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General Patton said:
I wish more men would say beautiful romantic things like in Shakespeare.
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Have you read Shakespeare's sonnets? I used to write them and read a lot of his for inspiration, and they were generally pretty biting and bitter. Damn if they aren't incredible, you can really only appreciate how good poetry is when you write it yourself, especially the same type.
 
LovisXVI said:
Have you read Shakespeare's sonnets? I used to write them and read a lot of his for inspiration, and they were generally pretty biting and bitter. Damn if they aren't incredible, you can really only appreciate how good poetry is when you write it yourself, especially the same type.
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True, but the greatest way to win me over is if some guy gave me the "never saw true beauty" bit to me. Hell yes, though. I love creative men who write poetry, or write at all.
 
General Patton said:
True, but the greatest way to win me over is if some guy gave me the "never saw true beauty" bit to me. Hell yes, though. I love creative men who write poetry, or write at all.
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Since I don't publish my private poetry (publically) and I would be very surprised if she used Kiwi Farms, especially this thread, I can post one of my favorite stanzas I have written for romantic poetry (as opposed to more devotional religious topics), without fear of PLing.
But beauty is not thy greatest feature,
When thy piety is beyond compare.
A height of faith in the human creature
'Tis that truth pure which caught me in a snare
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LovisXVI said:
Since I don't publish my private poetry (publically) and I would be very surprised if she used Kiwi Farms, especially this thread, I can post one of my favorite stanzas I have written for romantic poetry (as opposed to more devotional religious topics), without fear of PLing.
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I admire anyone who can write some beautiful poetry. It's not the kind of writing I'm good at. If I'm going to talk about the kind of men I'm into, I like the writer type and people who read and write poems or stories. I've never been attracted to masculine men or whatever I should call them. Actually, too much machismo in a man is a huge turn off for me. Probably because most of the ones I met were jerks, lol.
 
General Patton said:
I admire anyone who can write some beautiful poetry. It's not the kind of writing I'm good at. If I'm going to talk about the kind of men I'm into, I like the writer type and people who read and write poems or stories. I've never been attracted to masculine men or whatever I should call them. Actually, too much machismo in a man is a huge turn off for me. Probably because most of the ones I met were jerks, lol.
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Never done me any good, but I will keep writing this garbage (when the inspiration strikes me) because I believe in beautiful things for their own sake.
 
I'm not sure how well men respond to that sort of romantic, sentimental writing in general. Not that I think it's necessarily a personal failing, but I don't believe they're wired for that in the same way women are (same reason why, as discussed in the kink thread, women consume porn in a much more self-insertive way as opposed to men who are more likely to view it 'from a distance'.) My rock solid evidence being that I've sent two honest-to-goodness love letters in my life (stamp, envelope, and everything) to two men I was reasonably certain were bisexual and boyfriend-free, and both times it ended very poorly for me. But go on online dating and start sending pickle pics and suddenly everyone wants to chat
 
synthetic_glazer said:
I'm not sure how well men respond to that sort of romantic, sentimental writing in general. Not that I think it's necessarily a personal failing, but I don't believe they're wired for that in the same way women are (same reason why, as discussed in the kink thread, women consume porn in a much more self-insertive way as opposed to men who are more likely to view it 'from a distance'.) My rock solid evidence being that I've sent two honest-to-goodness love letters in my life (stamp, envelope, and everything) to two men I was reasonably certain were bisexual and boyfriend-free, and both times it ended very poorly for me. But go on online dating and start sending pickle pics and suddenly everyone wants to chat
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I think most people of either sex are simply not equipped to deal with that kind of emotional sincerity.
 
LovisXVI said:
Never done me any good, but I will keep writing this garbage (when the inspiration strikes me) because I believe in beautiful things for their own sake.
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This kind of reminds me of conversations I used to get into where women said they love guys like Tom Hardy or Henry Cavill. My replies to them were always "I can't stand muscular men" and that I actually prefer the opposite, and they'd act shocked that I didn't want some muscular steroid looking man.

LovisXVI said:
I think most people of either sex are simply not equipped to deal with that kind of emotional sincerity.
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I am. I wish more men would be like that tbh.
 
Despite writing like a true ESL mongoloid, I also enjoy perusing through poems and classic stories. I think my two favorite poems are definitely Coleridge's The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner and The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner by Randall Jarrell. I'm also big into horror writers from the 20th century, like Arthur Machen, Lovecraft and his entire clique or William Hope Hodgson for the naval twist.
synthetic_glazer said:
My rock solid evidence being that I've sent two honest-to-goodness love letters in my life (stamp, envelope, and everything) to two men I was reasonably certain were bisexual and boyfriend-free, and both times it ended very poorly for me.
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If you haven't already, I hope you find that special someone to end your lovequest. The same goes for all of you ! :heart-full:

'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
 
ReeTardSavant said:
My partner actually wrote me a cute love letter back in the day. I still have it almost a decade later. :)
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That's sweet. Sometimes I like to look at old love letters people in history wrote to their husbands and wives. They did used to do that.
 
synthetic_glazer said:
I'm not sure how well men respond to that sort of romantic, sentimental writing in general. Not that I think it's necessarily a personal failing, but I don't believe they're wired for that in the same way women are (same reason why, as discussed in the kink thread, women consume porn in a much more self-insertive way as opposed to men who are more likely to view it 'from a distance'.) My rock solid evidence being that I've sent two honest-to-goodness love letters in my life (stamp, envelope, and everything) to two men I was reasonably certain were bisexual and boyfriend-free, and both times it ended very poorly for me. But go on online dating and start sending pickle pics and suddenly everyone wants to chat
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I've written letters and poems to both men and women, and in my extremely limited experience, the men (er, man) actually appreciated it more. He would carry his favorite letter from me around in his wallet, which made me feel like a million bucks. That was probably an outlier, though. This was also a long time ago, when dick pics were something unusual, like a stalker in a trench coat would leave on your doorstep, and not, like, a handshake.
 
synthetic_glazer said:
My rock solid evidence being that I've sent two honest-to-goodness love letters in my life (stamp, envelope, and everything)
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Honestly love letters just I don't know if I am too autistic or not autistic enough for that. Writing out all your feelings and being so direct is just not something I could do. For me to be that direct with someone I would already need to be already close enough that it would just be obvious already. Admittedly literally everyone I've dated it's kinda just been yea we're friends and then suddenly oh yea we're friends and also fucking. There's never been some sort of dramatic omg I love you please be with me type shit. It's just kinda happened without saying anything.
 
I like the idea of a nice poem or letter, but for me it always felt forced or insincere, especially these days where can you feed something similar into the LLM and have it spit out scripted slop, BUT if hit the right notes it could be a home run. Going on a trip with me to my favorite places and putting up with my interests however will get you more mileage than a letter ever could.
 
femboy fart huffer said:
Honestly love letters just I don't know if I am too autistic or not autistic enough for that. Writing out all your feelings and being so direct is just not something I could do. For me to be that direct with someone I would already need to be already close enough that it would just be obvious already. Admittedly literally everyone I've dated it's kinda just been yea we're friends and then suddenly oh yea we're friends and also fucking. There's never been some sort of dramatic omg I love you please be with me type shit. It's just kinda happened without saying anything.
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For me, I'm not good at talking to people in person, and I don't do well with short form communication like text or snapchat. Admittedly, I was almost certainly doing it wrong in that it was my first major olive branch towards them, like "hi, I'm synthetic_glazer, I think you're really cool for these reasons. Here's some information about me and what I value. I would like to get to know you better." My thought is that it's a gesture of devotion and trust. It's trivial to send a text, but to send a whole letter and walk it to the post box on my own two legs? That's more meaningful. And a letter, once its sent, is out of my control. I know the other person could show it to their friends and laugh, or post it online, or whatever, but I'm showing I trust them enough with my feelings not to do that.

I've never been a fan of the Sweetheart from the Ground-Up approach. Obviously, if you're friends with someone and develop feelings for them after the fact, that's different, but going into a friendship with the intention of trying to turn it into a romantic relationship feels dirty to me, since the friendship is being built on ulterior motives, and when you do ultimately try to turn it into a romantic relationship, the entire friendship could collapse if it goes south. And imagining it from the reverse perspective, if I found out a friend of mine was trying to be my friend just because he wanted a relationship and not friendship, I'd feel uncomfortable. Not necessarily mad, per se, but uncomfortable.
 
synthetic_glazer said:
but going into a friendship with the intention of trying to turn it into a romantic relationship feels dirty to me
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I mean how else are you meant to figure out if you like someone enough to want to date them? It's not going in to a friendship with the intention of dating, it's just being open to maybe more than friendship. Trying to find a partner always just felt dumb. Most of the time it didn't feel like dating someone because you want to be with them but more dating someone in the hope that by dating them you will then want to be with them.
 
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