Legend of Zelda thread - Lorefags GTFO!

[TheDarknessGrows]

Except Wind Waker's is a big stretch and the Hero of Legend's is complete bullshit.

Just like the real world?

... wait.

ALSO LOREFAGS GTFO.

 

[Creep3r]

I'm curious about thst possibility now, they do purposefully screw with games that way.

@BananaSplit² If you play the BotW DLC TotK maybe you can address this at some point.

As far as I know, most of the worst translation drama with Treehouse seems to happen with Fire Emblem (a series I tried to avoid), but I think BotW had some weird translation choices too, particularly one line Kilton has when he tells you about his monster money:

Mon is a currency I invented to destabilize the market and fight the establishment! Just kidding, there is no establishment in Hyrule! I just love monsters so much that I turned them into money!

Mamo is a currency I invented that can only be used at my store.

If that was their exact phrasing (I didn't pay attention to anything surrounding BotW) then it just sounds like an immense amount of time has passed since those games and/or history has been lost for some reason (some kind of disaster).

This article from 2018 has them state that BotW takes place at the end of the timeline:

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Has Been Added To The Series’ Official Timeline

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's placement on the Hyrule timeline has now been officially revealed, but isn't very revealing at all. Series producer Aonuma explains the reason for the enigmatic answer.

www.siliconera.com

And they mention how the past timelines are handled now can be freely interpreted by fans.

Later, a 2018 publication called Creating a Champion has them say that the past games have faded into myth, which I guess could work in the way you state it. However TotK seems to throw any notion of continuity with the past games out the window, although the games outside of a handful never seemed to have much continuity to begin with, but TotK just makes any possibility of trying to connect them impossible and irrelevant, and I'm half expecting a lot of lorefags on youtube to start jumping through hoops to try and explain it.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

As far as I know, most of the worst translation drama with Treehouse seems to happen with Fire Emblem (a series I tried to avoid), but I think BotW had some weird translation choices too, particularly one line Kilton has when he tells you about his monster money:

These libtards really can't help but push and push. I wonder if Nintendo of Japan has any idea this kind of shit happens or if they just allow it. What's the conversation like if there's oversight? "Oh hey Miyamaoto chan, yeah, we just wanna add this sort of commie politics shit in your family friendly game just a little, is that okay?"

TotK just makes any possibility of trying to connect them impossible and irrelevant, and I'm half expecting a lot of lorefags on youtube to start jumping through hoops to try and explain it.

Even though I didn't play BotW and don't see myself playing TotK any time soon I've been avoiding spoilers, but generally speaking what does TotK do to that effect? I know there's some time travel shit going on but I'm curious what happens.

 

[Betonhaus]

These libtards really can't help but push and push. I wonder if Nintendo of Japan has any idea this kind of shit happens or if they just allow it. What's the conversation like if there's oversight? "Oh hey Miyamaoto chan, yeah, we just wanna add this sort of commie politics shit in your family friendly game just a little, is that okay?"

Why do you think Nintendo force the Mario movie team to burn the tapes and rewrite a good portion of it?

 

[Dildo_SHwaggins]

I think it goes both ways. People ravenously hating anyone paying any degree of attention to anything going on between the games are just as bad (or worse) than the autists poring over map data between games for any hint of a correlation.

Are there many people like that? I've only seen the lore autists, not the people you're describing.

I don't think people many people care if past games are referenced in some way through the story or locations on the map. Trying to fit everything into a complete timeline is a retarded and futile effort.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Are there many people like that? I've only seen the lore autists, not the people you're describing.

Agreed

I call lorefags retards because they end up just dominating discussion with fucking headcanon bullshit that isn't even creative or interesting. It's basically what pulled me out of Zelda tbqh.

But I'm not going to get super mad over it. I'll just call them retards and be on my way.

 

[Dildo_SHwaggins]

Agreed

I call lorefags retards because they end up just dominating discussion with fucking headcanon bullshit that isn't even creative or interesting. It's basically what pulled me out of Zelda tbqh.

But I'm not going to get super mad over it. I'll just call them retards and be on my way.

It's also just retarded. I don't see why the timeline is so special or important to these people. Zelda doesn't have a working timeline, so what? The games are still good, that doesn't change.

 

[NerdShamer]

I don't see why the timeline is so special or important to these people

Because it's the sunken-cost fallacy in motion to them; plus, some of them are actual spergs with unsupervised internet access.

 

[Betonhaus]

This is a game that has time manipulation as an actual mechanic, skyward sword let you jump thousands of years into the past. it does seem reasonable to expect the timeline of events to be squishy and not match up well.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Honestly, I just see the timeline stuff as interesting, but not worth going full in-depth over.

Back to TOTK, I know that Epoch gave rather negative impressions on the game, but it still hasn't dampened my excitement for it. Then again, I'm not exactly one who thinks BOTW's formula being different from previous Zelda games was a bad thing, and a lot of the stuff he said he has issues with I find to be intriguing. Heck, with all that it added, it doesn't look to be just glorified DLC, as least for me.

I do wonder if the divide between those who love the new Zelda direction like me, and those who prefer the older style of the previous 3D titles is only gonna increase with both TOTK and any future installments.

 

[Soycast Guy]

Found the faggots
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Do you mean Link or the wood?

 

[Betonhaus]

Do you mean Link or the wood?

Yes

 

[mrs thickness]

Was Eventide Island the only part in BOTW that temporarily takes away your inventory? I've done a few shrines in TOTK which do it and there's also at least one sidequest which does it.

 

[Betonhaus]

Was Eventide Island the only part in BOTW that temporarily takes away your inventory? I've done a few shrines in TOTK which do it and there's also at least one sidequest which does it.

Pretty sure. It's whole thing was you were only allowed to use what you can find on the island.

Of course I found that to be dumb so the last time I did it I brought a raft over and dumped some good stuff nearby before stepping on the island.

 

[Activelo]

I said "fuck it" and went for the Ryujinx emulator. Just unlocked the first tower outside of Hyrule Castle.

Does the game crash around every 10-20 minutes for anybody else? Thank Christ for the autosave.

 

[NerdShamer]

I do wonder if the divide between those who love the new Zelda direction like me, and those who prefer the older style of the previous 3D titles is only gonna increase with both TOTK and any future installments

I honestly liked the concept of an open world Zelda game, even with how barren BOTW is and how TOTK is an borderline cash grab. So far, it's an idea that technically should be impossible to screw up; but both times, it feels that the devs are playing it an little bit too safe.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

I think BotW had some weird translation choices too, particularly one line Kilton has when he tells you about his monster money

To be fair, that's pretty funny. I remember being amused by it when I read it.

Much worse was mistranslating about Ganon at the end.

 

[Pissmaster]

I must be doing something very wrong because I've been ditzing around on the Great Sky Island for a long time now, and I've only done two shrines, but also am doing a bunch of DIY mine cart + fan tracks now to get around this island and it sucks. Did I accidentally stumble into doing stuff meant for later in the game? I sure am sick of having three hearts and minimal stamina.

I said "fuck it" and went for the Ryujinx emulator. Just unlocked the first tower outside of Hyrule Castle.

Does the game crash around every 10-20 minutes for anybody else? Thank Christ for the autosave.

Everyone on Ryujinx is having random crash issues. Seems to be totally random and updates to the emulator haven't fixed it.

 

[Betonhaus]

I must be doing something very wrong because I've been ditzing around on the Great Sky Island for a long time now, and I've only done two shrines, but also am doing a bunch of DIY mine cart + fan tracks now to get around this island and it sucks. Did I accidentally stumble into doing stuff meant for later in the game? I sure am sick of having three hearts and minimal stamina.

Are there any hints to where the other two shrines are on that island?

 

[Activelo]

I must be doing something very wrong because I've been ditzing around on the Great Sky Island for a long time now, and I've only done two shrines, but also am doing a bunch of DIY mine cart + fan tracks now to get around this island and it sucks. Did I accidentally stumble into doing stuff meant for later in the game? I sure am sick of having three hearts and minimal stamina.

There was only two or three (or four, I wasn't counting) times where I had to use the mine carts to get to the shrines. I couldn't find where to go for the snow mountain at one point, so I somehow climbed up a slick wall a good bit of the way there and barely made it.

Found out the hard way that there's no fast travel until you unlock the Temple of Time door, so that's fun.

Everyone on Ryujinx is having random crash issues. Seems to be totally random and updates to the emulator haven't fixed it.

Are there any hints to where the other two shrines are on that island?

After you complete the first shrine, you'll be advised to look through your scope and mark the Shrines glowing green in the distance. One's to the left and the other is to the right.