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[ye's Official KF Burner]

Not saying I disagree, but what is our best evidence here? I have to imagine that the electors realized this would be like the easiest smoking gun and the first thing to avoid if the allegations were serious

He has some really bad scandals in his closet. Really interesting to see the group not give much of a fuck about that, or maybe they were unaware during the sequestration.

1. Allegations from Peru - Failure to act on abuse claims as Bishop of Chiclayo
HuffPost ES: Accusations against Prevost for covering up sexual abuse in Peru
Prevost is accused of not initiating canonical investigations into abuse allegations and pressuring victims or advocates to stay silent. Journalist Pedro Salinas contested these claims as "absolutely false."

2. Chicago Case - Allowed accused priest to live near a school
The Pillar: Concerns about Prevost’s decisions in Chicago abuse case
As Provincial Superior in 2000, Prevost permitted Fr. James Ray—credibly accused of abuse—to live at a friary near a Catholic school, raising safety concerns.


3. SNAP Complaint - Ongoing accountability questions
Crux Now: SNAP files complaint against Prevost for inadequate oversight
Survivors’ group SNAP has criticized Prevost’s failure to act in both Chicago and Peru, accusing him of endangering children and violating Church guidelines.

 

[Großmann]

It's been over for something like 70 years (in reality a lot longer, but about 70 from the tradcath perspective).

Conservative Catholics absolutely will not allow themselves to see the forest for the trees. They'll tie themselves into knots to justify how Pope Climate-Sins Pachamama-Gay-Blessing-But-Not-Actually-Gay-Blessing-Don't-Worry-Guys XVCMLIIIII technically didn't violate canon 14,926,602,745,592 (which you'd need to prove in a court of law to show that he's a public apostate) by gassing up Buddhists as having "precious spiritual treasures".

They just care that he's not "woke" in a Prager U sense, but if he is don't worry because it's not Ex Cathedra (as though infallibility and defection were the same question).

It's the Qanon religion, and I say this as someone who really likes a lot of Catholics.

Post like this is why I was against featuring the thread. I welcome debate, but retards looking to take shits on the floor of a featured thread are a blight.

 

[ye's Official KF Burner]

Post like this is why I was against featuring the thread. I welcome debate, but retards looking to take shits on the floor of a featured thread are a blight.

Hey, as a consummate professional thread tourist I have been doing my best to think about what I post and share only important information and discussion here. #NotAllTourists

 

[insensitive]

Post like this is why I was against featuring the thread. I welcome debate, but retards looking to take shits on the floor of a featured thread are a blight.

Yeah because you not featuring it was going to keep people from discussing the new pope negatively, dumbass

Ill take my thread ban now, nigger.

 

[ANightOwl]

based on his Papal name I'm hoping he likes Lou Malnatis.

So do I so, I’m hoping that’s the answer.

 

[California Newt]

I was going to insult you but instead I want you to know that if no one else loves you, God does. Despite your idiocy.

Insults are all you have. There's no way to defend Roman Catholicism unless you're already in the crab-trap.

opening a dialogue with the Orthodox Patriarchates in mending the schism (this almost happened in the 2010s).

They could start by recognizing that Papal Infallibility is obviously not true, considering that Honorius was anathematized by an Ecumenical Council for Monothelitism. They could also explain how Pope Leo III erecting the Nicene Creed without the filioque on silver tablets outside the crypt of St. Peter's Basilica with the inscription "For love and defense of the Orthodox Faith" wasn't "Ex Cathedra".

They could also admit that Vatican 1 was an obvious political response to the political changes and revolutions of the 19th century (consolidating what power they still had), just as Vatican II coincided with the Vatican's realignment with Western powers after WWII (which is why post Vatican II Catholicism is just a giant NGO crab-walking into oblivion).

He has some really bad scandals in his closet. Really interesting to see the group not give much of a fuck about that, or maybe they were unaware during the sequestration.

If you're aware, they were aware.

Post like this is why I was against featuring the thread. I welcome debate, but retards looking to take shits on the floor of a featured thread are a blight.

If you welcome debate, then you can respond to this post and the few I've linked to regarding Nostra Aetate.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

This is the first thing I've seen that has made me actually concerned, but again need to wait and see

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Good. Vance is a weirdo and an awful Catholic.

Not hyped that it's an American Pope, especially in times like these.
Still, Leo 14 seems like a genuinely nice dude, very humble and mild manered, not at all like the common American boor. Maybe that's what America needs right now the most. A global example of humility and patience.

 

[Hack for crack]

If you're aware, they were aware.

Doubt. He was a darkhorse. I don't think all the Cardinals knew the full history of all brothers.

2. Chicago Case - Allowed accused priest to live near a school

This is the really bad one.

 

[Großmann]

Hey, as a consummate professional thread tourist I have been doing my best to think about what I post and share only important information and discussion here. #NotAllTourists

Look, we’ve all been there. I sometimes go to feature threads and toss shit around and gather up my well-earned dumb and MATI stickers.

Yeah because you not featuring it was going to keep people from discussing the new pope negatively, dumbass

Ill take my thread ban now, nigger.

It’s one thing if you show up and outline your issues with Leo XIV, but it’s another thing to start throwing shit at Catholics at large and insisting we enlist in your personal culture war army. I mean, look at this:

There's no way to defend Roman Catholicism unless you're already in the crab-trap.

California Newt is not interested in a discussion. He wants to shit on the floor and piss people off. We’ve had this episode play out in the thread before and it never is productive.

 

[Justice Tony]

This is the really bad one.

No it's not. I choose not to believe the Protestant propaganda.

 

[ye's Official KF Burner]

This is the really bad one.

It just reads as incompetency combined with trying to suppress the information.

He let it happen and then tried to bury it once people started figuring it out.

 

[California Newt]

California Newt is not interested in a discussion.

We'll never know, because you'll never respond to any actual points that I'm making. It sounds like you're the one who doesn't want a discussion. Pointing out that the ecumenist post Vatican II Popes are obvious apostates is not "culture war".

 

[California Newt]

Doubt. He was a darkhorse. I don't think all the Cardinals knew the full history of all brothers.

Exactly how dumb are you accusing the Cardinals of being if you're saying they don't do any kind of background check whatsoever? I'm not trying to be hostile there; it just seems really unbelievable that that'd be the case.

No it's not. I choose not to believe the Protestant propaganda.

lmao

Edit: didn't meant to double-post; assumed the thread was faster

 

[Hack for crack]

This is the really bad one.

I read it was IN the school grounds, not just near....

 

[Justice Tony]

lmao

I am not kidding. While yes, there was sadly some abuse a lot of the cases never happened and were cooked up by gay Protestants to discredit the Church in order to legalize abortion up until birth and give more money to Israel.

 

[Hack for crack]

Exactly how dumb are you accusing the Cardinals of being if you're saying they don't do any kind of background check whatsoever?

Bruh. They don't have the ability to do research while inside. I do not think a hundred old men knew the deep history of every single person, most likely just the leading figures.

 

[California Newt]

Bruh. They don't have the ability to do research while inside. I do not think a hundred old men knew the deep history of every single person, most likely just the leading figures.

If it's realistically possible that the guy's name could be thrown around for consideration to the point that he gets elected Pope without people knowing about this, then that's pretty wild. Heck of a system.

 

[insensitive]

Good. Vance is a weirdo and an awful Catholic.

Sorry he doesn't let more Catholics into the U.S. Pedro.

Still, Leo 14 seems like a genuinely nice dude, very humble and mild manered, not at all like the common American boor. Maybe that's what America needs right now the most. A global example of humility and patience.

I am humbly and patiently waiting for this pope to also die from Hitler-particle exposure al la America's next Presidente

 

[Local Farmer]

Good. Vance is a weirdo and an awful Catholic.

Not hyped that it's an American Pope, especially in times like these.
Still, Leo 14 seems like a genuinely nice dude, very humble and mild manered, not at all like the common American boor. Maybe that's what America needs right now the most. A global example of humility and patience.

Remember Vance hasn’t even baptized his own children to keep his Pagan wife happy

 

[Nothing Is Written]

Pointing out that the ecumenist post Vatican II Popes are obvious apostates is not "culture war".

That's a bold charge. Steel man your own argument, as you've stated in my quote, or I won't bother engaging with you.