Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

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Guess Kat's weight.

  • >200 lbs.

    Votes: 22 3.5%
  • 200 lbs.-250 lbs.

    Votes: 125 20.0%
  • 250 lbs.- 300 lbs.

    Votes: 110 17.6%
  • Damn that's a huge bitch.

    Votes: 369 58.9%

  • Total voters
    626
I mean most guys making over 100k would probabably just let there girl sit at home doing etsy shop or a job they enjoy. Phil makes his girl work at a shitty grocery store. Also most couples would probably have some financial goals. Phil and ket clearly don't.
 
There are few times I will ever believe something Phil says at face value, but when he says Khet doesn't contribute to the bills, I 100% believe him.
I disagree because that begs the question of why he wants her to work more: If they really do have separate finances and she does not contribute to bills he has no reason to care so long as she isn't taking out things in his name. The two explanations I can come up with are either he wants her contributing to the bills or (and I think this is more likely) he wants her to start covering things like their shopping trips or Doordash and thinks she will not mind if her pay goes up by more than the amount he's asking her to spend.

if his ability to pay bills is ever in danger and he can't declare bankruptcy again, he'll try to get Khet to pick up the slack. but if he does that, she's gone.
There is one other thing keeping her around - Phil is about as good as she can get. Most other guys with his income could do better than Kat even if they're openly looking for a trophy wife and most other guys who are willing to settle for her are going to be making much less.

I mean most guys making over 100k would probabably just let there girl sit at home doing etsy shop or a job they enjoy. Phil makes his girl work at a shitty grocery store. Also most couples would probably have some financial goals. Phil and ket clearly don't.
I think the Fred Meyer's thing is less about fulfilling goals and more about trying to make Kat into a carbon copy of Leanna - Leanna worked part time (did it become full time before she dumped him?) at Target, therefore Replacement Leanna also has to work retail even if it his finances are in much better shape than they were in 2017 when they broke up.
 
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I disagree because that begs the question of why he wants her to work more: If they really do have separate finances and she does not contribute to bills he has no reason to care so long as she isn't taking out things in his name. The two explanations I can come up with are either he wants her contributing to the bills or (and I think this is more likely) he wants her to start covering things like their shopping trips or Doordash and thinks she will not mind if her pay goes up by more than the amount he's asking her to spend.
I don't think he wants her to work more, unless I've missed something. Unless I'm mistaken, Khet was always working at most like, 20 hours a week, it's not like she's pulling in a huge paycheck, especially compared to how much Phil himself makes. We've also seen his spending breakdown, it doesn't seem like there's any missing gaps that would be explained away with Khet's spending. Unless their Total Wine/Door Dash budget is even bigger than we expected. I suppose it's possible that she's cutting him a check for utilities or rent, but as others have pointed out, she'd likely leave the moment Phil started asking her to pay for stuff. I think Phil is too much of a pussy to ask for payments, and I don't remember him ever making Leanna pay for anything. Granted, we didn't have any leaks or anything back then to confirm that so I suppose it is possible.

Phil is absolutely awful with spending and finances in general, and while he has a huge mobile addiction, even he knows he still has to pay for his essentials (notably, what Phil considers essential), even if he's doing it paycheck to paycheck. I think there was one or two late payments on the condo from the bank leak, but I think that has more to do with the paycheck to paycheck thing/Phil not keeping track of finances as opposed to him actually running out of money. I don't think his addiction is quite at the point where he's missing his important bill payments. And again, I mean important to Phil, we know he was only making minimum payments on his debt, completely gave up on his CT condo, doesn't care about his taxes etc. But if he wasn't paying for his condo/internet/electricity/phone bill, he'd be personally inconvenienced.

This is more speculation than anything else, but I'm also in the camp that thinks Phil doesn't want Khet to work because Leanna working contributed to their breakup. And given how Phil refuses to take responsibility for anything, I wouldn't be surprised if he blames nearly all of it on that. At the very least, he wouldn't want Khet making work friends like Leanna did and having the audacity to bring people over or ask him to go hang out with people. While it doesn't seem to be a thing with Khet currently, given how paranoid Phil is about everything else, I wouldn't be surprised if he was worried about it happening.
except for the fact that he made leanna work.
Did he? I only really started to closely follow Phil around the time their relationship fell apart so I might have missed that, but I don't recall anyone ever mentioning it. I do recall him being annoyed when she was at work because that meant she couldn't cook for him, and this was before the glory days of Doordash, so he'd have to waddle to the kitchen to throw one of his frozen dinners into the microwave. And I think at one point he tried to hype up her soap shop? He was paying her phonebill for awhile after they broke up, so it might just be me assuming he was paying for everything.
 
As a bunch of people have come from the main thread to check out Jenna's suicide bait, I thought I'd pop in to reassure you all she isn't dead, and is back to ordering fast-food in her broken down van and smoking too much weed.
 
Jenna seems to have been attacked or something, this is her last story post with no caption.

Old pic? Bait? Assaulted? Can't know with this girl, but she definitely needs some help.

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Jenna seems to have been attacked or something, this is her last story post with no caption.

Old pic? Bait? Assaulted? Can't know with this girl, but she definitely needs some help.

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I think it's legit. Until a few months ago she had those awful dog turd dreadlocks. I guess she's either been beaten up by a punter or a drug dealer. She desperately needs help.

Question from a non-American: who pays for medical treatment if the patient is homeless and broke? Hospital visits can be extremely pricey if you don't have insurance, right?
 
I think it's legit. Until a few months ago she had those awful dog turd dreadlocks. I guess she's either been beaten up by a punter or a drug dealer. She desperately needs help.

Question from a non-American: who pays for medical treatment if the patient is homeless and broke? Hospital visits can be extremely pricey if you don't have insurance, right?

You can be considered a charity case in some situations.
 
Jenna seems to have been attacked or something, this is her last story post with no caption.

Old pic? Bait? Assaulted? Can't know with this girl, but she definitely needs some help.

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Jesus. This is just sad.

Asking as a non American. Would her being arrested and put in jail for an extended period (6 months+) be something that could end up saving her?

Asking 'cause in my neck of the woods this has saved a lot of people in somewhat similar situations (mental health issues). Jenna is clearly not in a place where she can help herself or even ask for real help, and I have a sinking feeling I know how this story is going to end and it's not going to end well.
 
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Jesus. This is just sad.

Asking as a non American. Would her being arrested and put in jail for an extended period (6 months+) be something that could end up saving her?

Asking 'cause in my neck of the woods this has saved a lot of people in somewhat similar situations (mental health issues). Jenna is clearly not in a place where she can help herself or even ask for real help, and I have a sinking feeling I know how this story is going to end and it's not going to end well.
Stuff like this is why we need to bring back asylums, 9/10 homeless people are too dangerous to themselves and others to be wandering around.

Being put in jail MIGHT be good for her but I doubt it will fix anything, it would just make it harder for her to do stupid shit. But if she's in California it would take a LOT to put her in jail for that long.
 
Asking as a non American. Would her being arrested and put in jail for an extended period (6 months+) be something that could end up saving her?
God no. Prisons are not set up to handle the mentally ill or junkies, even when they work as intended all they really do is keep violent people off the streets. I am not an idiot and believe criminals should be locked up, but psych treatment for crazy people or addiction treatment for junkies is almost non existent in there. Even if she got very lucky Jenna would probably just get 1 or 2 sessions a month with a hopelessly overworked therapist.

What Jenna needs would be an extended inpatient stay in a psych ward and that ain't happening because those cost a small fortune and hospitals do not have a duty to treat unless the patient is suicidal.
 
Stuff like this is why we need to bring back asylums, 9/10 homeless people are too dangerous to themselves and others to be wandering around.

Being put in jail MIGHT be good for her but I doubt it will fix anything, it would just make it harder for her to do stupid shit. But if she's in California it would take a LOT to put her in jail for that long.
Again not knowing how this shit is done in the US.

What I was thinking/hoping was that the DoC could get her diagnosed and put on whatever medication she needs. That is what they do here where I'm from, and I know that the US is clearly different but I was hoping that there might just be something/someone that could step in.

Jenna is clearly not in a situation/headspace where she can look after herself. And at this point her story is no longer something to point and laugh at, it really haven't been in a while, but just plain sad.

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@twattycake and @Brotherman Bill
Thanks for educating. So this is really going to end just as pathetic and sadly as it looks like it's gonna. Her story is the only vortex related/adjacent that makes me legit sad and wishing would have a different outcome than what everything point towards.

When Phil strokes out on stream, or more unlikely looses everything I'll feel nothing but amusement. But when Jenna dies I think I might actually be a bit sad because this could have been either prevented or her situation at least made more dignified.
 
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Soo i happen to run across jennas ads and omg shes disgusting. She has break out and spots all over her body. She’s literally a junkie and went crazy. She has nasty bruises all over her body. She looks nothing like in her social media. Being in her presence makes you wanna gag and turns you off like a mofo. Shes UGLY as PHUQ and hideous.
 
Jenna was dragged into a car, raped and battered by a stranger.

This poor woman needs help. It genuinely disgusts me Jenna is living like this while her pig brother in law is pissing away thousands on booze and mobile games.

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What I was thinking/hoping was that the DoC could get her diagnosed and put on whatever medication she needs. That is what they do here where I'm from, and I know that the US is clearly different but I was hoping that there might just be something/someone that could step in.
I can't think of a scenario where she gets the medication and stays on it long-term: Prison medical services are not going to help because they provide the absolute bare minimum and may only have a general practitioner instead of a psychiatrist. Psych wards on the other hand would have trouble getting her to take her medication and not discharge herself against doctor's orders.

Jenna is clearly not in a situation/headspace where she can look after herself. And at this point her story is no longer something to point and laugh at, it really haven't been in a while, but just plain sad.
You're right but nobody cares enough to have her declared mentally unfit (which would be a prerequisite to holding her long-term over her own objections with or without forcible medication). Doctors get pressured by their hospitals to NOT commit to long-term care of a patient who obviously cannot pay and I am not even sure she qualifies for being declared insane. If you don't believe me, CWC has believed for years now that he is possessed by Sonichu (and now believes he is the second coming of Christ after being arrested) but the State of Virginia still hasn't thrown him in a looney bin.
 
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