Lolcow KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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mumbles to himself while beating off, but this time exclaiming he would, in fact like to rape the young Of Age woman he's viewing.
If that was true, it would be all over reddit in video or audio form. No second hand rumor. When it comes to these rape or chomo allegations, I believe nothing until the video/audio comes out. Everything else is just assumed to be shit stirring.
 
Josh thinks about the danger for a moment then moves on. There are 5 stages to this:

Stage 1. The Confrontation. This is where Josh has been given the what-for by a reasonable competent adult/authority figure. Example: Term'd Lease, Dad Debit Card, Cranky Neighbors
Stage 2. The Clarity. This is where Josh explains how he understands why what he did was not necessarily wrong but how it may be perceived as such. Example: painting wands, overdrafts
Stage 3. The Justification. This is a [typically drunk] rant on how he's just doing HIM, doing his BEST and if THAT's SO WRONG [You]|[Face]|[Stream]-toobz, then he doesn't wanna be right
Stage 4. The What-If. This is not always present in the cycle, but it's typical where he exaggerates what happened during Stage 1 and how he very toughly/bad-assly would have handled it
Stage 5. The Blow-Off. This comes in a couple forms, typically either him the next day mentioning/repeating shut due to autism and being nonchalant about it, almost dismissive and/or someone in a comment/text/live-chat brings back up what should be a fresh/important subject on a typical person' s mind and he kind of shrugs it off, calmly repeating some talking points from Stage 3.
Beautiful summary of the Cobra cycle. I always thought the eviction saga nicely demonstrated his stages of mental gymnastics as to why nothing is ever his fault, and if it is it doesn't matter, and if it does "it is what it is".

 
I wanted to offer my two cents on his recent ramblings about rape.

I think the simplest explanation is the right one: a troll texted him implying Josh will eventually rape someone, which really got to him because he knows someone that was raped. His reaction to the trolling just invited more trolling, resulting in a bigger reaction from him, which leads to more trolling, more reactions, and it just keeps snowballing because he won't shut up about it.

I reached this conclusion by rewatching his videos from the past couple weeks. I'm sharing my notes below because it helps to see how things have snowballed to where they are today. Thank you to @Ellesse_warrior and everyone else who archives and provides timestamps. Your work made this task much easier.

There are also a couple explanations that have gained traction on his subreddit, and neither sit quite right with me. They are:
1. He has committed statutory rape by having sex with a minor and is putting forth an "anti-rape" persona now as a preemptive defense against impending allegations.
2. While not a rapist, he is having a psychotic break with reality, as seen in his mumbles and whispers, and he will rape eventually.

My thoughts on those explanations:
1. I don't think he had sex with a minor, because if he had sex he would tell everyone about it. I do think he's gullible and horny enough to get in a "she said she was 18" situation, but he's such a fucking mess at this point I couldn't see any young woman wanting a piece of that.
2. And I don't think he's having a psychotic break. The mumbles and whispers are due to the recent influx of booze and CBD bud (aka spice). His shitty mood as he approaches 30 also contributes. I think there's also purposeful attention seeking behavior on his part, as he feels like shit and wants to be comforted, and the trolling is something that can get him sympathy.

March 7 I'm sorry
Deleted stream (but archived, see link below). Maybe the original mention of sacrificing sex to end rape.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8492722
17:05: "Here's where I'm frustrated on certain things. I've been told my entire life by family 'Oh Josh, you're such a handsome young man.' Do you think I feel handsome when I get rejected by every chick I like? Even ones that I have everything in common with? No! I don't feel so handsome. I feel like an ugly, worthless, piece of shit. And that's mainly because--hey! Like any other average adult heterosexual, I want some goddam pussy! Would be nice! But, at this point, all I can do is wait patiently, gnomesayin'? You know, that's just how I feel. Like, if I could sacrifice sex the rest of my life to end rape I totally would do it, in all forms. That's how much I hate rapists."

March 11 night video 48:48
Where he first mentions the trolls calling him "disgusting things."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf876TdaitU&t=2s
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8516203
19:42: At his desk, close enough to use the computer, he interrupts what he's saying in reaction to a video by staring at the screen silently for a bit and saying "I feel like if you want true equality... Seriously wish my trolls the best of luck with their [sic] life. It's sad. I feel bad for them."
21:47: "You know when the troll start calling you fucking disgusting things, you throw it back in their face and go 'Well if that's how you feel about life, if you're doing that shit, yuck dude. You need to get help if that's how you think. Nobody--just don't respond to it and block it because people are fucking disgusting yo."
32:20: Talks about getting shit for white knighting on Facebook because he said he would give up sex for life if it meant there would be no more rape.
33:22: "There are some things in this world that are so vile and disgusting I don't even want to mention it, gnomesayin'?"

March 12 chilln 8:25
Chaturbate age verification. Troll comments are disgusting. Made him lose his appetite for the pizza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwVN1OkvBv0
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8526841
1:05 "I don't care if you saved the last video. I straight up said that I hate chomos in the last video and there ain't nothing wrong with that. Moving on."
5:00 Out of nowhere: "You know how Chaturbate works? You cannot broadcast on there unless you provide a valid ID. And they check that shit. They do. They're very thorough on that. That's how you know the chicks on Chaturbate are definitely old enough.
6:00 Out of nowhere: "You can't let comments like that piss you off, because you know, you know? But uh the thought of them calling me that is so fucking disgusting I'm losing my appetite. I would have had room for another slice [of pizza] but this is ridiculous Youtube."
7:40 "Like my trolls are next level assholes and I wish they'd just leave me the fuck alone. But that's never going to happen to some extent so you just have to ignore it, and eventually they'll get tired and go away. Responding to it is only going to make them do it more."

March 12 chillin 1:45:01
Troll comments are so vile he won't repeat them. Discussed what the trolls are saying to him with his Discord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npabgk4oT-I
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8526841
7:00: Complaining about the texts he received. "Some of those comments are so fucking vile, I'm not gonna repeat what they said. Like, it was that disgusting. Just thinking about it right now is making my stomach churn, dude."
8:20: "You know and I talked to my Discord--my fans on Discord, and they're like 'You know what, Cobra. Ignore the trolls, man. Then everyone knows Cobra hates rape. Just ignore them and keep doing your thing.'"
14:20 "Though we can't apparently say 'I hate rapists, period.' without people taking it as you're virtue signaling for something."

March 13 sushi pigs feet pizza
CBD bud is in town. Satanic 11 Rules of Earth random mentions. Made a Facebook post about sacrificing sex to end rape. Would murder rapists and pedos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB7VP9yueJU
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8533857
7:40 a man's morals - protect women and children
11:10 Josh says "seriously fuck sick fucks" and says he would kill child molesters and rapists if he could get away with it
13:00 the only reason why we don't hurt 'the sick fucks' is because it's illegal
15:00 rapists should get the death penalty
17:25 CBD bud in town, always nice
18:00 Josh talks about his Facebook post about never having sex again to end rape
24:49 would rather chop his dick off then rape someone
25:49 would rather shoot pedos instead a registry

March 15 chillin 41:53
CBD, root beer, and Fuck Rape song. Inebriated attention seeking mumbles. Ends stream to jerk it on Chaturbate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4zjLE594E
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8549178
32:28: "Buuurrrppp! Excuse me. I've been smoking some CBD cannabis and drinking some root beer, and that's what the CBD cannabis tells me, that I hate rapists with a passion. And that's why I'm making the song 'Fuck Rape' the last--very very best of the last song."
33:20: "I do believe I posted something on Facebook that says I would sacrifice the rest of my life--the rest of my sex life--I would sacrifice the rest of my sex life to end rape altogether in all forms."
34:10: Mumbles something under his breath about murder being illegal "and that's why I don't do it."
35:00: Mumbles and whispering about how he hates rape.
38:48: Whispering about rape. Ends the stream by saying he's going to rub one out to some hot chicks on Chaturbate.

March 15 chillin 19:45
Weed brownie, CBD, and root beer. Inebriated attention seeking mumbles. Hates rapists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJXvH30ps6s
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8548701
1:00: "Fuck rapists. That was a good wank session to Chaturbate."
4:00: Stops to say that he stopped his last stream to go onto Chaturbate to have a wank session. Goes on a whole rant about this and keeps mumbling under his breath.
6:00: Sometimes when you drink a lot of alcohol and eat a weed brownie you find the truth and the truth is that he hates rapists.
9:27: The CBD and root beers tell him that he hates rapists. He can jack off to hot of age chicks on Chaturbate the rest of his life, he doesn’t care.
16:10: Mumbling about trolls and rapists again. Mumbling and twitching under his breath and shaking while listening to his recording.

March 15 chillin 5:14
His jerkin' broadcast today was "stolen" by trolls. Talks about his exhibitionist kink. He'll do what he wants, trolls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2HgPPF4Wg
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kingcobrajfs-josh-saunders.22713/post-8548701
2:27 "I can't control who fucking steals my content when I'm on Chaturbate." Reference to his jerk off broadcasts being found by trolls.
3:27 "So if you see me on Chaturbate broadcasting some hot chick, pretty much ignore it. That's for my adult fans only, and for me personally. Because when the chaturbate model is like 'Hey, I see Cobra broadcasting to me, nice.' I'm like yeeeaaahhh...[mumbles about her ending his dry spell] So yeah, there's a little bit of kinkiness to it."
 
No one’s account is “purged.” You’re coming off as pretty fucking autistic yourself here.

This is correct. He said it kept getting “rejected” and that he had to redo it — but like most things that require effort, he just abandoned it instead of trying to take another picture.
...He deleted all the posts he made from his account, I would consider that purging. You shouldn't call people names. I think the lady doth protest too much...
 
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Here's Kobes' streams from yesterday:
Start:
Talking about the song he's working on for his album. Just 2 more songs until he's finished his album. Live and vanity coming in nicely toobs.
2:20:
It's nearly 10pm and he's not trying to get a noise complaint so too late to work on his album.
3:38:
Apologises for his album taking so long and says it will be done in the next couple of days.
5:05:
Going to check and see if he got his Stimulus check tomorrow.
7:05:
Says he'll go to sleep when he feels like it as long as he keeps the noise down.
8:00:
Going to buy pipe tobacco if he gets his Stimulus check. Hasn't checked his po box. Says he'll check it when he can.
9:47:
Says he'll finish the wands once the weather clears up and he finishes his album. Bans trolls. "You're not even the real me get hidden from my channel."

Start:
Doing a video response to a Terrence pop video. Drinking mountain dew. Says he supports fat people's rights. Mentions he's gained weight.
2:00:
Album update. Doesn't need any more alcohol today. Explains a cherry dessert drink combination. Talking about soda pop.
4:20:
Was binge watching animation domination today because the weather is bad.
5:05:
Fuck fat shaming. Double standards gender relations.
7:10:
Quotes his body shaaaaaming line.
8:55:
KingSoapraJFS
10:38:
Starts the video.
13:27:
Double standards women can reject men for being too fat. Richard Simmons impression. Men lowering their standards Doesn't help anything.
16:30:
Reverse psychology on drunk women at a bar scenario. Of age drinks.
20:00:
Back to the video. Reads what's written on the screen. Rant about online dating.
22:50:
Talking about creepy men. Back to the video.
24:39:
Advice on how not to be creepy while online dating. Fart mistress scenario. Fart smells like empowerment. Gender relations.
27:50:
Talking about some hot of age youtuber he follows . He gets a bit creepy with it.
30:00:
Parrots what's said in the video. Says he paved the road for sleep streams. Scenario of simps listening to women bitch all the time because dating = simping.
33:10:
Imagine if people watched Kobes sleep on stream. Literally happened already. White knighting Amoroth.
35:52:
Talks about his cock holster valentines day stream. Person who flagged his video was clearly jealous of the size of Kobes' cobra. YouTube are hypocrites because women can do naked yoga.
39:00:
Back to the video.
40:24:
White knighting Tara Babcock. Gets a knock on the door but Ignores it.
42:00:
Reads what's written on the screen. Women should stop calling themselves bitches. Women should have standards. Guys aren't allowed to have standards and that's bad. Bar scenario of a fat girl called Cheryl who won't give a creepy obese man called Chad a chance.
46:50:
Back to the video. Nods along with what's said in the video about ugly women with high standards.
49:37:
Reads what's written on the screen. All dating preferences are shallow but that's okay because that's just how humans are.
50:51:
Puts his dog collar on and argues that preferences can't be racist or sexist. Back to the video.
54:00:
Double standards in online dating. Women are more shallow than men but it doesn't fit the narrative. Back to the video.
55:43:
Fat people used to be unattractive by societies standards. Now all women have to do is show up no matter what they look like. Double standards gender relations.
57:54:
Scenario of a super hot of age goth chick hitting on him even though he's creepy. Says he gets lots of of age hot chicks approaching him all the time. Back to the video.
1:01:00:
Reads what's written on the screen. Personality is more important. Being attractive is a bonus. Kobes wouldn't be interested in a super hot of age goth chicken who is boring.
1:03:30:
Disagrees with what was said in the video. Back to watching the video.
1:04:22:
Reads texts.
1:05:10:
Reads what's written on the screen. He's tired of people telling him he shouldn't have standards. People shouldn't get pissed off for being rejected. Back to the video.
1:07:25:
Kobes disagrees with what's said in the video. Back to the video. Double standards rant.
1:15:44:
Reads what's written on the screen. Rant about rape. Shills his anti rape t-shirt. Back to the video.
1:20:40:
Reads what's written on the screen. Fat women should be allowed to have standards turns into a rant about fat people should be allowed to have standards. Sex is a perk. It's only a small part of companionship. Pussy eating skills.
1:28:20:
Back to the video. Rant about how all women have to do is be of age, consent and show up. Women are bitches to each other. Wedding ring sperging.
1:39:40:
Sex is gross rant.
1:40:20:
Reminiscing about Stephanie. Back to the video.
1:46:00:
Gender relations Double standards
1:47:00:
Women can just change their boob size whenever they want
1:47:57:
Back to the video. Kobes disagrees with what's been said in the video.
1:50:30:
Single dads get no support rant. Back to the video.
1:54:50:
Kobes is tired of everything being men's fault. Back to the video.
1:57:00:
Kobes complaining about being single. Single parents dating website because Single parents should just date other Single parents. Back to the video.
2:01:00:
Kobes disagrees with what's said in the video. He is starting to think sex is gross.
2:05:00:
Old man whose wife died and he still sniffs her panties scenario.

Start:
Doing some stand up because we're all stuck in a pandemic.
1:29:
Online dating joke.
2:30:
Meeting a girl with inherited tupperware containers.
3:40:
Dating profiles. Celebrity online dating because he is a Celebrity.
4:58:
Serial killer online dating. Back to weird tupperware girl scenario and a married couple scenario which is an unfunny version of a Bill Burr bit.
7:18:
Tupperware containers jokes.
10:10:
Catfishing.
11:15:
Shills his anti rape shirt
12:50:
Body hair. Pandemic Bush.
14:13:
Vaccines cause autism.
15:45:
Crazy bitches on tinder. Tupperware girl again.
17:00:
Tupperware containers. Seriously did someone give him spaghetti in a Tupperware container yesterday? He is obsessing.
20:00:
Ice-scream
20:47:
Tupperware container thieves.
22:45:
Kool aid. Lucky charms.
25:50:
UK coof. Coof jokes.
28:20:
Self stirring coffee mugs and vape pens. Pretty sure these are unfunny versions of someone else's jokes. The self stirring coffee mug definitely is.
As a true and honest tayto nig, Lucky charms dude isn't offensive. Happy Paddy's day stinky Boglims!

Here's the start of the February 2016 archives:
Marlboro special blend review 2016-02-01

Josh smokes a ciggy and says if you smoke you should try it. He talks about a friend called Shaggy getting drunk on Everclear and they ask Josh if he can crash at his apartment. In exchange for Shaggy crashing on Josh's sofa, they gave him the bottle of Everclear. Josh mentions that he will be getting the tattoo of his weed cobra on his forearm on the 3rd.

Vocal Covers 2016-02-01

Josh opened a bag of chips and thinks it looked like a cobra. Josh talks about blocking trolls and YouTube does nothing. Josh says he has 2k subscribers and that he thinks its the same person trolling him and photoshopping his head onto things. A troll made an account pretending to be his mom and telling him not to forget his anal wart cream. 8:00 Josh wouldn't quit smoking for 1 million subscribers. 11:50 Josh got into a comment war supporting Bernie Sanders in a Young Turks videos. Josh talks about legalising weed. 15:50 josh mixes Everclear and Crown Royal. 18:45 Josh lights his shot on fire (good visual). 21:30 Josh would get a king cobra as a pet and would get it high. 29:00 talking about his amazing sexy vocals and straight after trikatiria. 30:25 Hey there Delilah story and then sings it right after. Josh sings Green day afterwards 'sounds exactly like Greenday'. 51:17 Josh makes fun of Katelyn Jenner and said he would rather fuck a corpse. 53:00 Josh takes a shot and almost pukes in the garbage. 56:30 Josh sings Slipknot snuff and uses his shot glass as a microphone. Josh sings in the end and a bunch of other songs.

Im a hypocrite and I don't care 2016-02-02

Josh makes a video addressing making a joke about Nazis/Jews. Josh talks about legalising weed. Josh repeats the Jewish/Nazi joke and his trikateria again. 5:00 Josh talks about trolls harassing him about having a goat because Josh said "people are trying to get my goat" and trolls began trolling him saying he has a goat. Josh watches a video about hypocrisy. 14:54 back to trolls in the comments about the pet goat and anal wart cream. 17:55 Josh mentions Bailey and that he's never met her and he's giving Scotty the benefit of the doubt. Scotty used to go to high school with Bailey and she likes everything Josh likes. 20:00 Josh makes holocaust jokes and says that South Park does it all the time so it's ok. 23:36 hairs on his head are starting to grow back, he's seen goths with half their heads shaved. Josh talks about weed and drugs for a while. 34:41 top of his hair looks like shit but it will grow back. Josh routes through his ciggy buts. 35:52 Josh doesn't want to make a video about his religion because people would make fun of it and call it stupid. 39:17 people call him Harry Potter when they find out he practices magic. He talks about magic and killing trolls with magic. 41:53 Josh chooses to focus on the hair he hasn't picked out instead of the ones he has. 44:09 Josh talks about cheating on Stephanie and that if he wouldn't have said anything he would have gotten away with it. 47:20 Josh invites his trolls to screenshot his balding spots and make fun of him. 51:00 Josh's biggest regret was cheating on Stephanie. 52:26 the girl Josh cheated on was a serial cheater, Josh thinks maybe he's a stud that makes women cheat on their boyfriends. 55:47 Josh thinks society causes people to cheat. 57:25 Josh thinks he deserves to be single for a while because he thought his last fling was too fat and he told her that he was only using her for sex and told her to her face. 59:26 she called Josh's Cradle of Filth 'screamo' and so she deserved to be heart broken. 1:04:20 Josh talks about taking Stephanie out for dinner and be a gentleman. 1:11:00 Josh tried warning his buddy that he wasn't into this girl but still went along with it anyway. 1:11:20 Josh shows off the top of his head. 1:14:00 Josh doesn't care about what people say about his trikateria. 1:16:40 Josh chooses to focus on his long hair.

Drink combo 2016-02-03

Josh mixes Four Loco watermelon, red wine, peppermint schnapps with everclear | 4:00 Josh shows off his arm that's bandaged because he got his new tat | 4:50 Josh checks to see if getting his arm tatted messed up his guitar playing | 11:50 Josh can't find his nail clippers so he does the next best thing, chews them off | 18:45 after trimming his nails Josh goes back to noodling on guitar. | 27:30 Josh thinks trimming his nails made his guitar playing faster | 28:25 Josh drops his lit ciggy and doesn't even react | Josh just drinks his drink and sits there not talking that much.
getting some ink on my arm 2016-02-03

Short video of Josh showing off his tattoo at Black Sunday.

Back from the tattoo Parlor 2016-02-03

Josh shows off his bandaged arm from the tat | 1:00 Josh stresses that he does not have pets, someone tries calling Josh to hang out but he declines. Some troll called Black Sunday while Josh was getting his tattoo pretending be his neighbour, Josh gets mad and rants about it for a while. Some fans from Canada went to Black Sunday to see Josh but missed him the day before | 5:10 Josh bought some cigs and a WWE game for the PlayStation | 7:00 Josh starts going through his comments and reading out the comments (a few get to him). Josh does not have a goat!
New ink 2016-02-04

Josh shows off his fresh new ink without the bandage.

The pentagram on my tattoo 2016-02-04

Josh makes a short video explaining what his new tattoo means
 
Things have gotten especially dark as the 30th birthday approaches.

For fun, I estimated the calories of his root beer floats:

Not Your Father’s Root Beer, one bottle - 300cal
Cookie dough ice cream, 1/2 cup - 200 cal
Chocolate syrup, 2 tbsp - 100 cal

~600 cal per concoction.

Explains why Jord is looking so doughy.

...He deleted all the posts he made from his account, I would consider that purging. You shouldn't call people names. I think the lady doth protest too much...
Nobody knows who or what the fuck you’re talking about. Shut up and stop dipping into Warlord’s stash.
 
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Things have gotten especially dark as the 30th birthday approaches.

For fun, I estimated the calories of his root beer floats:

Not Your Father’s Root Beer, one bottle - 300cal
Cookie dough ice cream, 1/2 cup - 200 cal
Chocolate syrup, 2 tbsp - 100 cal

~600 cal per concoction.

Explains why Jord is looking so doughy.


Nobody knows who or what the fuck you’re talking about. Shut up and stop dipping into Warlord’s stash.
I didn't even bring up the reddit guy you absolute fucking retard. Read the thread and stop acting like such a fucking brainless dullard. Or maybe your reading comprehension is nonexistent
 
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...He deleted all the posts he made from his account, I would consider that purging. You shouldn't call people names. I think the lady doth protest too much...
If you're talking about the kingcobrajfs666420 account or whatever it was, I think the only posts he had on there were the two he posted in the comments about suing the subreddit on the photoshopped image of him coming out of the "Child Porn Store"
 
If you're talking about the kingcobrajfs666420 account or whatever it was, I think the only posts he had on there were the two he posted in the comments about suing the subreddit on the photoshopped image of him coming out of the "Child Porn Store"
I'm talking about a random account someone else mentioned earlier in the thread with like 1000 posts talking shit about Cobes. After he was mentioned here he deleted all his posts.
I thought that was pretty funny, so I mentioned it. I have no idea why this other retard is getting so worked up about it lol
 
I can't imagine what goes on in that dude's head when he's blitzed on that "CBD" bud.
he mentioned in the stream with Darf that Casper was going to be legalizing soon , i'm pretty sure the city might just decriminalize it or it could just be bull shit. But he did say hopefully he can review strains and grow his own brand. Imagine getting a gram with every wand.


EDIT: Oh god its real

 
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Maybe it was because he's too repulsive.
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Things are pretty strict outside the Beauty Parlor.
 
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I can't imagine what goes on in that dude's head when he's blitzed on that "CBD" bud.
He kept saying the weed or the CBD told him he hates rape so I guess that's what was going on in his head. If he's getting such profound messages from a weed brownie I would love to hear him after a DMT trip
 
he mentioned in the stream with Darf that Casper was going to be legalizing soon , i'm pretty sure the city might just decriminalize it or it could just be bull shit. But he did say hopefully he can review strains and grow his own brand. Imagine getting a gram with every wand.


EDIT: Oh god its real

He is definitely planning on reviewing strains and shit on his channel. Should be interesting to watch his further mental decline when he can just go buy weed like he can buy disgusting beers
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please don't delete reaction gif
Things are pretty strict outside the Beauty Parlor.
I mean...I still would, but I am into those BBWs baybee
Quality content. I want it to happen, maybe he needs to watch more Joe Rogan
Imagine if he took DMT and unretarded himself like the episode of the simpsons where Homer removed the pencil in his brain
 
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