Linus Gabriel Sebastian & Linus Media Group / Linus Tech Tips - Narcissistic corporate shill YouTuber driving his media empire into the ground. KILL COUNT: 2

[jalopy]

Where did you read that the LTT screwdriver is made in Canada? The internals are made by a chink factory, they bought the license from Mega Pro to have it manufactured. Mega Pro suggested their own manufacturer in East Asia but Linus chose a different company. Only the plastic molded handles are made in Canada.

Mega Pro's website


Where did you read that it was made in China?

 

[mandatorylurk]

Linus himself said the ratchet (metal part) of the screwdriver was made in Chyna. It was supposed to be Taiwan but Linus says the Chyna manufactuer did it more meticulously and offered a better price (lol). The handle is made in Canada by some company, he did a video where he watched them make the handle then attach it to the metal part and then I guess that company also packaged everything together (the bits are also Chyna made).

 

[Kees H]

If you read the Mega Pro site they are very careful describing what is made in Canadistan and the USA. They blast all over their website that the "driver" is made in Canadistan or the US, not where any of the other parts come from.

 

[Nabeshin]

I work in IT and I honestly don't understand the appeal of a ratcheting screwdriver for PC work;

I worked it too and it's more a guilty pleasure thing. It's a good thing to have as it helps you when building but it's just for convenience and nothing more. Electric screwdrivers or are too strong or are two weak for working on computers

While I would buy a cheap and good 20-30's ratchet, I would never give 80 on the LTT one

 

[Hall of Cost Payer]

Mega Pro's website


Where did you read that it was made in China?

They're saying it in their own announcement video, at 15:20 they go into production of the ratchet mechanism in Taiwan and then China https://youtu.be/2K5Gqp1cEcM

 

[guiltyspark85]

I just finished watching the latest LTT video, the tour of the Framework assembly line. At the end, Linus announced they were having a competition with him and the founder of Framework signing 5 laptops. If you happen to purchase one of these and post evidence on the LTT forum, then you will be the lucky winner of an LTT screwdriver and Framework t-shirt.

It's of course trying to encourage LTT viewers to buy Framework laptops, so they can get something signed by Linus and see that as some sort of valuable collectors item. They had text on-screen stating it's for a DIY Intel 13 inch kit (I assume 13th Gen). I had it playing on my 2nd monitor, I initially missed this detail until I played it again. So like I did, would imagine there'd be LTT viewers and are buying the AMD or pre-built Intels thinking they have a chance of winning.

Linus did mention there'd be details in the description, but all they have is "If you have a signed laptop show us in the forum thread" with none of the mention of the specific product you have to purchase or any other details. Surely this must be against Canadian competition laws? I would assume they'd be very strict and there would have to be specific in writing rules for the competition.

I'd also think it highly likely those that receive the 5 signed laptops aren't even going to be LTT viewers or even aware of the competition through the Framework forums, Discord, etc. They might be curious and Google why one of the components of their Framework kit is signed and find out about the competition that way. But I'd be surprised if all 5 prizes get claimed and wouldn't even be surprised if zero do.

Which leads me to saying a screwdriver and t-shirt are pretty stingy prizes. I'm sure Framework DIY laptop customers already have a screwdriver and t-shirts. Would have thought Linus and Framework could be more generous, and offer something cool like a 14th gen motherboard when that comes out.

Interesting side note, they fully assembly the DIY kits and run them through the same QC process as pre-built, then disassemble them before shipping. Linus doesn't explain why they do this, but it might be because they're early in production with the 13th gen Intel and want to be thorough. Could also be Framework have had a lot of hassle with DIY customers in the past fucking up assembling the laptop and insisting they've followed the instructions to the dotted line, so it must be a faulty piece of hardware. Now Framework can say they fully assembled the laptop themselves and it passed QC.

Out of curiosity, I configured a DIY to same specs as pre-built and it's more expensive, so DIY customers are kind of getting an extra charge for having to re-assembling their laptop. But could still save money on RAM, Windows key and charger - these are all forced options with pre-built.

 

[Soggy paper straw]

I'd also think it highly likely those that receive the 5 signed laptops aren't even going to be LTT viewers or even aware of the competition through the Framework forums, Discord, etc

Being lazy, what did they sign? I would be pissed off if the signature was visible, idgaf about these two people and would not want to give the impression to other people who may see my laptop that I had it signed by someone

Conversely, I would be pissed off if I was a fan buying this laptop in the hope of it being signed... and then the signature was hidden?

Why not gift the Ltt screwdriver and a signed t-shirt? This way you get the word out on the screwdriver to a niche who buys a DYI expensive laptop, and they can throw away (or sell) the signatures if they don't care.
You know, just an idea I had while typing this comment

 

[Susanna]

Being lazy, what did they sign? I would be pissed off if the signature was visible, idgaf about these two people and would not want to give the impression to other people who may see my laptop that I had it signed by someone

Conversely, I would be pissed off if I was a fan buying this laptop in the hope of it being signed... and then the signature was hidden?

Why not gift the Ltt screwdriver and a signed t-shirt? This way you get the word out on the screwdriver to a niche who buys a DYI expensive laptop, and they can throw away (or sell) the signatures if they don't care.
You know, just an idea I had while typing this comment

If I received a laptop and some retard had scribbled on it, I'd make an RMA posthaste and absolutely blast the manufacturer everywhere I can. Even if the signature was by someone I actually admire, say Wozniak, I still wouldn't want it on something I'd carry around in public. I'd hate to have people think I'm the kind of person who cares about having signed things.

This "competition" is asinine, and that's ignoring the fact that unless you get an absolute bargain price, you'd be an idiot to buy an Intel laptop right now. The battery life is beyond pathetic compared to an Apple (or even a Windows laptop with an AMD processor). Laptops are mobile devices, battery life and form factor are the two things that matter most, and right now Intel suck in both departments, their inefficient processors use so much electricity and produce so much waste heat they need much thicker batteries and radiators (and loud fans to blow on the radiators) to match Apple's performance in fanless and much slimmer laptops.

 

[guiltyspark85]

Being lazy, what did they sign? I would be pissed off if the signature was visible, idgaf about these two people and would not want to give the impression to other people who may see my laptop that I had it signed by someone

Conversely, I would be pissed off if I was a fan buying this laptop in the hope of it being signed... and then the signature was hidden?

Why not gift the Ltt screwdriver and a signed t-shirt? This way you get the word out on the screwdriver to a niche who buys a DYI expensive laptop, and they can throw away (or sell) the signatures if they don't care.
You know, just an idea I had while typing this comment

The signed part was just the metal cover over an internal component that was signed, so nothing on the outside case that was signed. I'm sure the average LTT fanboy would still be chuffed at that, even if it's not visible when assembled.

 

[Kees H]

I'd still RMA it, no matter what, if I find this faggots signature on my laptop anywhere. Even if it is on the inside. Fuck Linus Troon Tips, I don't want a signature from some incompetent YouTuber who only knows how to run Cinebench and be a huge faggot on any of my gear.

 

[guiltyspark85]

If I received a laptop and some retard had scribbled on it, I'd make an RMA posthaste and absolutely blast the manufacturer everywhere I can. Even if the signature was by someone I actually admire, say Wozniak, I still wouldn't want it on something I'd carry around in public. I'd hate to have people think I'm the kind of person who cares about having signed things.

Not a laptop, but the original Mac case did actually have Woz's signature on the inside: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Signing_Party.txt

This "competition" is asinine, and that's ignoring the fact that unless you get an absolute bargain price, you'd be an idiot to buy an Intel laptop right now. The battery life is beyond pathetic compared to an Apple (or even a Windows laptop with an AMD processor). Laptops are mobile devices, battery life and form factor are the two things that matter most, and right now Intel suck in both departments, their inefficient processors use so much electricity and produce so much waste heat they need much thicker batteries and radiators (and loud fans to blow on the radiators) to match Apple's performance in fanless and much slimmer laptops.

It really depends user needs on what is most important in a laptop. Personally, I'm primarily a desktop user, but do have a laptop. I mostly use the laptop for browsing the web, but do on occasions need to run Windows specific software for work purposes and also play the occasional game. Battery life isn't important to me and probably only run off the battery for a few hours at a time. So Apple doesn't suit my needs.

There's also a lot of normies that just want to browse the web and use their laptop as a desktop replacement, not using it outside the home. It's quite hard justifying paying twice the cost for a Mac Air to these kind of users for extended battery life (that they don't need) and some sort of "superior" form factor they probably couldn't tell the difference with from a fairly basic laptop.

 

[Susanna]

Not a laptop, but the original Mac case did actually have Woz's signature on the inside: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Signing_Party.txt

Yeah, that's why I gave that example.

It really depends user needs on what is most important in a laptop. Personally, I'm primarily a desktop user, but do have a laptop. I mostly use the laptop for browsing the web, but do on occasions need to run Windows specific software for work purposes and also play the occasional game. Battery life isn't important to me and probably only run off the battery for a few hours at a time. So Apple doesn't suit my needs.

There's also a lot of normies that just want to browse the web and use their laptop as a desktop replacement, not using it outside the home. It's quite hard justifying paying twice the cost for a Mac Air to these kind of users for extended battery life (that they don't need) and some sort of "superior" form factor they probably couldn't tell the difference with from a fairly basic laptop.

I value your opinion, but I think you misunderstand me. If you absolutely need your laptop to do everything for you, I still think you should get a Macbook, but perhaps spend on a Pro instead. Parallels lets you run all the windows-specific software you'll need (even Solidworks, notoriously troublesome). I think laptops are poorly suited to video games in the first place, but if you absolutely must I suppose it could make sense to get a Windows laptop. I'd rather get a macbook and a steam deck separately in that case, though. You get a better gaming experience, and you get a better laptop experience, rather than forcing one device to do both awkwardly. Not that I think it's necessary, these days all the games I play run just fine natively on macOS, and that list is always expanding.

As for the "desktop replacement" people, I lump them in with Linus' audience as mouth-breathing idiots who should be ignored as best you can. Even if you're stationary and near a power outlet most of the time, a laptop is by definition supposed to be portable. I shall broker no compromises here, I say people who always use them plugged in and accept their laptop being some collossal boulder that can only be moved by forklift are using them wrong and should have just bought iMacs or Mac Minis instead, or the Windows equivalent (Dell Optiplex 5000?) if their company has an anti-Apple policy, or an outright workstation/DIY gaming PC if they actually need the power.

 

[WelperHelper99]

There's also a lot of normies that just want to browse the web and use their laptop as a desktop replacement, not using it outside the home. It's quite hard justifying paying twice the cost for a Mac Air to these kind of users for extended battery life (that they don't need) and some sort of "superior" form factor they probably couldn't tell the difference with from a fairly basic laptop.

Cost and with me, the touch screen, is why I main a laptop. It's a lot to ask for me to build a proper PC rn with the way prices are. My little Walmart laptop surfs the web, plays old games, and has some limited upgradeability in storage and ram. I have my collection of older consoles for proper gaming. Call me a caveman, but for me, it's good enough for now. I can build a good PC later when my funds are more comfortable

 

[jalopy]

They're saying it in their own announcement video, at 15:20 they go into production of the ratchet mechanism in Taiwan and then China https://youtu.be/2K5Gqp1cEcM

Thanks for the link. They show final assembly starting at 24:10.
It's in Canada. The ratcheting mechanism is press fit into the hot plastic so it has to be done in the same place as the injection molding.

Honestly, plus points to his people for being able to 'tard wrangle a Mainland manufacturer into not making shit. Though I would suspect for the quality to randomly fucking plummit as soon as someone isn't watching. Another reason why warranties matter... Dumbest fucking way to open up sale of a product I've seen since the Soulja console.

 

[Pee Cola]

I just finished watching the latest LTT video, the tour of the Framework assembly line. At the end, Linus announced they were having a competition with him and the founder of Framework signing 5 laptops.

Welp, that's put me off buying a Framework laptop. There's no way I'll knowingly support anything being shilled by that faggot.

 

[Zookerton]

The signed laptops are probably all Intel Frameworks as those are actually shipping at this very moment. The AMD apu ones aren't even in mass production yet when you look at the website it shows that not a single one with a AMD apu has shipped yet not even the first batch.

As much as I want a framework laptop I'm not sure if I want to buy one primarily due to the fact that I've found that nothing I want to do on a computer requires that much power. So far i've been rocking a setup with a used T480 and a Steam deck and it's covered a majority of whatever I need to do with a computer. I wholeheartedly think Modern AAA is a god damned joke so much so that I believe any games actually worthwhile are just on the Switch which means a steam deck covers anything I consider worth a damn. Another reason is I don't really travel with my devices a lot so I think i'd get more out of a beelink nuc with the same processor or some equivalent without having to pay extra parts.

The real reasons i'd want to buy a framework mainly is just to support companies selling products that are actually user serviceable ( this shows the really sorry state of consumer electronics in 2023).

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

The real reasons i'd want to buy a framework mainly is just to support companies selling products that are actually user serviceable ( this shows the really sorry state of consumer electronics in 2023).

I feel the same way, but I just can't justify getting a laptop honestly.

 

[guiltyspark85]

Welp, that's put me off buying a Framework laptop. There's no way I'll knowingly support anything being shilled by that faggot.

What's worse is Linus invested in Framework a year or so ago. This goes completely against the rule from the leaked employed handbook stating LMG employees can't own shares in tech companies. And even more sketchy, Linus always just happens to be the host of the Framework videos. Isn't Alex their laptop guy - why can't he or someone else host the Framework videos?

 

[CYKA RUSH B]

I worked it too and it's more a guilty pleasure thing. It's a good thing to have as it helps you when building but it's just for convenience and nothing more. Electric screwdrivers or are too strong or are two weak for working on computers

join the ps22 master race

 

[Kheapathic]

If you're gonna try to sell me on a ratchet mechanism; it better come with a cross-bar, t-handle, crank handle, or something that allows me to use it in a traditional way, throw in an extension too so I can get into deep places. If you try to counter by telling me that's for applying more torque than necessary, then I'll tell you use your hand and a traditional screw/bit and stop being a faggot.