Legend of Zelda thread - Lorefags GTFO!

Isn't it common knowledge that, unless otherwise stated, game canon is typically separate from other media? Like for example, you wouldn't try to cram the Pokemon manga canon (of which I think there are multiple) into the game canon, so why do it with Zelda.
 
People say it’s established that the Rito clan and the Zoras are linked by evolution. That theory is shit, doesn’t matter what Nintendo says right now, and guess what?

Despite what the developers have said that the Rito became created when they needed to find a way to reuse Zora models (which people use to justify that they are in fact related), I have here an official comic in Nintendo Power dated 10 years before Wind Waker

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The Zoras and the Ritos have NOTHING to do with each other. Back then the Zoras were enemy fish monsters and only luckily became a different thing when R and L misnamed them.

Allow me to reiterate.

THE RITOS AND THE ZORAS HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING RELATED

Miyamoto’s opinion doesn’t matter because the guy doesn’t keep things straight anyway. The Koopalings were once Bowsers kids, now they aren’t. And don’t even get me started with how his decisions ruined the long term growth of Star Fox.

Zoras are Fish. Rito are Birds. That’s two extraordinarily different animals in every way.
 
Allow me to reiterate.

THE RITOS AND THE ZORAS HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING RELATED

Miyamoto’s opinion doesn’t matter because the guy doesn’t keep things straight anyway. The Koopalings were once Bowsers kids, now they aren’t. And don’t even get me started with how his decisions ruined the long term growth of Star Fox.

Zoras are Fish. Rito are Birds. That’s two extraordinarily different animals in every way.
Dude calm down, they are fantasy creatures in a high fantasy setting where magic and divine intervention is involved. Forest elfs and nut people are also very different from each other yet you don't question their evolution from a reason.
 
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Allow me to reiterate.

THE RITOS AND THE ZORAS HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING RELATED

Miyamoto’s opinion doesn’t matter because the guy doesn’t keep things straight anyway. The Koopalings were once Bowsers kids, now they aren’t. And don’t even get me started with how his decisions ruined the long term growth of Star Fox.

Zoras are Fish. Rito are Birds. That’s two extraordinarily different animals in every way.
You don't have to like all of Miyamoto's shitty canon but it is what it is, autistically denying it makes you seem retarded. The 4th wall breaking canon of him being the Koopalings' mother is truly stupid but I just ignore it.

I don't even know why you're so vehemently against a Zora/Rito connection anyway, why the fuck do you even care. I thought it was neat.
 
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Allow me to reiterate.

THE RITOS AND THE ZORAS HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING RELATED

Miyamoto’s opinion doesn’t matter because the guy doesn’t keep things straight anyway. The Koopalings were once Bowsers kids, now they aren’t. And don’t even get me started with how his decisions ruined the long term growth of Star Fox.

Zoras are Fish. Rito are Birds. That’s two extraordinarily different animals in every way.
What are your feelings on pussy?
 
Anyone that holds fictional canon to such a high degree is retarded. Especially fictional canon that isn't ever referenced and is constantly ignored within Nintendo games.

It's all made up shit, you can believe what you want, but if you're upset about it and screaming at the void about it you're fucking retarded and need to

 
They shat out a reason for as the Zoras aren't around because it'd be awkward if a whole race of people could just swim under the surface to see the ruin as of Hyrule beneath the ocean, I don't think the reasoning was ever meant to be more than a pragmatic story choice
I've seen people defend this by saying that Zoras can't survive in sault water.

But then you got to ignore Majora's Mask.
 
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I always found the gerudo underrated. I'm glad for Nabooru and Urbosa but I feel like Ganon being one overshadows the others tbh.
 
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I just finished OoT and MM and now I'm playing Wind Waker (I swear I'll finish it this time). Can I just say I hate the combat? Enemies gang up on you and hit you just as you line up an attack on their friends. While this is realistic, I content that it is also annoying as shit. The biggest shitshow though is that enemies can attack while under mercy invincibility. There's no excuse for a Moblin to clip through my sword swings to knock me flat. That's just bullshit. I only got through the post-Master-Sword section by spamming boomerang + jump slash until the enemy falls over. That's not satisfying at all.

N64 combat feels crisp and fun. WW combat feels janky and cheap.

While I'm in full whine mode, I almost gave up 3 rooms into the Tower of Gods dungeon with that goddamn water rising and falling bullshit. I really don't know why the devs though making the player wait for like 20 seconds a time for the water to go back the right level was a good idea. When the King said the Gods were testing me I didn't realize they were testing my goddamn patience..
 
Dude calm down, they are fantasy creatures in a high fantasy setting where magic and divine intervention is involved. Forest elfs and nut people are also very different from each other yet you don't question their evolution from a reason.

OoT actually already established that the (Black Face) Skull Children are evolved Kokori.

Now as for the Zora/Rito connection, I guess “Survival of the Fittest” explains it best.

If I was a Fish Creature and saw the whole world become flooded, creating tons of potential places for colonies, I’d want to grow out wings and a beak too.
 
I just finished OoT and MM and now I'm playing Wind Waker (I swear I'll finish it this time). Can I just say I hate the combat? Enemies gang up on you and hit you just as you line up an attack on their friends. While this is realistic, I content that it is also annoying as shit. The biggest shitshow though is that enemies can attack while under mercy invincibility. There's no excuse for a Moblin to clip through my sword swings to knock me flat. That's just bullshit. I only got through the post-Master-Sword section by spamming boomerang + jump slash until the enemy falls over. That's not satisfying at all.

N64 combat feels crisp and fun. WW combat feels janky and cheap.

While I'm in full whine mode, I almost gave up 3 rooms into the Tower of Gods dungeon with that goddamn water rising and falling bullshit. I really don't know why the devs though making the player wait for like 20 seconds a time for the water to go back the right level was a good idea. When the King said the Gods were testing me I didn't realize they were testing my goddamn patience..
Nigga, I just parry everything.
 
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