Lolcow KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

Muze said:
He is live ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd_6WcnzJmE

Edit: I don't know shit about the "Kratom" stuff but I cant imagine its any good for our boys addictive personality TWU.
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Kratom is actually pretty much harmless.

It can be addictive, but it’s literally just ground up leaves that make you feel good.

You can’t overdose on it (you’d get a headache and throw up before that would ever happen).

If anything, it might be good for him because he’ll feel good from the Kratom and in turn do less of other more harmful substances.
 
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Muze said:
He is live ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd_6WcnzJmE

Edit: I don't know shit about the "Kratom" stuff but I cant imagine its any good for our boys addictive personality TWU.
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I wish he would get hooked on some bullshit like bananadine. Just smoking banana peels thinking he is 'hacking' something and acting like he's high.

If anything, Clint should drag our filthy boglim to the gym. Its a good excuse to force him to shower and hopefully get hooked on pumping iron. Of course, once he tries to lift up some light weight it would shatter some delusions about 'big muscles'

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RL Steinbeck said:
Kratom is actually pretty much harmless.

It can be addictive, but it’s literally just ground up leaves that make you feel good.

You can’t overdose on it (you’d get a headache and throw up before that would ever happen).

If anything, it might be good for him because he’ll feel good from the Kratom and in turn do less of other more harmful substances.
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Before I got sober 5 years ago I was pretty heavy on the kratom. Not making this my personal diary or medical fagging but I feel like most people don't really understand how addictive kratom can be.

You are right though, compared to anything else cobes would be doing it's relatively harmless, but I've heard that a lot of kratom from sketchier sources have been found to have high levels of heavy metals including lead... This wouldn't be an issue if cobes was ordering it online from a reputable source but we all know he's probably buying it at a head shop or gas station...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Public Health Implications and Possible Sources of Lead (Pb) as a Contaminant of Poorly Regulated Kratom Products in the United States

Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) is a tropical tree that is indigenous to Southeast Asia. Kratom leaf products have been used in traditional folk medicine for their unique combination of stimulant and opioid-like effects. Kratom is being increasingly used ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here's a public health article about the subject.
 
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RL Steinbeck said:
It can be addictive, but it’s literally just ground up leaves that make you feel good.
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Well, they're ground up leaves that contain opiates nonetheless.

Considering that he sits around drinking constantly if he starts adding opiates to the mix he's going to be even more slogged than before.
 
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RL Steinbeck said:
Kratom is actually pretty much harmless.

It can be addictive, but it’s literally just ground up leaves that make you feel good.

You can’t overdose on it (you’d get a headache and throw up before that would ever happen).

If anything, it might be good for him because he’ll feel good from the Kratom and in turn do less of other more harmful substances.
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Take it nearly everyday for 2 years for chronic pain. It was the worst withdrawal I've ever had. I miss not having pain though.
 
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So let's say he starts doing kratom, in addition to whatever he's doing now plus the alcohol. Is that going to complement his high and potentially do him bad?

Or is this a substance that he would do instead of drinking all the time?
 

XxxwernxxX said:
So let's say he starts doing kratom, in addition to whatever he's doing now plus the alcohol. Is that going to complement his high and potentially do him bad?

Or is this a substance that he would do instead of drinking all the time?
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Cobra will never give up drinking he's not adding Kratom to help him stop drinking he's just doing it for fun
 
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Big Al's Famous Pork said:
Cobes is never, ever going to get better and people need to accept that.
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In all seriousness I think your right at least as he stands now, but I hold out hope because if I can get sober so can he - I have a soft spot for Josh I don't know why but I just feel for the poor retarded fucker I know he's not nice and he likes to present a laughable image of himself to the world but deep down I honestly just think he wants help.
 
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Phalanges Mycologist said:
In all seriousness I think your right at least as he stands now, but I hold out hope because if I can get sober so can he - I have a soft spot for Josh I don't know why but I just feel for the poor retarded fucker I know he's not nice and he likes to present a laughable image of himself to the world but deep down I honestly just think he wants help.
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There are a handful of kiwis on here that will admit being so rock bottom and hopeless, yet made it out of addiction and deep dark places. If we can do it, there is definitely hope for cobez...


The problem is he seems to relish in his lifestyle and likes it. Thats what makes me think he will never get out of it, or at least to a more manageable level of alcohol and drug use.
 
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SpiceyHuman said:
There are a handful of kiwis on here that will admit being so rock bottom and hopeless, yet made it out of addiction and deep dark places. If we can do it, there is definitely hope for cobez...
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Oh I freely admit I am one of those people, I've yet to find someone who cant but they have to get into the mind space of wanting to BE better and not let shit like Drink or Drugs rule there life.

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The problem is he seems to relish in his lifestyle and likes it. Thats what makes me think he will never get out of it, or at least to a more manageable level of alcohol and drug use.
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I get what your saying and honestly I think it's tied into not just his image of himself but his ODD, Cobes is about what 14/15 in terms of mental development, if you think back to that age of your life you can recall times you made a bad decision and just dug your heels in to prove people wrong, add that to alcoholism an drug use it's a mighty fucking force to over come.

For Josh to get better he needs to reach a crisis point, a personal one he can't just call Daddy Nipps to worm his way out of he needs to just be put in a box mentally speaking for a while away from his distractions like Drink, drugs and the internet and have to deal with himself mentally .
 
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