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General Patton said:
The one place I have been to on Reddit where I encounter no retarded people are Subreddits where it's just people geeking out about history stuff.
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The classic cars and other automotive subs are generally pretty good. My national sub is pretty retarded, my local city one somewhat less so. Some of the niche interest subs are also pretty good, likewise a few of the niche political subs that are well moderated
General Patton said:
My favorite gay British king was the one who paraded his boyfriend around the castle and around his cucked Queen wife. Pretty sure he was medieval, and the boyfriend eventually was killed.
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Edward II? and Piers Gaveston was the boyfriend that got killed?
 
Token Faggot said:
Surrogacy I'm not wild about. Adoption is OK as long as they are good parents, and generally they will be fa far better than the biological parents would have been.
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Im mixed on this. Adoption usually goes really well or really bad, there some horror stories that make me leery even thought 3 of my cousins are adopted with no issues.

I talked with my ex about this on the issue of kids, we both agreed that the child needed like a consistent mother figure they could access on top of the two dads thing. Not sure what that would look like, aunt, cousin, grandparent, close friend, but I believe a kid needs a female figure in their life but I would argue the same for a single parent too to have an opposite gender role model. Its good to have balance and it takes a village. There were things I learned better from my friends parents than my own, plus life experience gained from relatives.
 
PandaChai said:
What makes that the case? My morbid curiosity simply must be satiated.
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Idk. Lack of hair and colour definitely. And like not bad dragon xxl loose but also not vice grip tight, just in the middle where it looks like you could fuck it without losing circulation. And skin care too. Just like general fuckability and invitingness idk.
 
femboy fart huffer said:
Idk. Lack of hair and colour definitely. And like not bad dragon xxl loose but also not vice grip tight, just in the middle where it looks like you could fuck it without losing circulation. And skin care too. Just like general fuckability and invitingness idk.
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If not for the fact that it would invite another round of mouthbreathing morons to driveby the thread, I would be tempted to sponsor the post for "general fuckability" alone, made me laugh out loud.
 
ReeTardSavant said:
But that is the crux of the matter. Why is naming the 50-year-old ogre hon a man (also known as the truth) even being viewed as trolling in the first place? I don't do it to epically pwn them, but simply for stating the truth that, no stalker child, you cannot become a women at the current point in time.
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I understand where my precision of speech went incorrectly. Allow me to rephrase.
Trans people, for whatever reason you would like to think is true, genuinely believe that the pronouns they are asking you to use are the correct ones for them. Because of that, your refusal to play the "pronoun game" is perceived as an intentional slight against them, because the reasons you could refuse the pronoun game are perceived as intentional disrespect towards them personally.
This is what I meant when I said that it feels "trollish." When you are saying that, I believe that you are acting within your genuine belief, but to a trans person it is felt emotionally as a slight against them personally, it "feels" like trolling. Trans people will then act the way that they would when somebody has made a perceived slight against them, which is what I meant when I said that "people are going to react in a got trolled way." This is something that everybody will react differently to, in various stages of perceptive loudness, and we have gotten back to my point as outlined in my original response.

All that being said, I do agree with this thought process of this post:
Token Faggot said:
I take the approach that if the person concerned has made a serious effort at passing and has had the op or is in the process of doing so, then I will respect that effort and commitment by using their preferred pronouns, name etc. But if a man is claiming to be a woman and has made no real effort to look or behave like one whatsoever then no
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Although I think I may be a bit more lenient in that I will respect if you are trying your best in some additional ways (taking HRT; and/or cleaning up and dressing/playing the part, voice training, so on). This is not a level I can expect everybody to agree with, but that clears the bar for "genuinely trying" for me.

It is important to remember that "social lubricant" is very often a two-way street. Trans people do want the benefit, where people call them their chosen identifiers, but to do that they need to create their own social lubricant, which is putting in the effort to transition. But at some point, there is a line when you have put in enough work to where you are presenting as your identified gender, and people will call you by your identity in public. (Or perhaps more accurately, there is a point where it is visually ridiculous to most people to call the trans person by anything else, and the person going "GEGGGG YWNBAW" and poking the trans person's face looks like the crazy one in the conversation.) At that point you have reached "the end goal of transition" where the social lubricant of "yeah they look like a woman I'll call them that" is easier than refuting the potential opposite.
This is ultimately what trans people mean when they say that "gender is a social construct." If there are things you can do where the general populous finds it easier to perceive you as the opposite gender (or maybe more cynically, a mix of actual perception and lip service, but lip service does create perception), then that construct can be adjusted, right? Socially, you are living your life as the opposite gender. You won! This is why trans people talk about passing all the time.
But it is important to GET there, or at least be trying your best to. If somebody is upset because they did less than the bare minimum and people aren't respecting that without having to correct them, then I find that a bit silly. I think most trans people know this, or at least the trans people in my life have intuited this concept naturally.

(And this social bar for the bare minimum is not incredibly high, from what I've seen. Cleaning up, dressing and playing the part does a lot in the eyes of a good chunk of people. Maybe it's just because I live in Liberal Land, though.)
ReeTardSavant said:
Yeah, I get these stances. I guess I'm just a hardliner on that matter. My main gripe is still that, because of these gender antics, there now exists a law with the aim of compelled speech.
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This is also a position that I can understand, however. I think I am on the side of free speech absolutism, where you can say whatever you want, and in turn people can make informed judgements about what you wanted to say. Forcing people to say things they do not believe under penalty in is just unhelpful all around.
I also don't think it actually accomplishes what the people implementing it would want, anyway. Forcing people to respect other people's pronouns under penalty seems like a direct gateway to engendering bitterness about the whole situation in some people, as I'm sure it has for you.
 
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Theodore H. said:
It is important to remember that "social lubricant" is very often a two-way street. Trans people do want the benefit, where people call them their chosen identifiers, but to do that they need to create their own social lubricant, which is putting in the effort to transition. But at some point, there is a line when you have put in enough work to where you are presenting as your identified gender, and people will call you by your identity in public. (Or perhaps more accurately, there is a point where it is visually ridiculous to most people to call the trans person by anything else, and the person going "GEGGGG YWNBAW" and poking the trans person's face looks like the crazy one in the conversation.) At that point you have reached "the end goal of transition" where the social lubricant of "yeah they look like a woman I'll call them that" is easier than refuting the potential opposite.
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This - there is a trans lady of my acquaintance who has put in the hard yards and really presents well as a woman, it actually took me a while to work it out whn I met her. It feels natural to use the correct pronouns with her and insulting not to, on top of which she is also a really lovely person
 
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