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synthetic_glazer said:
To be fair, that's not especially scientific reasoning. My own personal experience has led me to the opposite conclusion for instance, but I also know that there's an infinity of other factors throughout life that make it impossible to know for sure. Granted, I don't think there's any possible way to test whether the molestation theory holds true without some truly despicable John Money behavior and a time machine, since no one could really say for certain that "if this did/didn't happen in the past then I would/wouldn't be gay." I don't believe all gays have been molested/assaulted/raped during their childhood because obviously that's insane and unrealistic, but to say there's absolutely no link based on 'personal experience' seems wrong to me, especially since there is generally proven to be a link between early exposure to porn/sexuality and other development outcomes
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id say the molestation angle would have a better chance of changing how aggressively gay the person is not if they are gay or not.
 
Riftrunner said:
For me it probably happened the same way my 'tism happened: just born with it. There's a theory that, for a mother who has multiple boys, the youngest is more likely to turn out gay. My sample size of one confirms this.

/pol/tards repeat this claim as though it's akin to saying water is wet and yet if I or anybody else bothers to point out it's entirely false based on our own personal experiences, they just fall back onto some other bigotry. The claim that "homosexuals procreate through molestation" is particularly heinous given anyone who truly believes this must also believe every gay man is a budding pedophile.

fuck sickos

Can you please give me a detailed explanation for why you like dicks? 4 paragraphs minimum.
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>"my tism"
>furry avatar

we can tell.
Riftrunner said:
The claim that "homosexuals procreate through molestation" is particularly heinous given anyone who truly believes this must also believe every gay man is a budding pedophile.
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I don't doubt the believe that. Somewhat similar to this site and MTFs.
General Zoider said:
id say the molestation angle would have a better chance of changing how aggressively gay the person is not if they are gay or not.
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What if you are straight an molested then? Actually we already knows what (often) happens with women who compensate by becoming hypersexual but what if you are a straight male and get molested? Is the hypersexuality just judged as dudebro behavior?
souschef said:
Very common in hookup apps, especially those that won't particularly require faces and names. Common good sense will tell people to stay away from those
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I don't know if it's different in the gay scene but don't most people meetup at a cafe or something to gauge each other first? Or maybe I'm just too autistic to hookup with a stranger.

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Riftrunner said:
If someone is dating and their goal is a real relationship, it's not so universal to have sex on the first date. If you want to go out there and bang sluts, there's already a whole slew of whores who will open their legs after a couple drinks so long as you don't look like a serial killer.

Gay men aren't as bothered and would fuck the serial killer phenotype on the first date.
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You call the women sluts like they're any lesser than guys just wanting to get laid.
 
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a kiwifarms user said:
As a heterosexual woman the excitement for someone being visibly aroused by you is relatable and you will find plenty women sharing the same sentiment if you know where to look. Unfortunately if a woman had written this here she'd be slut shamed by the men and called a handmaid by the women.
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This is sensible. It's important to note the context in which both take place; women, you see, are incapable of generating the level of intense connection that two men can create. With men, it's two minds engaged in a spirited dance; both a battle, and a serene escape from reality. Like a firestarter, two stiff rods can be rubbed together to create a roaring fire, in which a deeper understanding of life, philosophy, and nature can be forged. A male on male relationship encompasses that which makes humanity great; the exploration of the unknown, testing the boundaries of power and speed,

A women simply cannot view a man in the same way; thus, she is denigrated. A woman looking at a man is sort of like a dog looking at a television; the dog can see the TV, it can react to it, it may be intrigued by it, yet, the dog cannot have a full conceptualization of what is happening on the screen. It does not understand that it views a mere reflection, a simulacrum of the male without true perception and comprehension of the underlying forces at play.

Such a 'woman' is called 'slut' or 'dumb whore retard bitch' because they inherently lack that which makes the connection two men are capable of creating; the primal force, the motive, in layman's terms, a soul - in which to grind against the other, to generate the spark of intuition unknown to such creatures. This is also why the idea of two women having sex is so ridiculous; it's just velcro on velcro, all you're gonna get is friction.
 
a kiwifarms user said:
I don't know if it's different in the gay scene but don't most people meetup at a cafe or something to gauge each other first? Or maybe I'm just too autistic to hookup with a stranger.
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On Tinder? Absolutely. Because there's a face, name and socials linked to it. Grindr is a different ball game. Grindr is an app for perverts. Grindr is for people that think it's totally fine to invite someone who you don't even know how he looks like to go to your house to fuck you. Needless to say, this is a very very bad idea, but perverts aren't known for having good ideas
 
Riftrunner said:
The claim that "homosexuals procreate through molestation" is particularly heinous given anyone who truly believes this must also believe every gay man is a budding pedophile.
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A lot of gay/bi men are pedophiles, probably about half of them honestly. Look at the beauty standard for men for gays (not just now but throughout all history): it's being a twink (also the top gay porn genre in most of the world too iirc). Twinks are supposed to look underage hence the concept of twink death when men start developing more adult features. Most straight men at least like tits or ass which are adult features, what adult features does a twink have?

IMO molestation can change your sexual orientation but it goes both ways so you might turn straight too
 
ilovecornsyrup said:
A lot of gay/bi men are pedophiles, probably about half of them honestly. Look at the beauty standard for men for gays (not just now but throughout all history): it's being a twink (also the top gay porn genre in most of the world too iirc). Twinks are supposed to look underage hence the concept of twink death when men start developing more adult features. Most straight men at least like tits or ass which are adult features, what adult features does a twink have?

IMO molestation can change your sexual orientation but it goes both ways so you might turn straight too
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About half of straights are pedophiles, just look how popular the "teen" tag is on porn sites

See how retarded you sound like when you base your argument on pornography?
 
Fishnumm said:
the teen tag is disgusting the sicko who thought that up should have been whipped a long time ago
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Not to mention the "stepdaughter" shit. There's tons of freaky shit on the porn industry (that is 95% dedicated to straight men), but there's always some retard willing to use porn to make his hot takes against gay people
 
souschef said:
Not to mention the "stepdaughter" shit. There's tons of freaky shit on the porn industry (that is 95% dedicated to straight men), but there's always some retard willing to use porn to make his hot takes against gay people
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there is that straight to gay shit on porn to be fair but yeah most of the worst excesses of porn are for straight people
 
synthetic_glazer said:
I don't believe all gays have been molested/assaulted/raped during their childhood
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I just don't get how that would work. Ok yea so I had this massively traumatic experience in my childhood so I want to recreate that as an adult? If you got raped by a woman I could understand it. I guess there probably is some sort of wanting to reclaim and overcome shit or maybe being wired to expect that as normal though. Idk. I mean how would that work for me? Do I have to get half raped as a kid? Is that when you don't put the balls in? Or did I get the mmf threesome middle sandwich raped?

For me I think it was a combination of a few things. I don't think it will ever be possible to actually say because I simply think that brains are too complex to break down in this very x causes y manner and a lot of the time it is retroactively applying current feelings to something that wasn't there in the past. But I had an incredibly close male friend throughout most of primary school and for the first year or two of secondary but we were in different classes and ended up kinda drifting apart. Then at the roughly the same time my childhood crush (female) got changed out of our class in the last subject we were together in and she also started dating this guy who I kinda hated in general really, both of those made me less interested in her. I then also get changed out in another class to be back with my best mate from primary school and kinda want to go straight back to being best mates. That combined with it being the height of puberty. I think something in my brain kinda took the feelings I had lost for the girl and then got them fucked up with the desire to rekindle the friendship with the guy and ended up being like damn you should have sex with this guy. So like instead of just losing interest in the girl and those feelings disappearing they got redirected at the guy. But I still had a crush on the girl too. Then I went on to date a girl that as much as I loved her she was I wouldn't say masculine but somewhat tomboyish, not enough to be a tomboy but enough that if you said to someone she was tomboyish they would instantly understand what you mean.

But I didn't feel that though. The only thing I felt was changing class and then being like oh yea this guy's kinda cute. The reasoning and shit is entirely retroactive for almost two decades ago now. Basically I had some retarded rebound from a woman into a man then back into a woman. And that kinda continued actually. I have never dated two men or women in a row. It's all man - woman - man - woman and so on.
 
synthetic_glazer said:
I don't believe all gays have been molested/assaulted/raped
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I thought it was more of a brain thing or something.

Fishnumm said:
i can tell you from experience it didnt make me gay

though my experience was more like sexual assault i guess
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Same. And it didn't make me scared of men, and it didn't make me suddenly want women. I realized I liked girls and guys when I was like- 16.
 
souschef said:
Are you aware that girls develop breasts before adulthood? Just admit you made a retarded statement and move on
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At the very least it's a pubescent feature. What features do boys develop during puberty that homosexual men find attractive about twinks? Name one please.
Facial/body hair? No
Muscular physique? No
Broad chest and shoulders? No
Pubic hair? No

souschef said:
There's tons of freaky shit on the porn industry (that is 95% dedicated to straight men), but there's always some retard willing to use porn to make his hot takes against gay people
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I didn't want to use real-life examples so I used porn. We can take a look at prostitution, look at what age male prostitutes "lose value" (20s) compared to female prostitutes (40s). Look at how many boys are disproportionately molested compared to how many homosexual men there are. Look at the attention teenage boys get in gay bars and how no one bats an eye compared to if 50 year old men started creeping on teen girls. I've experienced and seen this shit firsthand FFS.

I am willing to admit that A LOT of straight men are pedophiles as well. Straight women complain about that all the time, but for some reason it's taboo to make the same point about gay men.
 
General Patton said:
And it didn't make me scared of men, and it didn't make me suddenly want women. I realized I liked girls and guys when I was like- 16.
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Late bloomer. I was ogling my taekwondo instructor when i was like 12 lmao

ilovecornsyrup said:
Facial/body hair? No
Muscular physique? No
Broad chest and shoulders? No
Pubic hair? No
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Nigger, are you seriously gonna insist on this? You're grasping at straws at this point
 
souschef said:
About half of straights are pedophiles, just look how popular the "teen" tag is on porn sites
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Remember when I made this point before, because men tend to marry women to get to their children...which is well known, and the guy tried to twist my words around?

Yeah, straight pedos do that a lot. They target single women, marry them, and then sexually abuse their sons and daughters. Pedophile men are attracted to children. They will go after both sexes.

ilovecornsyrup said:
I didn't want to use real-life examples so I used porn.
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And this is a perfect example of why watching porn all the time fucks with people's development and brains. You applied something like pornography to real life events...all done unironically.
ilovecornsyrup said:
Look at how many boys are disproportionately molested
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Girls get molested a lot too. This is retarded.
ilovecornsyrup said:
I've experienced and seen this shit firsthand FFS.
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Your experience=watching porn.
ilovecornsyrup said:
Straight women complain about that all the time, but for some reason it's taboo to make the same point about gay men.
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I've seen gay men call out creepy gay men who prey on younger people.

Your entire argument is retarded and extremely biased.

Once again, a lot of the time, pedophiles are attracted to CHILDREN. They will sexually abuse either sex. Because what they are attracted to are children.
 
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souschef said:
Nigger, are you seriously gonna insist on this? You're grasping at straws at this point
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I don't want to argue with anyone. I know my view of gay men is biased so I wanted someone to challenge this view of them. If I wanted to I could call everyone here a faggot and leave and this would be it.
 
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