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Oh no, no no. If I'm going to give credit to the best gay sketches ever done by a comedy group, I will tip my hat to Scott Thompson from Kids In The Hall, who is actually gay.
Orcinus Orca
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Why did you dox yourself
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What about eating while fucking? Maybe have a charcuterie board positioned next to you, the salt should help when working up a sweat.
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As comedian Greg Giraldo said:
"Edible underwear?... even during sex, we can't stop eating."
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I like the way you think. A real aristocratic man indeed
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Grossest thing you've ever said
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Theodore H.
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Hello, LGBTQiwis. Medium-time lurker, first time I am going to get called a "newfag." Over the past month or so, I have been watching this thread with a mild curiosity, and wanted to ask the residents of this thread some questions about their experiences. I decided to create and use an account for a week or two, and then take my leave to continue my life elsewhere.
The first thing I wanted to ask about is the "troon epidemic" that is talked about in places like the "Stinkditch" subforum, or the more general politics threads: where is it? I understand that this may sound like bait, but I am very serious. Where do these people congregate? Have I simply managed to miss them?
The way trans people are described in the modern day on those threads (such as "When did you hit peak trans and why?"), it feels as if I am reading into some alternate universe nightmare dimension, where every single trans-identifying person is publicly flapping their genitalia into the wind and screeching epithets at people when a mistake is made; going out in dresses and beards and tacky transgender socks and screaming "IT'S MA'AM," as the meme goes.
It feels ill-advised for my first post on Kiwi Farms to be mild powerleveling, but for the sake of discussion I need to state that because of my interests and where those interests congregate I am in a few Discord servers with a statistical overrepresentation of transgender people compared to the general population. Within those servers, the experiences I have had do not reflect these written testimonials in the slightest. Even in terms of the actual transgender issues they do not resemble the nightmare dimension of the "Stinkditch" threads where everybody is lying about how transition is awesome; they discuss the pros and more importantly cons of medication, social transition and presentation; and when to do those things, why to do it and not to do it; and they do not force this onto the people who disagree with the trans prescription, "it is your personal experience." I have met a few of those community members in real life, and they are simply kind people trying their best to make it while also being trans, and are pleasant to be around.
At the same time, I am not blind to some of the worst things I have seen in my lurking. While I think applying the "autogynophilliac" or "transtrender" label to every trans-feminine person is inherently a waste of time, as ultimately you cannot get into their head to verify, I am not going to deny that I can understand in some cases.
The kerfuffle with Keffals' Catboy Ranch and the "pinkpilling" claim of bobposting/"keep out of reach of parents" position of Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals, simply put, make me cringe. I do not hold any ill will for a minor that happens to use that service, it is unfortunate circumstance, but if you have a business that relies on the concept of "hello, kids, buy drugs from me without your parent's knowledge," then I question the ethics of the person behind that. I have also seen the communities that implode because of protecting predators and I recognize that some of those people are LGBTQ+ and get to their victim because of the victim's LGBTQ+ identity. Maybe that's also part of it, in my communities the few people that have unfortunately qualified have been kicked out the door immediately when the evidence of doing "shit with minors" was verified. I have a low tolerance for predatory behavior, which I hope is a normal trait.
Perhaps that is my problem? I have never been one for labels or the "LGBTQ+ community" writ large, and prioritize somebody being a pleasant person with a clean record (moderately, of course we all screw up) over them being LGBTQ. Is it that everybody of the "publicly flapping their genitalia into the wind" type gathers in places where the community is being LGBTQ first, and then an interested person?
The first thing I wanted to ask about is the "troon epidemic" that is talked about in places like the "Stinkditch" subforum, or the more general politics threads: where is it? I understand that this may sound like bait, but I am very serious. Where do these people congregate? Have I simply managed to miss them?
The way trans people are described in the modern day on those threads (such as "When did you hit peak trans and why?"), it feels as if I am reading into some alternate universe nightmare dimension, where every single trans-identifying person is publicly flapping their genitalia into the wind and screeching epithets at people when a mistake is made; going out in dresses and beards and tacky transgender socks and screaming "IT'S MA'AM," as the meme goes.
It feels ill-advised for my first post on Kiwi Farms to be mild powerleveling, but for the sake of discussion I need to state that because of my interests and where those interests congregate I am in a few Discord servers with a statistical overrepresentation of transgender people compared to the general population. Within those servers, the experiences I have had do not reflect these written testimonials in the slightest. Even in terms of the actual transgender issues they do not resemble the nightmare dimension of the "Stinkditch" threads where everybody is lying about how transition is awesome; they discuss the pros and more importantly cons of medication, social transition and presentation; and when to do those things, why to do it and not to do it; and they do not force this onto the people who disagree with the trans prescription, "it is your personal experience." I have met a few of those community members in real life, and they are simply kind people trying their best to make it while also being trans, and are pleasant to be around.
At the same time, I am not blind to some of the worst things I have seen in my lurking. While I think applying the "autogynophilliac" or "transtrender" label to every trans-feminine person is inherently a waste of time, as ultimately you cannot get into their head to verify, I am not going to deny that I can understand in some cases.
The kerfuffle with Keffals' Catboy Ranch and the "pinkpilling" claim of bobposting/"keep out of reach of parents" position of Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals, simply put, make me cringe. I do not hold any ill will for a minor that happens to use that service, it is unfortunate circumstance, but if you have a business that relies on the concept of "hello, kids, buy drugs from me without your parent's knowledge," then I question the ethics of the person behind that. I have also seen the communities that implode because of protecting predators and I recognize that some of those people are LGBTQ+ and get to their victim because of the victim's LGBTQ+ identity. Maybe that's also part of it, in my communities the few people that have unfortunately qualified have been kicked out the door immediately when the evidence of doing "shit with minors" was verified. I have a low tolerance for predatory behavior, which I hope is a normal trait.
Perhaps that is my problem? I have never been one for labels or the "LGBTQ+ community" writ large, and prioritize somebody being a pleasant person with a clean record (moderately, of course we all screw up) over them being LGBTQ. Is it that everybody of the "publicly flapping their genitalia into the wind" type gathers in places where the community is being LGBTQ first, and then an interested person?
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Like with a lot of people there is good and bad with every group. There are some horrible gay men. There are some white people I've met that should be stuffed into gas chambers. And yes there definitely some shit tier trans people as seen in the Stinkditch department here. But like you, most of my personal experiences with trans people have been fairly positive they are the kind people trying their best to make it while also being trans, and are pleasant to be around that you've encountered. Just like the rest of LGBT etc its when they make it their whole identity that they become a public nuisance
I take people as they find them except for paedophiles Islamists and Palestards, I hate and despise those groups passsionately
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1. The Stinkditch threads show spergy/horrid posts or actions of troons to laugh at. Naturally, those troons represented tend to be more spergy/horrid.
2. Public face =/= private face. Also, tell me what behavior would cross the line for you.
3. I've yet to find a single troon that didn't flip their shit when I refused to play the pronoun game.
4. Suprise question: Are you a troon? I'd just like to know because your choice of words give me 'tism vibes.
Honestly, I couldn't care less if you want to chop off your dick or tits. However, I don't want to pay for your procedure with my tax money (which is theft) and I want to reserve the right to freely disassociate myself from you.
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This is where they are. Although tbh I am only friends with one and they're pretty chill to me. They never mention being trans to me.
This is why I have a rule. If a trans person respects me and treats me well, I will do the same.
I have no issues with them because the few I met have been cool and don't like to act like assholes when they have been cool around me.
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I miss believing that people only use this term ironically. No, people really do admit to being on the hunt for "boy pussy," which makes me feel a bit too much like I'm living in a John Waters movie.
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Nah there's certainly assholes that are more boy pussy than man ass. There are just assholes that are more fuckable than others.
Theodore H.
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Thank you for your replies. I will get to the others, but I wanted to respond to the one I had the most to say about first:
(They probably weren't going to associate themselves with you anyway, right? Are there trans people in your life that have tried to... claw you back to them, or something of the sort?)
I understand as much. My question is more where these groups congregate at all. Perhaps I just live in my own bubble of the world, as everybody else does, but it is patterns of behavior that seem alien to me, on both sides of the aisle.
I believe it important to have faith that somebody's public face is intertwined with their private character until shown or demonstrated otherwise, for the sake of not devolving every interpersonal discussion into a twisted game of Mafia, prodding at people's internals for signs of their "real personality." That being said, strictly based on known facts I cannot refute your claim that all of the trans people I know are secretly all irresponsible predators. (With the benefit of, well, knowing them, I have my doubts that they are, a sentiment you will simply have to take at my word.)
I am going to assume you mean the behavior question in the context of their discussions related to being transgender. If you do not mean that, then I apologize.
My line would be when it becomes directly coercion, or "pinkpilling," pressuring people into feeling like they have to be trans above all other reasoning for potential feelings. There are many reasons for why you may feel a certain way, and it is not up to anybody but the individual to de-obfuscate feelings and symptoms on their own terms. I would have the same problem if somebody prescribed any other condition onto somebody else in the same way.
It would also cross a line if somebody was directly lying about the benefits of the trans experience by omitting the cons of the trans experience, but I will claim this falls under pinkpilling.
(This does not include "being happy while trans", posting selfies and pictures and the like. That is something that I think people could potentially construe as omitting the cons by showcasing the pros, but is substantively different. It is somebody enjoying their life while happening to also be trans, which I do not have a problem with.)
An honorable mention is the "going into #general and posting about girls" maneuver, which could cross a line by simply going against annoying spam rules, and in enough volume I do find it annoying. I suppose I would find anybody routinely and constantly posting "I LOVE WOMEN" over others annoying even if they were straight as an arrow, however.
In other words, if people are directly lying to a noticeable degree or coercing people into doing something against their better judgement, or being overwhelmingly annoying. I find this to be a reasonable and rational line.
(No, asking other people to use their preferred pronouns is not "lying" or "coercing people into doing something against their better judgement," it is asking for you to respect their identity. I know that if I do not state this, somebody will try and use it as a cheap "gotcha.")
I am going to assume you mean the behavior question in the context of their discussions related to being transgender. If you do not mean that, then I apologize.
My line would be when it becomes directly coercion, or "pinkpilling," pressuring people into feeling like they have to be trans above all other reasoning for potential feelings. There are many reasons for why you may feel a certain way, and it is not up to anybody but the individual to de-obfuscate feelings and symptoms on their own terms. I would have the same problem if somebody prescribed any other condition onto somebody else in the same way.
It would also cross a line if somebody was directly lying about the benefits of the trans experience by omitting the cons of the trans experience, but I will claim this falls under pinkpilling.
(This does not include "being happy while trans", posting selfies and pictures and the like. That is something that I think people could potentially construe as omitting the cons by showcasing the pros, but is substantively different. It is somebody enjoying their life while happening to also be trans, which I do not have a problem with.)
An honorable mention is the "going into #general and posting about girls" maneuver, which could cross a line by simply going against annoying spam rules, and in enough volume I do find it annoying. I suppose I would find anybody routinely and constantly posting "I LOVE WOMEN" over others annoying even if they were straight as an arrow, however.
In other words, if people are directly lying to a noticeable degree or coercing people into doing something against their better judgement, or being overwhelmingly annoying. I find this to be a reasonable and rational line.
(No, asking other people to use their preferred pronouns is not "lying" or "coercing people into doing something against their better judgement," it is asking for you to respect their identity. I know that if I do not state this, somebody will try and use it as a cheap "gotcha.")
Well, that is to be expected to some degree, is it not? A refusal to play the "pronoun game," genuine or not, will feel "trollish" as a deliberate act of non-support, and people are going to react in a got trolled way. Perhaps you have simply played the troll card on the people who will make a big deal about the trolls. (Not to say your behavior is not genuine, but to the trans person it will seem trollish, inherently, since you are going out of your way to do so.)
I cannot comment that much on this statement - I find playing the pronoun game to be quite easy, no instruction manual required, so I have never seen firsthand how the people in my life react to this. At worst I have been politely nudged and corrected when I say the wrong pronouns, and I apologize and use the correct ones. It's never a big deal.
What I do know is that people discuss when to be publicly out and why, and when to make it a fight and when to just desist. Desisting seems to be the answer in a majority of cases. Again, not the type to scream "IT'S MA'AM!", just the type to politely ask, and on consistent refusal will not talk to that person unless required. I find this position to be sensical - if you ask for something politely, and there is a refusal to treat that claim seriously, of course you will talk to that person as little as possible.
I will admit that I do have problems with handling tier 2 of the pronoun game, the "neopronoun game." I do know some people with neopronouns, but they have never given me a hard time with going the easy route and using the smaller Rolodex of common pronouns that I already have a grasp on; there is an implicit understanding that it is tier 2 of the pronoun game and people will have trouble with that. At most, I have seen vents of "it kinda sucks but I get why."
I cannot comment that much on this statement - I find playing the pronoun game to be quite easy, no instruction manual required, so I have never seen firsthand how the people in my life react to this. At worst I have been politely nudged and corrected when I say the wrong pronouns, and I apologize and use the correct ones. It's never a big deal.
What I do know is that people discuss when to be publicly out and why, and when to make it a fight and when to just desist. Desisting seems to be the answer in a majority of cases. Again, not the type to scream "IT'S MA'AM!", just the type to politely ask, and on consistent refusal will not talk to that person unless required. I find this position to be sensical - if you ask for something politely, and there is a refusal to treat that claim seriously, of course you will talk to that person as little as possible.
I will admit that I do have problems with handling tier 2 of the pronoun game, the "neopronoun game." I do know some people with neopronouns, but they have never given me a hard time with going the easy route and using the smaller Rolodex of common pronouns that I already have a grasp on; there is an implicit understanding that it is tier 2 of the pronoun game and people will have trouble with that. At most, I have seen vents of "it kinda sucks but I get why."
I am not a "troon" in the sense that I do not identify as transgender. I am very apathetic on the concept of labels in general; "agender nonbinary" would most likely be the prescriptivist terms, but I do not identify with either of them. I ultimately find the labels game very boring and personally unnecessary and unfulfilling, and I gave up trying to find satisfaction with the "right label" years ago. I am "myself", and my ultimate goal is to be the idealized version of "myself", with how it ties into my gender identity as a tertiary inconvenience.
What you might actually be asking for is this sentence - I was born a man, present publicly as a man, and so people refer to me as male and he/him, and I find this state of things acceptable. Some people in my private life do not refer to me as he/him, and I find this fine as well. Unless there is an extreme level of change in my life where I start loving the labels game (which I severely doubt) I predict I will use my assigned gender publicly in perpetuity, if only for the sake of convenience. In that regard, I am as close to a "true and honest" guy as I possibly can be while the previous statements are true.
Perhaps that puts your perception of me as a "troon" anyway, which is also fine. I have started talking on Kiwi Farms with the understanding that there are things I and other people here will never see eye to eye on, and I do not suspect I will convince anybody of anything. I am here for the more mixed opinions on my opinions as a curious exercise.
Also I don't care who I kiss, as long as they are a pleasant personality to be around, that is probably the other part that is implied. "Filthy homo!" I mostly end up fancying women, however.
There is potential that I do have autism. I have never been tested for it and I suspect I might. Perhaps I have deliberately changed my writing style on this website for an "autistic" level of speech clarity, and perhaps both things can be true, haha. (I hope your 5th numbered point is "Surprise question: is your name really Theodore H.?")
What you might actually be asking for is this sentence - I was born a man, present publicly as a man, and so people refer to me as male and he/him, and I find this state of things acceptable. Some people in my private life do not refer to me as he/him, and I find this fine as well. Unless there is an extreme level of change in my life where I start loving the labels game (which I severely doubt) I predict I will use my assigned gender publicly in perpetuity, if only for the sake of convenience. In that regard, I am as close to a "true and honest" guy as I possibly can be while the previous statements are true.
Perhaps that puts your perception of me as a "troon" anyway, which is also fine. I have started talking on Kiwi Farms with the understanding that there are things I and other people here will never see eye to eye on, and I do not suspect I will convince anybody of anything. I am here for the more mixed opinions on my opinions as a curious exercise.
Also I don't care who I kiss, as long as they are a pleasant personality to be around, that is probably the other part that is implied. "Filthy homo!" I mostly end up fancying women, however.
There is potential that I do have autism. I have never been tested for it and I suspect I might. Perhaps I have deliberately changed my writing style on this website for an "autistic" level of speech clarity, and perhaps both things can be true, haha. (I hope your 5th numbered point is "Surprise question: is your name really Theodore H.?")
You are within your right to feel this way, I feel. From personal experience, the trans people I know (and hopefully all sensical people) have an innate understanding that there will be people you cannot get to cross the aisle on finding everything they do cool, and on an interpersonal level that is something to ultimately accept and move on. All social interaction is a picking and choosing of battles, and ultimately people will decide to find their own groups to hang out with and have a good time until the end of our days.
(They probably weren't going to associate themselves with you anyway, right? Are there trans people in your life that have tried to... claw you back to them, or something of the sort?)
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I hate the word pussy already and I hate bussy even more.