Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

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Guess Kat's weight.

  • >200 lbs.

    Votes: 22 3.5%

  • 200 lbs.-250 lbs.

    Votes: 125 20.0%

  • 250 lbs.- 300 lbs.

    Votes: 110 17.6%

  • Damn that's a huge bitch.

    Votes: 369 58.9%
  • Total voters
    626
Hamburger Detractor said:
I just had a scary thought...with Ethan Ralph joining the snortex, what if Jenna ends up being baby mama #3 and him and DSP end up brother-in-laws?
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Jenna weirdly represents just how lackluster DSP as a personality has become. DSP literally marries a girl who has a mentally-ill, drug addicted, homeless and sex crazed sister who just so happens to be obsessed with the Phil or the attention surrounding him.

And yet nothing really of substance has come from it. That for Ethan Ralph resulted in the corn harvest. For a Phil it has yet to manifest into anything.
 
As an unapologetic Khet hater (I fucking hate lazy fat low IQ bitches like her with a passion) I have to say, I hope that DSP wasn't bullshitting about her busting his balls about making a jackass of himself on the internet. If Khet is a ball buster as the DMs imply, she got a few extra points in my book. SUFFAH PHIL
 
Big Brown Schlub said:
As an unapologetic Khet hater (I fucking hate lazy fat low IQ bitches like her with a passion) I have to say, I hope that DSP wasn't bullshitting about her busting his balls about making a jackass of himself on the internet. If Khet is a ball buster as the DMs imply, she got a few extra points in my book. SUFFAH PHIL
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I know Phil is a chronic liar who constantly fishes for sympathy so he's far from a reliable source, but IMO those parts of the DMs felt legit to me. It lines up with what little we've been told about Khet and the few glimpses we've had into their married life. I'm still in the camp of them not interacting too much, I mean, we can account for where DSP is a good chunk of the day, and Khet obviously isn't with him. Phil's also stated a few times (again, not the most reliable source, but it'd be an odd thing to lie about) that on his day off, he was doing his chores alone while Khet was home playing games.

This is pure speculation on my part, but it might explain why he accidentally insults her so much. It might be his passive aggressive side lashing out. But because this is Phil, it might also be his alien way of speaking/not thinking before he speaks.
 
Martys_not_smarty said:
We should get a poll going of what fake BS condition Mrs. Ed has my nominees are fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, crohns and colitis.
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For posterity's sake, the DMs Phil recently released claim
* Kat has been sick since early 2024
* She may need major surgery
* There are multiple problems
* Phil and Kat got a second opinion on 2 October 2024
* The second opinion was only possible because of the extra Kino money. So yeah, he was unwilling to cut back on Champions to get that appointment sooner.
* These health problems made Kat a believer, but Phil did not see the light until ~mid to late October of 2024.
* As of Halloween 2024 the doctors were able to rule out cancer but unable to figure out what it was.
* Some time between Halloween 2024 and March 2025, the problem was diagnosed as a combination of thyroid + ovarian issues. These have also left Kat infertile, at high risk of cancer, and caused her weight to fluctuate.

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The King is Feeling LUCKY!! (TheyCallMeDSP)
So my wife is sick and has been all year. And she's not getting better. Not cancer but she has
multiple things going on and this year has been hell for us. I've lied a lot to my audience
about it bc it's nobodies business. We did some stuff on stream together earlier this year like
q&a and co-op and we'd planned to do way more. Then things got way worse. She may need
major surgery and we are pretty scared and hoping for the best. You are the only person I've
told about this. And now let me tell you why I'm telling you this
10/1/2024 2:56 AM
PPP (PoweroftheTruth)
Phil I'm gonna back you to the bitter end now ok? I am going to do my very best. I feel so bad
phil... I will pray for you and her. Fuck,,,
10/1/2024 2:56 AM
The King is Feeling LUCKY!! (TheyCallMeDSP)
She has found religion again this year as a result of all of this going on. It's really rough for
me bc I used to be religious earlier in my life and then I changed. I'm supporting her through
it all. And we are really hoping that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I think there is.
And then out of nowhere I'm doing stuff with you guys and things are going well and we're
making extra money. We are going to see a different doctor on Wednesday of this week bc
we can afford it. But I think you can kind of figure out why I cannot become the big heel of
the internet right about now
10/1/2024 2:58 AM
The King is Feeling LUCKY!! (TheyCallMeDSP)
Right now we are just trying to figure out if I can take an extra day off like 2 times a month
so we can do more stuff together. And it's actually looking good so I think we .might do that
starting in November
0/30/2024 11:49 PM
The King is Feeling LUCKY!! (TheyCallMeDSP)
Hey so I again want to say thank you so much for everything you guys have done for me and
my family by giving me a chance instead of treating me like dirt. Fyi today my wife was able
to get a critical test and found out she doesn't have cancer, which is something we were
incredibly afraid of all year. We were able to find that out bc we can now afford it. We are still
incredibly frustrated bc she has medical issues that apparently cannot be explained yet, and
we really thought this was the answer as BAD as it would be for that to have been the source.
And now it's kind of back to the start, but we at least know that what she's going through
isn't life threatening. And again, this is why I've laid off drama a lot in the last 2 months, she's
incredibly stressed out and we are getting back to religion to help her through this pain.
I know you and Andy did not intend to help us in this way but you have and I am so very
grateful. In November I am taking more time off streams to be with her, and am also going to
likely get a new streaming PC to further upgrade my setup. You guys have no idea how much
your simple act of kindness has helped my family and I can never really repay you
why can't you have kids? too old?
3/11/2025 12:53 AM
The King is Feeling LUCKY!! (TheyCallMeDSP)
Medical shit, not by choice
3/11/2025 12:53 AM
The King is Feeling LUCKY!! (TheyCallMeDSP)
I of course lie like everything else
3/11/2025 12:54 AM
PPP (PoweroftheTruth)
man thats tough
3/11/2025 12:55 AM
PPP (PoweroftheTruth)
I always thought that was a deliberate choice on your part
3/11/2025 1:03 AM
The King is Feeling LUCKY!! (TheyCallMeDSP)
It was until it wasn't. You think you have control of stuff and then you don't. My wife gained a
ton of weight out of nowhere and was having crazy serious problems last year, we did a ton of
tests and found out it's a combo of her thyroid and ovarian issues. So not only can't we have
kids, she's at extremely high risk of getting cancer at anytime. And her ability to process stuff
properly is fucked so she just gains weight like nothing. She's lost a LOT, like 30 pounds just
on diet and hard work but she fluctuates and it's not fair. If she were to be on stream with me,
one week she may look skinny and the next way bigger and people would just shit on her so
we decided against it entirely

Now for my takes:
* Phil was not/is not playing 4-D chess by sending those messages last year and releasing them now. The 11 March ones are more suspect because those were sent about a week before he released them publicly, but they still fit with the overall tone + oversharing from the earlier ones.
* This is a lot of smoke but very little fire. Even if this is all true it only tells us Kat has multiple unspecified health issues which were found to be caused by thyroid + ovarian issues on a second (or possibly third, fourth, etc.) opinion. More importantly the only symptom we've seen with our own eyes is obesity.
* Getting a second opinion is not automatically code for 'this is serious' - doctors are fallible and have pet ideas just like the rest of us, and they can't always set that aside. We don't know the full timetable either so getting the second opinion might have been a result of Phil being unable to wait for tests/diagnoses that take weeks or months to diagnose and cannot be rushed, regardless of circumstances.
* What we are seeing are DMs hand selected by a pathological, medically illiterate liar to cast himself in a good light. Whether through idiocy or malice, the Kat stuff could be true or it could just as easily be BS.
* I am skeptical of the thyroid claim. Gaining/losing 30 pounds in a very short timeframe is near impossible, even for newly indoctrinated juicers/anorexics; at best this is hyperbole and there is noticeable weight cycling on a weekly basis. Meanwhile the weight gain is real but at least some of that is due to constant Doordash - in addition to huge regular orders they sometimes order what amounts to a second dinner late at night/very early in the morning.
* Assuming there are thyroid issues, I suspect that is not the whole story behind her weight gain/loss - given how much she has gained and how early he stopped posting new pics of her, medication induced weight gain could be part of the problem. We know she was almost institutionalized and psych meds can cause weight gain, you can make the connection here.
* I am also skeptical of the ovaries claim when Phil has claimed for ages that he does not want kids, and it is clear from how he acts that he wants to be a manchild the rest of his life (also incompatible with kids).
* Phil genuinely believed the Kino guys were his friends. What an idiot.
 
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I'll bet that Kat's issues are mainly just that she's a fat depressed dumb woman living with a massively neurotic manchild, and whatever real physical issues she has are probably a result of, or at least seriously exacerbated by, having a terrible diet and lifestyle.

Like she's really quite fat, to the point that Phil deserves serious flak for it because he keeps shipping in door dash and pretending nothing is wrong, obviously making no attempt to help her address her issues or collectively develop better habits, since of course so long as she's there to enable his mature adult larp then he wouldn't give a shit if she was straight up bed ridden.

No, you want to give her a pill, give her a pill. Nothing I can do dude.
 
Ultrapenguin said:
I'll bet that Kat's issues are mainly just that she's a fat depressed dumb woman living with a massively neurotic manchild, and whatever real physical issues she has are probably a result of, or at least seriously exacerbated by, having a terrible diet and lifestyle.

Like she's really quite fat, to the point that Phil deserves serious flak for it because he keeps shipping in door dash and pretending nothing is wrong, obviously making no attempt to help her address her issues or collectively develop better habits, since of course so long as she's there to enable his mature adult larp then he wouldn't give a shit if she was straight up bed ridden.

No, you want to give her a pill, give her a pill. Nothing I can do dude.
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That's more or less my thoughts as well. I do think she probably has some minor issue because the early leaks seem more reliable, so I don't think Phil would at that point in the narrative make up her doctor visits. Especially since he was pretty positive about it during that point and not sympathy farming, stating multiple times it's not life threatening and even saying they were both happy that they could afford the visit without it being a huge burden thanks to KC, which is like the opposite of why Phil usually lies about health stuff.

And I have a feeling Khet was told the usual "if you continue doing X unhealthy thing, scary thing Y might happen." In this case, Y being cancer scares or not being able to have kids. If she was really experiencing severe health issues, I don't think she'd keep clocking in for her crappy part time job that in no way relates to her having health insurance. And I think if there was actual emergencies going on, there'd be more schedule disruptions. Phil's infamous Leanna panic scare rant was the result of him actually leaving, so we know he's capable of leaving the snort fort when a medical emergency requires it...and then we also know the first thing he'll do when he gets back is spend his prestream complaining about it and revealing far too many details. And this is Phil, so him learning from his past mistakes is impossible.

I also think Phil would talk about it more if it was a real issue. IIRC, it only came up like 3 or 4 times in the leaks. Pretty sure there's more messages talking about WWE trading cards and Phil's "guntbuster" Halloween idea then discussions of Khet's health. Heck, there might even be more positive messages about her health than negative ones.
 
My money’s also on PCOS. It’d cover “ovarian issues,” possible surgery (for large cysts,) her being fat as hell (you need to REALLY control your diet with it,) and him thinking she’s infertile (not entirely true, babies for pcos women are more difficult to obtain but not impossible.) PCOS is also linked to cardio problems/strokes/Lord Beetus so that could proper scare somebody.

If it was some kind of thyroid thing there’s tons of meds for that, so not really buying the thyroid either, it’s just an easy thing to blame when your wife more than doubles in size.
 
Cyber Bowling said:
This is pure speculation on my part, but it might explain why he accidentally insults her so much. It might be his passive aggressive side lashing out. But because this is Phil, it might also be his alien way of speaking/not thinking before he speaks.
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After Kat got fat, it's not accidental. He outright has labeled Kat as a fat retard sharing unnecessary stories that he's proven he knows when not to disclose. He's ashamed of her, but the bar is low enough for Phil where being married at all is a Mature Adult accomplishment.
 
Big Brown Schlub said:
As an unapologetic Khet hater (I fucking hate lazy fat low IQ bitches like her with a passion) I have to say, I hope that DSP wasn't bullshitting about her busting his balls about making a jackass of himself on the internet. If Khet is a ball buster as the DMs imply, she got a few extra points in my book. SUFFAH PHIL
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It would also somewhat back-up this theory that she's the reason he's become an asexual freak and that "I don't care" recording from ages ago being accurately deciphered.
 
Iron Father said:
It would also somewhat back-up this theory that she's the reason he's become an asexual freak and that "I don't care" recording from ages ago being accurately deciphered.
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We know Kat is the petty ball busting type that ruminates on things from the Subaru Man leaks.

More interesting for me is that Phil started the puritan act before Leanna left... it's adding up that Phil and Kat were communicating before the infamous tweets.
 
I feel that Kat is likely going to be pushed to make efforts to lose weight in the future by her medical advisors. It's not uncommon for a woman with uterine/ovarian or hormone difficulties to stack on weight as they enter their mid-thirties, and fluctuations aren't unheard of, but a rapid and extreme weight gain in her case leads me to believe that it was a combination of factors, including psychological.

Morbid obesity doesn't just exacerbate and accelerate the pre-existing issues that may have resulted in it, but often leads to new problems. Men and women can both face additional complications as a result of struggling with being overweight, but studies show that the consequences for women can be more severe and multi-layered than men.

Not to armchair and speculate in any way here, but I hope she's being counseled and monitored effectively on getting back to a normal weight, not just for aesthetics and presentation, but for her overall quality of life. It leads me to believe that whatever meds she might be on are not the best fit; she could probably benefit from some kind of stimulant. I don't think she's happy. I get the vibe that she craved stability and Phil was the one offering it, but she's clearly struggling with motivation.
 
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