouldn't have tried streaming on her own. If Phil were a normal guy and had a normal audience she probably would enjoy being on the stream.
Yeah I did forget about how she wanted to propell her own streaming career, albeit poorly but she did for a while.

I wonder if Phil filled her head with any ideas about his audience or what his streaming routine would entail before he graced her with the idea about streaming with her alongside him, since it's not exactly hard to find Phil's past records and behaviour on how he conducts himself on camera, I think he really did leave her in the dark about a lot of things (and likely still does since it's his "business"), and was pretty mortified after those few on camera appearances and thought to herself "nope, never again".

That creep shot Phil's done with her back facing the camera whilst playing Skyrim in that depressing room speaks for itself, Phil really wanted to show off his loving wife who plays games for his audience to see this as well, but she really didn't want to partake in that charade at all and probably explains why she's cut off all social media engagement, even the little she can't control like Phil's Instagram snaps.
 
Kat being a ghost is part of what makes her perfect for DSP. DSP likes having a "trophy wife" to brag about. While I'm sure there were many other contributing factors, in Phil's mind, his relationship with Leanna really fell apart when she started demanding they spend more time together/go out and do stuff. IIRC, that's actually the origin of Phil's day off, he said he needed time to spend with his mom. Before that, he somehow managed to find time to go grocery shopping without dedicating a full day to it.

When Phil continued to ignore her, she started hanging out with friends from work and doing her own thing. She realized that, it wasn't normal to live like a hermit. In comparison, Khet is extremely low maintenance. He doesn't have to give her any sort of attention whatsoever, and when they are doing things, it's stuff Phil enjoys. Namely ordering Door Dash and going to restaurants. Hell, even on her birthday, they went to BK, which I don't think is a stretch to say was a Phil decision.

For Phil, the least perfect thing about her is she can't cook, but I think even that is a net positive because it justifies ordering through Door Dash more. Given Phil's general food preferences, I'd say he enjoys fast food more than he enjoys quality meals. I agree that he wanted to monetize Khet based on the way he talked about her before she arrived, but I think it was like how he talked about monetizing Jasper after the reveal.

I think his pride is what stopped it. He thought Khet was going to own the detractors and had this fantasy they'd all admit defeat and convert to being paypigs because they'd be so in awe of the fact Phil had an 11/10 girlfriend. Instead, he got roasted for buying a horse/endured a wave of Leanna comparisons. Even if it had worked, I think he'd ultimately be unhappy with it. The few times we've seen Phil streaming alongside other people, he pretty quickly gets upset when the spotlight isn't on him.
 
iirc they originally planned to hit up a sushi restaurant but it was closed...?
I thought it was too busy and they didn't want to wait. Which arguably makes Phil look worse because it shows he didn't care enough about Kat to make a reservation, and instead of trying to pick a second restaurant she'd enjoy, resorted to Burger King. And keep in mind, this was the infamous chicken sandwich, which Phil put way more effort into than celebrating Kat's birthday. We also know they have no trouble finding restaurants to eat at on Phil's day off, so it isn't like there weren't better alternatives than Burger King.

In any event, it also shows another reason they're so good together. As far as we know, Khet was satisfied with the fast food offering. I can't imagine Leanna (or really, anyone else) reacting so well to that. Especially when you compare how big of a deal Phil makes his birthday at the gout mansion.
 
I thought it was too busy and they didn't want to wait. Which arguably makes Phil look worse because it shows he didn't care enough about Kat to make a reservation, and instead of trying to pick a second restaurant she'd enjoy, resorted to Burger King. And keep in mind, this was the infamous chicken sandwich, which Phil put way more effort into than celebrating Kat's birthday. We also know they have no trouble finding restaurants to eat at on Phil's day off, so it isn't like there weren't better alternatives than Burger King.

In any event, it also shows another reason they're so good together. As far as we know, Khet was satisfied with the fast food offering. I can't imagine Leanna (or really, anyone else) reacting so well to that. Especially when you compare how big of a deal Phil makes his birthday at the gout mansion.
Lol. Just look at the places he took Panda for her birthday (his girlfriend) compared to Kat (his wife).
 
You're right. They originally planned to go to their favorite "old Americana style" diner but they forgot it was Sunday (...lol) and it was packed with a line to get seated, so he took her to BK before they planned to drive to a further away spot to do some shopping before a sit down dinner in a place Kat chose.

Just rewatched the whole debacle. Her whole birthday was a clusterfuck. She made them a reservation at a Japanese restaurant hoping to try some sushi and when they get there the sushi chef has the day off. :story:

 
Also unless we think it was Phil's mom vacuuming in the background that one time, someone is there.
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, if Katherine weren't making such a concerted effort, we would have more than just some noises that, given the context of the DSP universe, can be explained by assuming that Phil is hiding something that normal people wouldn't.

And that part is really important, James Rolfe's wife never appears in videos, but given the context of his past, I have no reason to be suspicious that she moved out without divorcing him and now he has his mom there. That's just not a Rolfe thing. But Phil would totally lose his wife and refuse to be honest about it. As well as have his parents over for Thanksgiving and lie about it, probably from Katherine not being a part of the festivities.
Based on what evidence?

Not that I believe they didn't, but isn't there as much evidence that he and Kat sit around gorging DoorDash and playing gacha/Skyrim on the couch as there is he and Leanna spent time together off-camera?
Perhaps not solid evidence, but when you look at them together on camera before things started to sour, they didn't look like them being a couple was just for show, that they slept in separate bedrooms and whatnot. I wasn't around, but I also don't imagine Phil was constantly having to make up shit about the time they spend together, because what reason did he have to do that back then? Especially before the relationship started falling apart.

Also, a lot of what Phil filmed, looked like stuff they were going to do anyway, and his mind went to monetizing it because of course it did. I believe Rambo and Howard talked before about how they were taken aback by how much Phil tried to film everything they did. He just doesn't seem capable of handling a real plan on anything, I mean Project 7 was planned out and look how that ended. It's too adult for him, I guess.
In any event, it also shows another reason they're so good together. As far as we know, Khet was satisfied with the fast food offering. I can't imagine Leanna (or really, anyone else) reacting so well to that. Especially when you compare how big of a deal Phil makes his birthday at the gout mansion.
Thing is, the upside to having a partner who's vocal is that you don't have to try going out of your way to stop the speculation of them being gone. No one thought that of Leanna until a certain point, right? I cannot see a situation wherein Phil is okay with having to make shit up about having a soulmate he's married to living with him because she won't even consent to a picture that shuts everybody up. We're talking about the guy who won't admit to using guides and gets really pissy about the accusations despite constantly feeding into them.

I don't think Phil wants to spend a lot of quality time with Katherine, but I do think he's very dissatisfied with the level of effectiveness in selling his LARP, that he's locked at, because she won't cooperate with him. He just isn't based enough in general for me to believe otherwise, especially when he gets testy with people over the inquiries he doesn't have good answers to.
 
Yeah I did forget about how she wanted to propell her own streaming career, albeit poorly but she did for a while.

I wonder if Phil filled her head with any ideas about his audience or what his streaming routine would entail before he graced her with the idea about streaming with her alongside him, since it's not exactly hard to find Phil's past records and behaviour on how he conducts himself on camera, I think he really did leave her in the dark about a lot of things (and likely still does since it's his "business"), and was pretty mortified after those few on camera appearances and thought to herself "nope, never again".

That creep shot Phil's done with her back facing the camera whilst playing Skyrim in that depressing room speaks for itself, Phil really wanted to show off his loving wife who plays games for his audience to see this as well, but she really didn't want to partake in that charade at all and probably explains why she's cut off all social media engagement, even the little she can't control like Phil's Instagram snaps.

Iirc all these moments are from BEFORE they got married, so clearly it wasn't a deal-breaker to tying the knot.

They're had a weird relationship ever since he flew her out to go to IKEA with him.
 
You're right. They originally planned to go to their favorite "old Americana style" diner but they forgot it was Sunday (...lol) and it was packed with a line to get seated, so he took her to BK before they planned to drive to a further away spot to do some shopping before a sit down dinner in a place Kat chose.

Just rewatched the whole debacle. Her whole birthday was a clusterfuck. She made them a reservation at a Japanese restaurant hoping to try some sushi and when they get there the sushi chef has the day off. :story:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vcwSrckiJQs
I did research at the time. DSP lied about the sushi chef being off. What really happened was the restaurant has 2 locations in the Seattle area. The problem is that only one of those locations serves sushi and Kat made the reservation at the restaurant that doesn’t serve sushi. All of this information was easily available on the restaurant website where each location has a separate menu listed.
 
I did research at the time. DSP lied about the sushi chef being off. What really happened was the restaurant has 2 locations in the Seattle area. The problem is that only one of those locations serves sushi and Kat made the reservation at the restaurant that doesn’t serve sushi. All of this information was easily available on the restaurant website where each location has a separate menu listed.
Could you post the evidence?
 
Phil should have manned up like that day he made a true home made custom pizza by his very own hands! (Ok if you disregard the premade pizza base he used) and made Sushi himself for his loving wife instead, how nice that would have been for Phil to do something physical taxing that wasn't for himself but someone else.

Now I would have loved to have seen that abomination posted on his twitter/instagram, it would have looked like some open faced sushi burrito monstrosity with half cooked rice and god awful fillings.
 
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Phil should have manned up like that day he made a true home made custom pizza by his very own hands! (Ok if you disregard the premade pizza base he used) and made Sushi himself for his loving wife instead, how nice that would have been for Phil to do something physical taxing that wasn't for himself but someone else.

Now I would have loved to have seen that abomination posted on his twitter/instagram, it would have looked like some open faced sushi burrito monstrosity with half cooked rice and god awful fillings.
If there's anything to demonstrate that Phil's attitude goes way beyond the streams (the uninitiated could certainly be forgiven for making that mistake), it's stuff like that. The non-option of exerting himself in a meaningful way, not even for the woman he supposedly loves. He won't even lie and say he does such things. His mind goes right to "spending money will be so impressive", even though it has been all these years of getting dunked on, for that exact thought process.

It isn't just laziness, either. It's not caring about others, at all. People don't refuse to change when they care about how they make others feel.
 
Phil has always treated his relationships (romantic or otherwise) like an absent father trying to make good by spending money on his kid(s).
 
Jenna is now into pissing herself, or something?

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you know there's a higher than zero chance Kat reads the farms.
phils mouth probably mentions it constantly
also what else is there for kat to do all day?
all we know for sure is that she works for 20ish hours a week and goes home to play her switch.
she doesn't have any social media, but she has used it in the past, so she probably has a secret alt account or browses in secret. not a secret farms account, but likely a secret twitter or Instagram.
as for her farms spectating. remember that its unlikely she plays skyrim 8 hours a day. so she probably uses the internet as well, likely on her phone or a laptop.
kat if you're reading this, know that phil is a slowly sinking ship.
just because he has an 11ish year beggacy doesn't mean its going to last very long
i'd say phils done before his 20th year, so plan an escape.
 
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