EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
>Broadcasts his speech from a massive palace he is spending millions to update
"I empathize with the people of France in this difficult time!"
>Has to use a booster seat to look over the solid gold ink well and pen tray
"Do not be fooled by corruption in your movement!"
>Is the puppet of the rich and well connected (((globalist))) oligarchs
"There is no reason to be violent with the police!"
>Orders the use of military arms and explosives on crowds

It's almost like he wants to make the situation even more violent! Who wants to start taking odds on when he will be deposed/resign/guillotined?
 
Honestly I think it's only a matter of time until the french police kill someone.
Is Macron actually a member of House Bourbon, he's so out of touch it's insane.


Funnily enough the actual house Bourbon and the Royalists actually support the Yellow Vests, for better or worse.
The main claimant to the throne of France and great-great ... grandson of the King Louis XVI (the one whose head got chopped off) spoke out in support of the movement recently.

Here is his speech in French. http://www.lefigaro.fr/culture/2018...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1544467526

And here is the only article in English I could find about it.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/europe/french-royalists-involved-in-the-yellow-vest-riots-in-paris-112722

Bring back the monarchy! Long live the King!
 
Funnily enough the actual house Bourbon and the Royalists actually support the Yellow Vests, for better or worse.
The main claimant to the throne of France and great-great ... grandson of the King Louis XVI (the one whose head got chopped off) spoke out in support of the movement recently.

Here is his speech in French. http://www.lefigaro.fr/culture/2018...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1544467526

And here is the only article in English I could find about it.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/europe/french-royalists-involved-in-the-yellow-vest-riots-in-paris-112722

Bring back the monarchy! Long live the King!
Honestly a constitutional monarchy is a decent system, so I'd unironically support that if it's similar to the british monarchy in terms of powers.
 
Whether it's Macron, Merkel or May, these nations are being ruined by cunts in the government.

I won't go back on the cancellation of the Tax on the Fortune. It was driving rich people away and ruining the economy.
So, if the only way to keep these useless roaches in your country is to not tax them at all, you might as well have them leave ffs. It's not like you gain much from keeping them around anyway. And when the middle class has to pay like 70% of taxes, there's only one thing to do to solve this issue:

Declare these locusts stateless and sanction the everloving shit out of every bank, every company and every nation that gives them the time of day. Full stop.

The funny / horrifying thing as a non-Frenchman watching this is learning just how bad Macron's plans were, based on what he's walking back. A fucking tax on low income pensioners? What the fuck?
Yeah, why are people living on tax money taxed to begin with?

Police shoot peoples eyes out and throw tear-gas/tnt grenades that other countrys don't use.
They also arrest literal school children and make them kneel while gloating at them.
Literally cordon off protestors so they can't leave and THEN tear gas them, basically torturing
civilians

People fight back.

"There's no excuse to be violent towards police."
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't France well known for always facing protesters in a way that they have the possibility to withdraw?
Like, police formations would cordon off 3 sides of a place and leave the other open, to allow the crowd to dissipate and thus deescalate the situation?
Now, they'll just put up a nice siege ring around the protesters and wonder when shit hits the fan.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't France well known for always facing protesters in a way that they have the possibility to withdraw?
Like, police formations would cordon off 3 sides of a place and leave the other open, to allow the crowd to dissipate and thus deescalate the situation?
Now, they'll just put up a nice siege ring around the protesters and wonder when shit hits the fan.

Yes, usually this is how it went. However on Saturday, the police and army blocked all the exits and entrances to the Elysian Fields, leaving the protesters that actually made it there stuck on the avenue for hours. The only ones that could go in and out were people with a Press Card or else law enforcement themselves. And no, it didn't work out well for them.

Thing is, in the Soviet Union, there was a tactic used by the armed forces which was called "the grid" in a rough translation. Basically, what it entailed was to separate protesters in grids so to speak, in different zones to contain them better. So instead of a large group of protesters that could overpower the armed forces, you could have smaller groups split all over the city and easier to contain.

It seems that this is the tactic the French Ministry of Interior (State Department) was trying to do here by stopping more protesters from joining the Elysian Fields. Unfortunately, they didn't actually check where the protesters they had turned around went afterwards.
So instead of having police forces split around the capital (and again, keep in mind there was supposedly 89k policemen mobilized on Saturday), they packed everything on one single spot - the Elysian Fields, while turning away 8/10th of the protesters.
Naturally, what happened is that the people started rioting in other "grids" / districts of Paris with impunity.

The Mayor of Paris confirmed in a tweet that the material damages to the city were actually higher this Saturday (after the army's involvement and all the "security measures" taken by the government) than on December 1. So good job on that I guess.

Here's a French link for the estimate of the material damages in Paris https://france3-regions.francetvinf...ts-que-1er-decembre-mairie-paris-1589243.html
 
Honestly I think it's only a matter of time until the french police kill someone.
Is Macron actually a member of House Bourbon, he's so out of touch it's insane.

They've already killed someone. The Police accidentally fired one of those explosive tear gas canisters into the face of an innocent 90 year old woman, who was leaning out her 4th floor window to close the shudders, killing her. This happened on the first or second day, but was quickly clamped down in the news.
 
Macron announces state of “economic emergency” in France, promises small salary increases

As France still struggles to get a grip on the massive protests that have been raging through the country for weeks, President Emmanuel Macron has admitted that the country is in a state of “economic emergency.”“Today, we are forced to admit [it]. Today, I am announcing an economic emergency in our country,” Macron said, addressing the nation on Monday and calling for “support” for the French economy.

https://www.rt.com/news/446111-macron-speaks-france-massive-protests/
 
Macron announces state of “economic emergency” in France, promises small salary increases

As France still struggles to get a grip on the massive protests that have been raging through the country for weeks, President Emmanuel Macron has admitted that the country is in a state of “economic emergency.”“Today, we are forced to admit [it]. Today, I am announcing an economic emergency in our country,” Macron said, addressing the nation on Monday and calling for “support” for the French economy.

https://www.rt.com/news/446111-macron-speaks-france-massive-protests/

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