🎨 Artcow Ken Penders - Former Archie Sonic Comic Writer/Artist

So, according to the either the director or one of writers, Knuckles's father in the Sonic 2 movie is supposed to be Pachacamac. The Echidna tribe leader from Sonic Adventure. So, yeah. Knuckles's movie dad isn't even supposed to be Penders's stupid Sonic OC.
 
So, according to the either the director or one of writers, Knuckles's father in the Sonic 2 movie is supposed to be Pachacamac. The Echidna tribe leader from Sonic Adventure. So, yeah. Knuckles's movie dad isn't even supposed to be Penders's stupid Sonic OC.
god I hope that idiot ignores this and sues anyway, see what sega thinks about him trying to lay more claim to game stuff
 
god I hope that idiot ignores this and sues anyway, see what sega thinks about him trying to lay more claim to game stuff
Oh, he most definitely will. Penders has infamously said that he believes the Echidna Tribe from Sonic Adventure was a direct copy of what he had done in the Archie books. So he certainly will still feel entitled to a lawsuit.
 
Ken really is an alternate version of Chris if he got a job and instead of Sonic focused his autism on Knuckles
 
Oh, he most definitely will. Penders has infamously said that he believes the Echidna Tribe from Sonic Adventure was a direct copy of what he had done in the Archie books. So he certainly will still feel entitled to a lawsuit.
He said specifically that he wants a check, so he's already feeling entitled to it.

After he gets BTFO in court, maybe Sega will start feeling bold enough to use some of the Sonic 3 Michael Jackson ditties in the next movie.
 
Even more hilarious, Locke went through a complete redesign in the comics to… look like the Knuckles clan. His tribal threads were a reference to Sega canon, Ken’s ”original” design of Locke was of an echidna in a white bathrobe.

To be fair, I never understood Ken making Enerjak some Egyptian god, and Sega making the echidnas Mesoamerican. I thought they’d make a nod towards a more Aboriginal tribal theme, considering their real life origin. Athair being in rasta beads will always be my favorite design, though. I wish Sega could reclaim him. Athair was in Fleetway, too.

Haven’t seen the movie yet, but I’m liking these echidnas. Autism over.
 
People just keep finding more and info on this.
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Can I just say (not having looked at this topic before now) that this guy looks exactly as I had envisioned?
 
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Oh, he most definitely will. Penders has infamously said that he believes the Echidna Tribe from Sonic Adventure was a direct copy of what he had done in the Archie books. So he certainly will still feel entitled to a lawsuit.
Ken penders time and time again proved to be a duplicitous fucking lying scumbag fucker. The echhidna tribe shit was set up in sonic 3 and then expanded upon in adventure. He blatantly used adventure and Adventure 2 as inspiration for shit he added to the archie ones, and thereason for his whole lawsuit years ago was the fact a game took inspiration from the comics without being the same thing as them, something he blatantly did himself several times with the games and the licensed comics he wasn't even supposed to own the characters for as they were all fucking SEGA owned till the paperwork "mysteriously" vanished when they went to find it after he got the lawsuit going. Since thenn, he's begun to claim the bioware created characters he started the lawsuit over are actually his own creations as well. It's fucking greed and ego fueled insanity.

To be fair, I never understood Ken making Enerjak some Egyptian god, and Sega making the echidnas Mesoamerican. I thought they’d make a nod towards a more Aboriginal tribal theme, considering their real life origin. Athair being in rasta beads will always be my favorite design, though. I wish Sega could reclaim him. Athair was in Fleetway, too.
Sandopolis Zone on angel island in 3 and the egyptian pyramid eggman set up base inside in adventure 2 were both egyptian themed echnidna associated ruins. It's kinda a weird implication running through the sonic games that the echidnas were basically one of those "hyper advanced lost societies that aided a hand in others development" or some shit like that. Enerjak being egyptian themed isn't even stemmed from an original concept but once more a derivative and warping of a pre-existing concept from the games.
 
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I wonder if Penders would be so emboldened had the Archie comic not been the primary source of Sonic lore from 1995-1999, when Sega was too busy shitting the bed with the Saturn and essentially putting the core Sonic franchise on pause between the release of Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic Adventure. I’m sure that led a bunch of kids to see that as the true canon for a few years and allowed Penders to feel some unearned ownership over the franchise. Also, as much as we would love to see a court battle, it wouldn’t shock me if Paramount just gave him some token sum to have him shut the fuck up
 
Sandopolis Zone on angel island in 3 and the egyptan pyramid eggman set up base inside in adventure 2 were both egyptian themed echnidna associated ruins. It's kinda a weird implication running through the sonic games that the echidnas were basically one of those "hyper advanced lost societies that aided a hand in others development" or some shit like that. Enerjak being egyptian themed isn't even stemmed from an original concept but once more a derivative and warping of a pre-existing concept from the games.
You’re absolutely correct. Sorry, I brainfarted on Sandopolis and while I never played SA2, I’m familiar with the lore on it. I agree that regardless of canon, the echidnas are, across the board, the most advanced civilization of all of the animals, and they did something to fuck it all up. Marble Garden and Launch Base were clearly remnants of that same civilization. Sega was trying to do the world pyramid/ziggurat connection, with the echidnas, not aliens, being the master race that invented it all I ‘spose.

Hidden Palace always smacked of the more positive, and mystical, aspects of the echidnas, and maybe it was their last construction before whatever happened, happened. Basically their “Help us, Obi-Wan Kenobi!”, but a prophetic one literally set in stone… obviously, with Sonic already in effigy.

To get back to the subject of this thread, everything Ken Penders did was derivative, and he can’t handle facing that fact. This is coming from someone who loved the Knuckles comic as a kid. I loved politics and religion, and the world building aspect of a great race. All Ken did was steal from every source he could, filled in the blanks left by Sega, and then made all of the echidnas assholes, with Knuckles having a shit dad, a shit family, and a shit job. Projecting much, Ken?
 
All Ken did was steal from every source he could, filled in the blanks left by Sega, and then made all of the echidnas assholes, with Knuckles having a shit dad, a shit family, and a shit job. Projecting much, Ken?
It becomes even funnier when Sonic adventure reveals the reason the echidnas got fucking pretty much wiped out was because their leaders and armies were genuinely shit people that tried stealing the emeralds from the shrine to use them as a means of fueling weapons of war and conquest, despite warnings about doing that sort of shit. They end up basically setting fire to the area and trampling the little cute chao things that just kind of live in the area which pisses off chaos, who if I remember right is stated somewhere in a manual or some shit is basically a chao that got mutated into a fucking nightmarish water creature from sitting around the emerald's energies for god only knows how long. Chaos fucking massacres a shitload of echidnas offscreen and then the survivors, one of which being a girl that befriended the fucking water demon before all this went down, have to seal him inside the master emerald to make it stop fucking killing people because he's just so fucking pissed at everything.

I don't remember penders claiming sonic adventure stole from him but he might have in recent years and I missed it.

It's kind of a running theme in these games of "someone uses emeralds for selfish/destructive things and it bites them in the ass" It's not just tied to the emeralds either, weirdly but any artifact of power. in Sonic CD Robotnik uses the fucking time stones to turn little planet into a base for himself, but if he's left with them instead of sonic getting them or destroying the generators the place quickly turns into a run down and uninhabitable barren hellscape with funky music blaring in the background 24/7. If the shit gets thwarted the future still seems to have robotnik's buildings and shit but it's a lot more in line with the kind of "cool future" place he probably intended on making and infinitely less ai generated ghetto urban sprawl hell planet.
 
I didn’t play the games past Saturn. Shit, I’ve missed a lot. I’d like to see the echidnas not be assholes sometime.

Poor Knuckles.
 
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