Let's Players originating from Something Awful - ft. VoidBurger, General Ironicus, Bob Kamoc

[RJ MacReady]

It was less an argument and more goading her into the response I was expecting from her. To be honest, I've always wondered why she tussles with the SH wiki crowd and Twin Perfect. Both pretty much act to confirm her bullshit theories on the series. She ain't too bright, of course.....

So, uh... Nice DeviantArt you have there.

 

[CrayolaFuckinModelMagic]

So, uh... Nice DeviantArt you have there.

Yes, pretty fucking terrible. That pre-2008 stuff, in particular, is mega cringe.

 

[PLB]

I've been a registered member of SA since around 2010 but I don't post much and I've mostly kept to Tipping 40's and after that Kuvo's lp's. It's pretty crazy to look back and see how barely 7 years ago T40's based their entire FFX lp around Tidus constantly being called a faggot by his dad. The forum smiley might even still be there.
Seeing as I basically only stuck to their lp's and later on, some of Geop's lp's that featured Kuvo I don't really have anything of substance to add to the thread. I do want to mention that I really appreciate Kuvo for avoiding getting involved in politics and how he continues to treat lp's as a hobby.

and this is from kuvo's latest thread.
http://imgur.com/YtxWAel

Edit: its just the one image but it broke when i tried to link it and i cant remove the 2 broken versions from the comment

 

[Pointless Pedant]

So, uh... Nice DeviantArt you have there.

Halal thread when?

 

[BuckBumble]

and this is from kuvo's latest thread.
http://imgur.com/YtxWAel

The second and third images are showing up as broken to me, what's it say?

 

[BlueChan]

Try to keep the fftopic: to a minimum, guys.

Anyway, some more jontron shit:

 

[BlueSpark]

The /r/jontron subreddit has been brigaded hard by SJWs for the last few weeks.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

The /r/jontron subreddit has been brigaded hard by SJWs for the last few weeks.

You'd expect that, really. With the exception of a few conservative subs like /r/the_donald, reddit is a liberal website. Part of the reason I stopped going there as much was the endless autistic screeching that Brexit was going to turn the UK into Somalia and Trump was going to start World War 3 and destroy the world.

I'm not "alt right" myself, though I did vote to leave the EU, but the endless scaremongering was incredibly annoying.

 

[Ravana]

Try to keep the fftopic: to a minimum, guys.

Anyway, some more jontron shit:
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More shit that's okay because they do it from our favorite SA LP celebs

 

[BlueChan]

Combing through archives of VoidBurger's ask.fm and Twitter was a rather illuminating experience.

For starters, during the height of GamerGate a lot of times a person who supported it would come in out of nowhere to "correct" her on something, and she would complain about it. Every single time. This is just one example:

Also - and this is honestly kind of amazing - she was actually gullible enough to buy into the narrative that Jace Connors was real and dangerous.

(The link is to this infamous Gawker article about Jace, FYI.)

And speaking of GamerGate:

Given what we've learned about Zoe Quinn, her influence, and the rest of the Rat King, I have to call bullshit on that last claim. (Saying nothing of her claiming that SJWs aren't extreme.)

But of course, you can't expect an unbiased answer with someone who talks frequently to Quinn herself:

Spoiler: Long images within - part 1/2

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Fun fact: just under a month earlier she'd blasted people spreading a fake Anita Sarkeesian tweet that slandered the then-recently deceased Satoru Iwata.

Spoiler: Long images within - part 2/2

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She's also buddies with Johnathan McIntosh:

And indeed, when asked about how GG had managed to unearth this sort of conspiracy about the Rat King's true nature (c.f. the CON leaks), she essentially laughed it off as nonsense:

This goes a fair ways towards explaining her demeanor towards the movement, such as her irrational hostility towards anyone affiliated with it (regardless of what they've done):

Or the beliefs she expresses in this exchange (and no, I don't know what shirt they're talking about):

So far it's fairly reasonable, actually. Of course, leave it to Jessica to take things in the exact opposite direction:

Incidentally, she was also prone to doing stupid little tests in order to lure out GG supporters for mockery (think an ever so slightly less dumb version of the bait she put out for us a while ago). For example:

To close out this post, here's her rationale for never shutting up about GamerGate:

Fair enough, but there's certainly a difference between speaking out against it and openly mocking its supporters, referring to them as monsters, refusing to not talk about it for months on end, etc. Even she got tired of all this:

But apparently she ignored the fact that she is in control of her own actions, and therefore could've stopped at any point she wanted.

Most striking of all is this:

Jessica is essentially refusing to stop feeding the trolls (and, in turn, fueling them). Frankly, I'm surprised it took her until now to realize that continuously making an ass of yourself on Twitter over politics isn't going to endear you to everyone.

Actually, that's part of what struck me about her conversation with Psychedelic Eyeball right after protecting her Twitter; if you don't mind me going armchair psychologist for a bit, she sounded genuinely affected by the realization that taunting the trolls isn't going to do any good. Her self-admitted "dumb and impulsive" nature (combined with her inexplicable belief that 1 or 2 haters were behind all the negative comments sent her way and the influence of her Twitter followers providing a handy echo chamber) ultimately did bite her in the ass.

Spoiler: P.S.

If you're wondering why images appear to be missing in the screencaps/archives (for example, her avatar); all of these are culled from Wayback Machine (and subsequently fed into archive.is), which tends to fuck up with details like that.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Women are shown as sexy things, not smart things.

Unfortunately, VoidSperger is neither of those.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Huh. Fair point I guess.

So when men in leadership positions give preference to hiring other men for important/high achievement positions, or don't want women gaming with them, it must just be because they feel more comfortable working with men rather than women, and we should stop trying to stomp on their preferences and respect their feelings, right? It's wrong to call anyone bad just because they like to help their buds. Because forming a secret and exclusionary cabal that suppresses diversity and expression through lies and manipulation apparently can be defined as "being in a community".

And nothing is more important than community.

 

[Adamska]

Also - and this is honestly kind of amazing - she was actually gullible enough to buy into the narrative that Jace Connors was real and dangerous.

It's not really amazing considering we fell for him too. Not the second half, but the first.

And that's what really gets me about Void; she's been on long enough and in a decent enough environment to know what and what not to do, for years mind you. And she fucked it up to the point where she was kicked off of a website that was so formative to her she felt the need to make her own out of an almost Sweetesque drive to mimic the glory days.

 

[A Random]

Or the beliefs she expresses in this exchange (and no, I don't know what shirt they're talking about):

Back in 2014 scientists managed to land a probe on a comet, or similar very small space landmass. The lead scientist went on the news to talk about it wearing a shirt his best friend [a woman] had made for him.

He got roasted because the shirt was full of sexy women. SJWs went 'NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID COMET YOUR SHIRT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HUMANITY AND ITS SHIT'.

Hopefully things are better for him now.

 

[BlueChan]

Back in 2014 scientists managed to land a probe on a comet, or similar very small space landmass. The lead scientist went on the news to talk about it wearing a shirt his best friend [a woman] had made for him.

He got roasted because the shirt was full of sexy women. SJWs went 'NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID COMET YOUR SHIRT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HUMANITY AND ITS SHIT'.

Hopefully things are better for him now.

I forgot about him - Void had made a fool of herself over that whole controversy beforehand:

For context, this image was titled "The woman who started ShirtStorm was invited to talk at Google Ideas about 'Fighting Online Abuse.'"

Also

And then shit heats up:

1. Add "trying to escape from a conversation when it starts to go in a direction she doesn't like" to the list.
2. I left in the last reply to show that many of the replies on Imgur in general are surprisingly varied - a fair few people agree with her.

Also, some more old ask.fm stuff from her:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-uncomfortable-truths-behind-mens-rights-movement/ It's pretty funny how reading the titles, most of these can apply to feminism.
Yeah, no. Please hang out with normal feminists and stop believing that they are mostly these insane, militant, man-eating straw[wo]men/boogey[wo]men that ~don't actually exist~ in any serious numbers. MRAs/PUAs are *real* and exist in *real* amounts, dude. Insane, man-eating, militant feminists (if they even exist) are rare weirdos that, if they even have any websites/subreddits to congregate in, don't measure up in numbers to the amount of MRAs that exist. Let's go by reddit alone.
/r/theredpill is 54,000+ people.
/r/mensrights has 92,000+ people.
/r/feminism has only 35,000+ peeps subbed.
And I can't even FIND a subreddit for militant feminists so shut the fuck up.

She is weirdly adamant that radical feminists are a tiny minority that don't dwarf actual feminism, but MRAs aren't for some reason.

And predictably, the guy fired back at that last (needlessly rude) statement:

Last one, I promise. I'm also pretty sure that ShitRedditSays is pretty militant. You also act like a militant feminist by simply telling me to "shut the fuck up".
I don't think you know what militant actually means. Are there serious manifestos on here? Death threats on that subreddit? Rape threats? Extreme confrontational methods? Like, y'know, do they send en masse PMs to the bad posters they put on the sub and threaten to hunt them down and hurt them? Do they hate all men, assume they're all bad people? Or do they hate shitty posters? I honestly didn't know ShitRedditSays was anything but people posting the worst comments on reddit and making fun of/complaining about how shitty they are. So "militant" is posting the most deplorable comments of reddit (there's a lot to work with) and (mostly) appropriately bitching and lolling about how shit they are. If that's militant to you, then no wonder me saying "shut the fuck up" at your ridiculous, troll-like opinion is more offensive to you than your ridiculous, troll-like opinions are to me!

So calling out SJW behavior is are "ridiculous, troll-like opinions" now. Alright.

Also also, remember this?

She deactivated her curiouscat.me and ask.fm accounts. The only real loss there is that there was an ask.fm question where she mentioned not talking about dating Chip for a while (months, maybe?) due to the fear of GamerGate.

I found it.

Is it possible to break down a timeline about this intricate Chip Cheezum dating heist you pulled off? Not to be snoopy, honestly, just super impressed by the long game and admiring the finesse to it. - Declan
I don't think it's necessary to know the whole timeline in detail (nor do I remember it in great detail, since it was a gradation between friends and more-than-friends). We started being like "we should date, actually" after my ex had broken up with me. This was during a time when Gam3rG4te was still basically in full swing, so it was a no-brainer and not even a discussion that we had to keep the relationship a secret. Accusations of having fucked pretty much every male I had ever collaborated with over the years (Chip, Bob, Slowbeef, Psych, Tie) were still fresh in my mind, and we didn't feel like dealing with any drama that might arise if I WERE actually dating one of those people. We figured it was (a) too dangerous to be open about at that time without inviting harassment/stalkers, (b) nobody's business anyway, (c) too early in the relationship to announce anything anyway. Like, what if we broke up in 4 months or something cuz long-distance relationships suck?
But, over time, when one's life becomes intertwined with another's, it becomes very difficult to have individual stories. We're always present at each other's stories, so we'd have to decide "Who's tweeting about this? Are we BOTH watching this show at the same time or is that too suspicious? Who's has dibs on this dumb thing that happened?" We'd have to surprisingly react on streams to stories that we knew all about, because we were there when it happened! It felt fake, our stories started getting messed up (ie: The Medieval Times falcon story that I told in an SH2 episode, forgetting Chip had told that story in a podcast months prior), and it was becoming too much work to keep it straight. It's already hard enough not to slip up in streams and call each other "honey" by accident, or not do any PDA stuff at C2E2 (will fans we meet notice we're always sitting next to each other?), or whatever. Plus, with Gextra Life happening soonish, how were we gonna keep our platonic behavior intact for 24 hours - no "honeys", no caring mannerisms, etc? Too difficult. All this, plus the idea of "What if someone finds out an "EXPOSES" us, as if this is a scandal?" pushed us to open up about it. It's not a scandal, but just by virtue hiding it, some drama-thirsty idiot could think it is. We decided it was better to "expose" ourselves on our own terms rather than hope someone else doesn't do it for us. Plus, moving in together is pretty serious, so fuck it, huh?
tl;dr: It was annoying/stressful and not worth doing the facade anymore! We'd rather be ourselves now. Thanks for being cool about it, everyone.

I highly recommend you read through the full thing because it's essentially a whole lot of needless effort spurred by some frankly ridiculous paranoia.

Also interesting is this ask, from September 21st, 2014 (around the time GamerGate began to make its impact):

How has your boyfriend been dealing/helping you deal with these recent harassments?
He's been really kind and patient to me in general with all my emotional goings-on. He was furious at the recent harassments, I've never seen him like that before. He stayed up with me until 4am helping me calm down, document the harassment, etc. He watched an episode of Deep Space 9 with me, too If I didn't have him, I'd probably be in the loony bin. Trying to cope with the loss of my entire former livelihood with the worst breakup of my life... I've had a very tumultuous, hard year that he's helping me through with extreme gentleness and understanding ;-; I don't need to deal with harassment on top of my already fucked up mental health, so I have a zero-tolerance policy for assholes right now.

I can't verify it myself, but I'm fairly certain this is referring to Chip.

Part of the reason I think this is because of another ask (from September 27th):

On a scale of one to ten, how much do you regret starting the Oogie's Revenge LP? Not that we're not enjoying the LP as viewers, but it must be a pain in the ass to record and edit that game.
[...]
I can't put a number on it, cause I can't tell how much of me hating this LP is the game's fault or my fault. I regret the timing of it, which I couldn't have known about. Relatedly, I also regret that I recorded it terribly, not only techwise, but I had to record it under a timelimit, on my ex's computer before he was going to move out and leave my life forever. So I kind of associate the footage with me crying during cutscenes and in between recordings because my life as I knew it was ending and the love of my life was leaving. I did the bossfights and many other things poorly because I didn't have enough time to do any re-records, and I was distraught and sad, so I didn't want to anyway. I associate this whole LP with the worst year in my life, which started the week of Halloween last year and continues to this day. I hope it stops along with the LP.

Keep in mind that she later elaborated that she had previously began to discussing dating with Chip right after her ex left her. (And, on a side note, I honestly do feel for her here - it's certainly awful to have to go through that and try to keep yourself up.)

Speaking of video game feminism, she wasn't fond of Quiet (from MGSV)'s sexualization, and found herself defending her opinion a fair bit.

I'm so torn about you on one hand you stick of for us ladies but on the other hand you are hilariously sex negative.What if women *like*Quiet's outfit(and many do!)? or Quiet? What if there is a reason for it (y'know like how its 1:1 gender swap of naked snake's outfit). That'll just be ignored??
I'm so torn about how people can misinterpret sex negativity this amazingly wrong. Oh no wait, I'm not: I fucking hate it. Let me sum up the many hilarious ways in which you are extremely wrong:
The main gist of being "sex-negative" is shaming REAL people for their sexual choices. I can't believe I have to point this out, but people seem to really not comprehend that QUIET IS NOT A PERSON. SHE IS A PRODUCT, DESIGNED TO APPEAL TO THE PLAYERS OF THE GAME. The End. (The End had a better, more tactical costume though.)
Secondly: Women LIKING A THING doesn't undo its sexism somehow. Why do I have to explain this over and over again. WHY. Why do you make me do this.
Thirdly: Have you even seen Naked Snake? He didn't start the game literally naked you fucking fool, it was referring to his lack of equipment, everything being Procure-On-Sight. Naked Snake was covered head-to-toe in camouflage from the instant he landed in Russia. Remember how he jumped out of a plane in like negative 30 degree temperatures? Yeah um you need CLOTHES for that so they gave him clothes. Tactical clothes for a reason. I'm like 99% sure there will NOT be a logical, tactical reason for Quiet to be Jiggle Physics: The Character and will be SUPER SURPRISED if there is some sort of secret obscure military reason for snipers to wear bikinis.
Conflating Sex Negativity with "Hating Hilariously Blatant Objectification" is fucking absurd and I hate you.
Feel free to get off the "I'm torn" fence now, because you hate me for calling you out on not knowing what the christ you're even talking about. "I'm torn!! I'm torn because on the one hand: you stick up for "us ladies" (the ones that exist in reality and are thinking, breathing human beings), but you critique the objectified fictional ones designed by creepy dudes! Those are clearly on the same level on importance and mean the same thing!" lmao i'm dead

This is only one of many, many needlessly long and vitriolic responses to fairly temperately-phrased questions.

Speaking of which, remember when she got inordinately pissy at someone who called out Zoe Quinn as kind of an awful person? There's more to that:

i've talked about both clinton's several times on tumblr vb. stop justifying cheaters theyre not good people. so if a man cheated on you would you be ok with it?
Oh how silly of me I should have visited AnonymousAskFmShithead.tumblr.com and checked up on your background before tearing down your shitty justification. Also, did you notice that all of those celebrity examples I provided except ONE were all men cheating? You're so good at reading, I bet whatever you've written on AnonymousAskFmShithead.tumblr.com is fabulous. And you're also SO good at reading, that you think I'm endorsing cheating/saying cheaters are good folks instead of condemning the public tarring and feathering of cheaters, the ruining of professional lives due to dirty laundry and personal, private mistakes/decisions that have no bearing on the rest of the world. But, shit! You've written things on tumblr! So I guess you win and that girl you hate definitely deserves to be scared for her life for almost an entire year because she cheated on someone and you and your ilk decided it was your duty to punish her for it. Cool beans!

Void approaches peak insufferable here.

It ends with this (atypically short) back and forth:

my first girlfriend cheated on me with my sister. guess i deserved it because the pastriarchy and shit thanks void
No wonder you don't wanna go after cheaters on Maury, it hits too close to home

Also, someone called her out for falling for the "Jace is totally a danger guys" hoax, and she replied with a lame sort of "no, you!" comeback:

With the Gamestop smash tourney and "deagle" car crash hoaxes, it would probably be best to wait a few weeks to remark on sensationalist stories like this for if they come up as bunk.
With people always asking me non-questions on ask.fm suggesting various ways I should change the way I behave online, I think it's best that YOU make me some pancakes or something instead of doing what you just did. That way at least I'd be happy because I'd have some pancakes.

"I don't have to change shit!", Jessica remarked as people proved that not changing the way she does shit won't reflect well on her.

And just to clarify, she seems willing to call out Anita Sarkeesian & Johnathan McIntosh's shit (IDK if they're still friends; the tweets I posted last time were from late 2014, while this is from early 2015):

What's your opinion of Anita Sarkeesian and Jonathan Mcintosh's criticisms of the Doom trailer? Do you agree with them?
I don't keep up with those guys, but i saw someone else post their tweets and they seemed pretty dumb and bad to me!

This post is already getting way too long so I'll wrap it up this amazing quote (emphasis added):

Thank you for being public with your views on feminist issues. I consider myself a feminist, but you've shown me how far we still have to go. When it's all too easy to find support for extreme positions on the internet, how can one spur meaningful discussion on issues like these? - mocliamtoh‎
No prob, thanks for your kind words. I just hope I don't come off as militant, but people seem to really enjoy pretending I am and putting me in that box I feel like it's a "know your audience" thing. I'm not a militant feminist, I'm what I consider to be a normal feminist. If I'm being yelled at by someone who has chosen to believe I'm militant (hate men, want women placed above men, think men are useless and beastly creatures that do nothing but rape), I don't think it's worth talking to them because they've not only made up their minds about the topic, but they've also made up their minds about the kind of person I am, and it's very much wrong. There's almost no way to have a reasonable conversation with someone who is only looking to be very angry. If a person has come out of the clear blue sky (doesn't know me, follow me on twitter, etc) to yell at me for being a "dumb cunt," I have no obligation to participate in that, and there's basically no way that's going to be a normal conversation where people can learn from each other.I think just talking about stuff and also listening to/conversing with people who aren't in this to be enraged is pretty much all you can do. Feminists aren't out to convert militant anti-fems or whatever. Aiming at the average person who's simply never really thought about this stuff is probably the best way to have meaningful discussion. Being approachable and funny and respectful is probably the best way to have meaningful conversations about anything! You can disagree with peeps without calling names, calling rank ("I have a degree in this opinion-based, nuanced thing and your opinion is wrong forever and I intend to YELL AT YOU UNTIL YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND!"), or being a general nasty person I don't want to talk to.

Yes, you heard that right.

You can disagree with peeps without calling names

(archive)

or being a generally nasty person

I could go on all day.

 

[Tonberry]

"I'm what I like to consider a normal feminist" -VoidBurger

What Jessica fails to understand is that you simply can't look at any movement involving people from all over the world expecting to label them as either a friendly community of smiling devs and journalists getting along or a bunch of spiteful, hateful, asinine creatures according to which side shares your views. When it comes to GeeGees versus Anti-GeeGees, both sides have good intentions, both sides think they're right, and both sides have a whole bunch of idiots fucking shit up. (Guess which paragraph of this post that idiot is going to completely ignore)

Her tendency to see everything in simple black and white terms and write huge text walls whenever someone disagrees with her, as well as her stupidity and immaturity in general, are just a few reasons why it's just so damn entertaining to watch this retard fumble around the internet.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Her tendency to see everything in simple black and white terms and write huge text walls whenever someone disagrees with her

Judge me by my intentions. I can't be expected to get everything correct 100% of the time, and of course I don't know everything and have to act and make choices dependent on the limited information and analysis I have access to. Maybe I don't always do what makes everyone happy, but I'm trying to do the right thing and that is the important thing. I know what my own intentions are better than all of you do.

Judge everyone else by their actions - they do things I don't like because they're bad people. It's not possible that they see the world differently than I do; they know what's right just like I do and the only explanation for their choice to resist me is because they're evil and want to hurt innocents. I know what your intentions are better than all of you do.

 

[proteus4994]

Nobody ever thought she slept with Psych or slowbeef (can't speak for the others). Especially slowbeef, that guy has been happily married for a long ass time. God damn that's arrogant.

 

[Ravana]

Rather, everyone simply has higher standards than shovelface

 

[Lackadaisy]

#FreeChip