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What are some tips you guys have towards getting back on track?
With any kind of exercise, you should make it as fun as possible. If you listen to music while you run, then make a good playlist of 150-180bpm songs you can run to. Just rack up miles and don't worry about being fast. If you run like 5-10km every day (rest every few days if you want it's fine) for a few weeks you'll naturally be able to utterly destroy your current pace, so don't force it. Consistency and not injuring yourself are the best two things - and that's true for all exercises.
 
Used to be an adiv runner, now I'm obese and lazy. What are some tips you guys have towards getting back on track?
Get a sportswatch and decent running shoes, the watch because consistency and progress monitoring is essential for motivating you to continue, shoes for obvious reasons. Go to running store to buy them if you're uncertain of size, cause you can mess your feet and fingernails really easily with the wrong shoe and it'll demotivate you.
After that, just start tracking and hit the road. If jogging is real hard, which can be the case if you're obese, simply do some brisk walks. You'll likely want to run faster, but running while fat is quite the task and can really make you depressive, losing the weight is paramount to getting back in a runner shape, this sport requires you to be light and low body fat, any extra kilogram will just add to the stress on your heart, bones, muscles etc. Which are likely quite inflamed from sedentarism, so expect some pain, some stiffness, some days with bad muscle fever after your first runs, but it'll get better.
Also you'll lose weight really fast the first 2 months or so, that should be encouraging you to go further.
Motivation is key, so if you lack some of it, the monitoring of progress will really help. Just like in an RPG, you'll get better stats and will want to farm for more.
 
Got hooked on virtual races. Started out with a shameful 1 mile. Several monthes later I can do 4 miles in one go ( 5 min normal speed, 1 min sprinting).
Will hopefully be able to fo 6.5 miles by June of this year.
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Helped me lose 30 pounds.
 
Used to be an adiv runner, now I'm obese and lazy. What are some tips you guys have towards getting back on track?
It sounds stupid as hell but those couch to 5k apps helped me out when I first got into running. I’m not sure if the zombie one is still around but that’s the one I used - it’s the right mixture of hand-holding and “all right, get your ass in gear.”
 
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is anyone else running tomorrow?
this will be my eighth year of running a new year's day 10k!
I haven't kept a consistent "tradition" but I've generally tried to start the new year by doing a 10k run or equivalent excercise routine.

This morning I've only managed 5.5k (I'm out of shape and only recently started exercising semi-regularly). It was seeing your post last thing yesterday which pushed me to at least try, so thank you for that.
 
Running weathers went to complete shit up north. Had a lot of snow (nice to run on) which melted and turned into ice (not nice to run on). I got good winter running shoes, but goddamn do some of the turns in my trail feel deadly.

No excuses, though. Gotta get those miles in.
 
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How do you deal with the painful lower back aches that make you feel like you're going to shit yourself but also like a period cramp, when you run too hard/fast? I can't push myself to my top speed for long periods of time unless I want to be squatting over a toilet for a literal 10 minutes. Same happens when running up a hill at the same pace instead of slowing down. Tried NSAIDs beforehand, not eating for two hours prior to running, stretching, taking a shit prior. RDLs at the gym, leg weights, etc. None of it helps. It doesn't stop me from running again, but it is discouraging. Doesn't happen if I don't push myself.

History: Running ~3 times a week for 5 years. 3 years straight treadmill, mix for the last two years. Sickle cell carrier so my blood cells are shit at carrying oxygen.
 
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How do you deal with the painful lower back aches that make you feel like you're going to shit yourself but also like a period cramp, when you run too hard/fast? I can't push myself to my top speed for long periods of time unless I want to be squatting over a toilet for a literal 10 minutes. Same happens when running up a hill at the same pace instead of slowing down. Tried NSAIDs beforehand, not eating for two hours prior to running, stretching, taking a shit prior. RDLs at the gym, leg weights, etc. None of it helps. It doesn't stop me from running again, but it is discouraging. Doesn't happen if I don't push myself.

History: Running ~3 times a week for 5 years. 3 years straight treadmill, mix for the last two years. Sickle cell carrier so my blood cells are shit at carrying oxygen.
Lower back pain seems unrelated to the gastrointestinal issues, but who knows. If you have lower back pains from sedentarism before you starting running, they should go away as you gain strength.
Bad posture can cause a LOT of issues. And bad posture is very common in amateur runner (I have it too), especially when getting tired on long runs. When you can start catching your head looking down instead of in front, when your shoulders start getting tight, your arms no longer are moving naturally with the flow of the run, yeah, you're tired. Next day you might notice one painful knee, or one shoulder blade that is giving you trouble on each step. Or you'll develop muscle soreness on one leg. All are typical of bad posture and your body compensating.
Gotta straighten up and look forward as much as humanly possible, and relax the torso.
Now, the toilet stuff you're describing could be "runner's trots". Do you have stomach acidity? Do you cough, feel a roughness, irritation in your trachea? Do you feel some liquid sloshing in your stomach when you start running longer? Salivation? Stomach pain? All culminating in a need to eventually cut the run and hit the toilet? Does it subside if you stop running and just walk?
If yeah, it's probably that.
NSAIDs are a no-no, as they often irritate the stomach mucosa and that means more acid, which we do not want.
You should try to eat... something... before runs, you need fuel. Try some dry fruit, maybe a banana. Just a little, to have something inside the stomach. Do not eat anything oily and hard to digest. Try some neutral foods you might have around.
If it doesn't work, take an anti-acid medication like 2 hrs before the run. I would recommend Famotidine, 20mgs, very safe, very easy to buy, essentially no side effects. Another option is something line Rennie chewing tablets, which work on neutralizing existing acid. Famotidine will work on cutting secretion. But if you're certain you have acidity, if you had stomach issues, acid reflux during sleep, I would see a medic instead, they might prescribe something long term and also have you do some poop tests and some Xrays to see if there are lesions (ulcers) on your gastrointestinal tract and if there is a bacterial infection that needs some antibiotics.
Lastly, you should definitely not "push it" a lot, especially if you have a medical condition, keep to the 80% chill, 20% faster tempo-HIIT, and recover after it properly. Running is VERY intensive on your body. Might also give a shot to running more often, but lighter, so 5 days instead of 3, but go chill 4 of them, insert a slow long run, and relaxed easy runs as the norm.
 
Any tips on avoiding hysterical dive bombing seagulls when out running?
 
I got a ballot place at the London marathon next year! I'm (6ft1/ 120kg) a slow 5k jogger at best (37 min parkrun). I'm hoping for sub 100kg by April and under 4.5 hours on raceday.

Chance?
 
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I got a ballot place at the London marathon next year! I'm (6ft1/ 120kg) a slow 5k jogger at best (37 min parkrun). I'm hoping for sub 100kg by April and under 4.5 hours on raceday.

Chance?
Low-ish but possible, that's about 35BMI. Long distance running gets progressively harder for the longer distances, so you should get comfy running HMs first IMO, and then see how you do at 30kms and above, and only then consider racing a full marathon.
I would also be careful not to put an insane amount of stress on your body while you're overweight/obese, like a marathon would be. Your focus should be on consistent, regular training, like 5 days/week+, and losing the weight first. No need to rush to racing, no need to push yourself, just slowly get into a daily rhythm, where even if you don't run, you weight lift or do some spinning, or rowing, anything, for like 30 mins. Walk to the store and carry the bags too. Is it 5, 8kms? Even better for your body. Car only if truly needed.
Weight loss, cardiac health as prio, racing will come after naturally, you'll see, but don't overload your heart, there are dangers to sudden intense efforts.
 
Low-ish but possible, that's about 35BMI. Long distance running gets progressively harder for the longer distances, so you should get comfy running HMs first IMO, and then see how you do at 30kms and above, and only then consider racing a full marathon.
I would also be careful not to put an insane amount of stress on your body while you're overweight/obese, like a marathon would be. Your focus should be on consistent, regular training, like 5 days/week+, and losing the weight first. No need to rush to racing, no need to push yourself, just slowly get into a daily rhythm, where even if you don't run, you weight lift or do some spinning, or rowing, anything, for like 30 mins. Walk to the store and carry the bags too. Is it 5, 8kms? Even better for your body. Car only if truly needed.
Weight loss, cardiac health as prio, racing will come after naturally, you'll see, but don't overload your heart, there are dangers to sudden intense efforts.
That gives me confidence, thanks. I've been jogging 3 days a week after work for the past 2 months. Short workouts either jogging keeping my heartrate down (high end zone 3) or run/walk intervals (progressed to 90% jog/ 10% run). I've done distance before but so slowly it's more honest to call it hiking and long enough ago to call it a past life.
 
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That gives me confidence, thanks. I've been jogging 3 days a week after work for the past 2 months. Short workouts either jogging keeping my heartrate down (high end zone 3) or run/walk intervals (progressed to 90% jog/ 10% run). I've done distance before but so slowly it's more honest to call it hiking and long enough ago to call it a past life.
It's good you're training with HR, but do keep in mind that it needs a correct HR max to set the zones, and the formula estimation is often wrong (sometimes by a lot, like 20bpm). I also cannot recommend that you do a HR max test while overweight, for the reasons in the previous post. So take the zones as a rough estimation.
The HR will continue to go down, and you will at first lose a lot of weight quite fast (as long as you manage to not overcompensate with food, as running will make you hungrier). The first kgs will be water weight, which you now have an additional way to get rid of through perspiration, not just urination. Then there will be the body fat which is a long term struggle, but you've already taken the most important steps, you started running (and I know the pain that running is at this weight) and you do it with regularity.
Don't push it, run slow, and run longer, so you burn more calories. You're not setting records here. It's preferable that you run an hour or more slowly than trying to push a faster PR at 5K and then be busted for 3 days, get severe pains in joints and muscles. You'll have time for speedwork and intervals, no worries.
Don't get discouraged if you gain some weight (likely water), or if some runs are bad and the HR is high, resulting in early fatigue. If it's summer where you live, the heat will have a very significant influence. Don't get discouraged if you have longer periods of no progress, if you track VO2max, Running Index and other metrics - your body is complex, and sometimes it fights an inflammation or infection that you don't even know of. Sleep, food, everything will affect your running capacity.
The key is making it into a habit and getting used to basically daily activity. We need to compensate for our often sedentary jobs and hours of shitposting and relaxation at the PC.
Keep well fed, and hydrated, and sleep as much as you can. Recovery after more painful runs is better done by walking or chill biking/spinning, not sitting btw.
Just keep doing it, and take good care of your body, results are guaranteed.
 
Running Kiwis - What is the most impact absorbant running shoe? I don't care about time, or speed, or anything like that, and it can have cartoon-springs in the heel for all I care, but it has to absorb impacts or force the person wearing it to land on their front toes.
 
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Running Kiwis - What is the most impact absorbant running shoe? I don't care about time, or speed, or anything like that, and it can have cartoon-springs in the heel for all I care, but it has to absorb impacts or force the person wearing it to land on their front toes.
There is none to force you to switch form/not heel strike. Forefoot/heelstrike is a pretty old debate in running and it's not strightforward at all, just as there is no ideal shape for all types of running. Trainers you see online usually come with prepared stuff that is tailored to already advanced runners.
If you wanna choose a good shoe (might cost quite a bit, and if you're starting out, it's not worth it IMO) go to some sports store, preferably with a large running apparel section and some half-knowledgeable staff, something like Decathlon if it exists where you live. You'll do a bit of jogging and tell them the surface you plan on running and how much, what pace etc., and they'll recommend a few shoes.
If you were an experienced runner you'd already read shoe reviews and have experience with various brands like Hoka, Nike, Adidas, New Balance etc. So I have to assume you wanna start and you might be worried about the damage running will do to your legs?
It's on you to offer as many details as possible, makes for better advice for sure.
As for your running form, it's a long term struggle, and it will change a lot as you get faster and able to sustain long runs at a low, comfy heart rate AND decent pace. As you start your running form will be basically zero, slogging through pain and wondering how the hell people do this shit for 3 hours and 40kms. Shoes can help some, but the only thing that actually helps your running significantly is more fucking running, lot more.
 
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There is none to force you to switch form/not heel strike. Forefoot/heelstrike is a pretty old debate in running and it's not strightforward at all, just as there is no ideal shape for all types of running. Trainers you see online usually come with prepared stuff that is tailored to already advanced runners.
If you wanna choose a good shoe (might cost quite a bit, and if you're starting out, it's not worth it IMO) go to some sports store, preferably with a large running apparel section and some half-knowledgeable staff, something like Decathlon if it exists where you live. You'll do a bit of jogging and tell them the surface you plan on running and how much, what pace etc., and they'll recommend a few shoes.
If you were an experienced runner you'd already read shoe reviews and have experience with various brands like Hoka, Nike, Adidas, New Balance etc. So I have to assume you wanna start and you might be worried about the damage running will do to your legs?
It's on you to offer as many details as possible, makes for better advice for sure.
As for your running form, it's a long term struggle, and it will change a lot as you get faster and able to sustain long runs at a low, comfy heart rate AND decent pace. As you start your running form will be basically zero, slogging through pain and wondering how the hell people do this shit for 3 hours and 40kms. Shoes can help some, but the only thing that actually helps your running significantly is more fucking running, lot more.
This is for someone who just wants to be able to run "a mile" but who has very bad knees.
 
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This is for someone who just wants to be able to run "a mile" but who has very bad knees.
What's bad knees? Is there a specific illness? Rheumatism? Past surgeries? Obesity? Or just pain, which is inherent after a few decades of sedentarism and chronic inflammation.
You should never force things and you should always start very slow. Don't set goals. Just go out and walk fast, and then run a bit, see how you feel.
Why do you wanna run? Just to prove something? Or you wanna keep in shape? Lose weight? If it's just a short term thing, the training for a mile is rather insignificant, even really out of shape people are able to do it. If it's something like the keep in shape/lose weight long term goals, it's very important to keep comfy and not burn yourself out or get yourself discouraged by trying too much too soon, and just plan on having fun.
 
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