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Linus Gabriel Sebastian & Linus Media Group / Linus Tech Tips - Narcissistic corporate shill YouTuber driving his media empire into the ground. KILL COUNT: 2
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Of interest, if you are actually on GNOME, using
gnome-screenshot (I guess the default screenshot utility), it shows on the metadata.I didn't proofread them, but Apple Silicon (only?) Macs (and iPads) can grab text from photos. There might also be an option in Firefox's right click.
Hi Josh, thanks for taking an interest in our video. We agree that our role as tech influencers bears an incredible amount of responsibility to the audience. Therefore we'd like to respond to some of the claims in this video with even more information that the audience can use in their evaluation of these new products and the media presenting them.
Claim: Because we were previously sponsored by Qualcomm, the information in our unsponsored video is censored and spun so as to keep a high-paying sponsor happy.
Response: Our brand is built on audience trust. Sacrificing audience trust for the sake of a sponsor relationship would not only be unethical, it would be an incredibly short-sighted business decision. Manufacturers know we don't pull punches, and even though that sometimes means we don't get early access to certain products or don't get sponsored by certain brands, it's a principle we will always uphold. This is a core component of the high level of transparency our company has demonstrated time and time again.
Ultimately, each creator must follow their own moral compass. For example, you include affiliate links to Lenovo, HP, and Dell in this video's description, whereas we've declined these ongoing affiliate relationships, preferring to keep our sponsorships clearly delineated from our editorial content. Neither approach is 'correct or 'incorrect as long as everything is adequately disclosed for viewers to make their own judgments.
Claim: "Why didn't his team just do what we did and go buy the tools necessary to measure power draw"
Response: We don't agree that the tools shown in your video are adequate for the job. We have multiple USB power testers on hand and tested your test methodology on our AMD and Intel laptops. On our AMD laptop we found the USB power draw tool reported 54W of total power consumption while HWinfo reported 35W on the CPU package, and on our Intel system the USB power draw tool reported 70W while the CPU package was at 48W. In both cases, this is not a difference where simply subtracting "TW of power for the needs of the rest of the laptop" will overcome. You then used this data to claim Qualcomm has inefficient processors. Until Qualcomm releases tools that properly measure power consumption of the CPU package, we'd like to refrain from releasing data from less-accurate tests to the public. According to our error handling process this would be High Severity which,at a minimum, all video spots referencing the incorrect power testing should be removed via Youtube Editor.
Claim: Linus "comes across as overwhelmingly positive but his findings don't really match that"
Response: In this section, you use video editing to mislead your viewers when the actual content of our video is more balanced. The most egregious example of this is the clip where you quote Linus saying, "now the raw performance of the Snapdragon chips: very impressive- rivaling both AMD and Intel's integrated graphics..." but you did not include the second half of the sentence:
"...when it works". In our video, we then show multiple scenarios of the laptops not working well for gaming, which you included but placed these results before the previous quote to make it seem like we contradict ourselves and recommended these for gaming. In our video, we actually say, "it will probably be quite some time before we can recommend a Snapdragon X Elite chip for gaming." For that reason, we feel that what we say and what we show in this section are not contradictory.
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Response: The argument here really hinges on one's expectations for launches like this. The last big launch we saw like this on Windows was Intel Arc, which had video driver problems preventing the product from doing what it was, largely, supposed to do: play video games. Conversely, these processors deliver the key feature we expected (exceptional battery life) while functioning well in most mainstream user tasks. In your video, you cite poor compatibility "for those who use specialist applications and/or enjoy gaming" which is true, but in our view is an unreasonable goal-post for a new platform launch like this.
Claim: LMG should have done their live stream testing game compatibility before publishing their review
Response: We agree and that was our original plan! Unfortunately, we ran into technical difficulties with our AMD comparison laptops, and our shooting schedule (and the Canada Day long weekend) resulted in our live stream getting pushed out by a week.
Claim: Because we were previously sponsored by Qualcomm, the information in our unsponsored video is censored and spun so as to keep a high-paying sponsor happy.
Response: Our brand is built on audience trust. Sacrificing audience trust for the sake of a sponsor relationship would not only be unethical, it would be an incredibly short-sighted business decision. Manufacturers know we don't pull punches, and even though that sometimes means we don't get early access to certain products or don't get sponsored by certain brands, it's a principle we will always uphold. This is a core component of the high level of transparency our company has demonstrated time and time again.
Ultimately, each creator must follow their own moral compass. For example, you include affiliate links to Lenovo, HP, and Dell in this video's description, whereas we've declined these ongoing affiliate relationships, preferring to keep our sponsorships clearly delineated from our editorial content. Neither approach is 'correct or 'incorrect as long as everything is adequately disclosed for viewers to make their own judgments.
Claim: "Why didn't his team just do what we did and go buy the tools necessary to measure power draw"
Response: We don't agree that the tools shown in your video are adequate for the job. We have multiple USB power testers on hand and tested your test methodology on our AMD and Intel laptops. On our AMD laptop we found the USB power draw tool reported 54W of total power consumption while HWinfo reported 35W on the CPU package, and on our Intel system the USB power draw tool reported 70W while the CPU package was at 48W. In both cases, this is not a difference where simply subtracting "TW of power for the needs of the rest of the laptop" will overcome. You then used this data to claim Qualcomm has inefficient processors. Until Qualcomm releases tools that properly measure power consumption of the CPU package, we'd like to refrain from releasing data from less-accurate tests to the public. According to our error handling process this would be High Severity which,at a minimum, all video spots referencing the incorrect power testing should be removed via Youtube Editor.
Claim: Linus "comes across as overwhelmingly positive but his findings don't really match that"
Response: In this section, you use video editing to mislead your viewers when the actual content of our video is more balanced. The most egregious example of this is the clip where you quote Linus saying, "now the raw performance of the Snapdragon chips: very impressive- rivaling both AMD and Intel's integrated graphics..." but you did not include the second half of the sentence:
"...when it works". In our video, we then show multiple scenarios of the laptops not working well for gaming, which you included but placed these results before the previous quote to make it seem like we contradict ourselves and recommended these for gaming. In our video, we actually say, "it will probably be quite some time before we can recommend a Snapdragon X Elite chip for gaming." For that reason, we feel that what we say and what we show in this section are not contradictory.
clem Tnes lapops did not anp wth ghootng doyone comgesnesef orlaetof en：，e et bo iauinch on eneyie hse on Ww dos wone ia Are wohic et witbe dhios.orabend
Response: The argument here really hinges on one's expectations for launches like this. The last big launch we saw like this on Windows was Intel Arc, which had video driver problems preventing the product from doing what it was, largely, supposed to do: play video games. Conversely, these processors deliver the key feature we expected (exceptional battery life) while functioning well in most mainstream user tasks. In your video, you cite poor compatibility "for those who use specialist applications and/or enjoy gaming" which is true, but in our view is an unreasonable goal-post for a new platform launch like this.
Claim: LMG should have done their live stream testing game compatibility before publishing their review
Response: We agree and that was our original plan! Unfortunately, we ran into technical difficulties with our AMD comparison laptops, and our shooting schedule (and the Canada Day long weekend) resulted in our live stream getting pushed out by a week.
Claim: LMG should daily-drive products before making video, not after.
Response: We agree that immersing oneself with a product is the best workflow, and that's why Alex daily drove the HP Omnibook X for a week while writing this video. During that time, it worked very well and lasted for over two work days on a single charge. If we had issues like you had on the Surface Laptop, we would have reported them- but that just didn't happen on our devices. The call to action in our video is to use the devices "for a month," which allows us to do an even deeper dive. We believe this multi-video strategy allows us to balance timeliness with thoroughness.
Claim: The LTT video only included endurance battery tests. It should have included performance battery tests as well.
Response: We agree, and we planned to conduct them! However, we were frankly surprised when our initial endurance tests showed the Qualcomm laptops lasting longer than Apple's, so we wanted to double-check our results. We re-ran the endurance tests multiple times on all laptops to ensure accuracy, but since the endurance tests take so long, we unfortunately could not include performance tests in our preliminary video, and resolved to cover them in more detail after our month-long immersion experiment.
Claim: The LTT video didn't show that the HP Omnibook X throttles its performance when on battery
Response: No, we did not, and it's a good thing to know. Obviously, we did not have HP's note when making our video (as you say, it was issued after we published), but we could have identified the issue ourselves (and perhaps we would have if we didn't run all those endurance tests, see above). Ultimately, a single video cannot be all things to all people, which is why we have always emphasized that it is important to watch/read multiple reviews.
Claim: When it comes to comparing the power efficiency between these laptops processors - when on battery that is - you need to normalize for the size of the laptop's battery Response: We don't think normalizing for the size of a laptop's battery makes sense given that it's not possible to isolate to just the processor. One can make the argument to normalize for screen size as well, but from our experience the average end user will be far more concerned with how long they can go without charging their laptop.
Claim: LTT made assumptions about the various X Elite SKUs and wasn't transparent with the audience.
Response: As we say in our video, we only had access to laptops with a single X Elite SKU and were unable to test Dual Core Boost since we didn't happen to get a machine with an X1-80-100 like you did. We therefore speculated on the performance of the other SKUs, using phrasing like "it's possible that" and "presumably." We don't think it's unreasonable to expect a higher clocked chip to run faster, and we believe our language made it clear to the audience that we were speculating.
Your video regularly reinforces that our testing is consistent with yours, just that our conclusions were more positive. Our belief is that for the average buyer of these laptops, battery life would be more important than whether VMWare or Rekordbox currently run. We take criticisms seriously because we always want to improve our content, but what we would also appreciate are good faith arguments so that strong independent tech media continues to flourish.
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Response: We agree that immersing oneself with a product is the best workflow, and that's why Alex daily drove the HP Omnibook X for a week while writing this video. During that time, it worked very well and lasted for over two work days on a single charge. If we had issues like you had on the Surface Laptop, we would have reported them- but that just didn't happen on our devices. The call to action in our video is to use the devices "for a month," which allows us to do an even deeper dive. We believe this multi-video strategy allows us to balance timeliness with thoroughness.
Claim: The LTT video only included endurance battery tests. It should have included performance battery tests as well.
Response: We agree, and we planned to conduct them! However, we were frankly surprised when our initial endurance tests showed the Qualcomm laptops lasting longer than Apple's, so we wanted to double-check our results. We re-ran the endurance tests multiple times on all laptops to ensure accuracy, but since the endurance tests take so long, we unfortunately could not include performance tests in our preliminary video, and resolved to cover them in more detail after our month-long immersion experiment.
Claim: The LTT video didn't show that the HP Omnibook X throttles its performance when on battery
Response: No, we did not, and it's a good thing to know. Obviously, we did not have HP's note when making our video (as you say, it was issued after we published), but we could have identified the issue ourselves (and perhaps we would have if we didn't run all those endurance tests, see above). Ultimately, a single video cannot be all things to all people, which is why we have always emphasized that it is important to watch/read multiple reviews.
Claim: When it comes to comparing the power efficiency between these laptops processors - when on battery that is - you need to normalize for the size of the laptop's battery Response: We don't think normalizing for the size of a laptop's battery makes sense given that it's not possible to isolate to just the processor. One can make the argument to normalize for screen size as well, but from our experience the average end user will be far more concerned with how long they can go without charging their laptop.
Claim: LTT made assumptions about the various X Elite SKUs and wasn't transparent with the audience.
Response: As we say in our video, we only had access to laptops with a single X Elite SKU and were unable to test Dual Core Boost since we didn't happen to get a machine with an X1-80-100 like you did. We therefore speculated on the performance of the other SKUs, using phrasing like "it's possible that" and "presumably." We don't think it's unreasonable to expect a higher clocked chip to run faster, and we believe our language made it clear to the audience that we were speculating.
Your video regularly reinforces that our testing is consistent with yours, just that our conclusions were more positive. Our belief is that for the average buyer of these laptops, battery life would be more important than whether VMWare or Rekordbox currently run. We take criticisms seriously because we always want to improve our content, but what we would also appreciate are good faith arguments so that strong independent tech media continues to flourish.
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What is this jibber-jabber, this gobbledygook!
Apple Bros stay loosing
(Still very handy and useful tool though. It seemed to work for the most part though.)
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Lmao, nice find. Ranting like this in a youtube comment section for a video with barely 100k views feels like full on corncob seething. I know I was speculating what Linus's response to this was, and others convinced me that yea he'd probably just ignore it. But nope, guess it was eating away at him.
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Drama keen
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I don't know what the MacBook's deal is, it returns the same gibberish, even if I just select the sentence, but the iPad (Mini!) gets it right...
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I found Linus answer to be good but at the same time bad and full of cope. The usb power meter, laptop on performance and SKU's are lame excuses, while the USB power meter isn't the best tool it's more than enough for the review and I agree that removing 7W from the total to be unfair.
Also linus on readiness is cope, he still shits on AMD when a thing doesn't work properly out of the box but gives a pat in the back of Qualcoom and Intel
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Anyone know what an account lead is?
Is he supposed to be the LTT liaison to the urban canadian yoof? I also counted 15 writers.
Is he supposed to be the LTT liaison to the urban canadian yoof? I also counted 15 writers.
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Normally an account lead would be for sales or the like - Business to Business partner relationships. I suppose it wouldn't be inaccurate to apply the term to sponsor accounts, its just unusual to see them using it in this context which implies actively selling audience attention, rather than "Business Relations Manager" or the equivalent to imply that its about maintaining a good connection between the two for collaboration and marketing purposes. Functionally both are the same, but its one of those little perceptual positioning things that you avoid.
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HA! Account lead in this case means he thinks he's a baller, and he's got cred/connections to make nerds and tech companies with mainly autists think he can help them out. Because wouldn't you think someone with only three gold teef in a grill, a shitty turkish mullet, and ugly ass tattoos is the person you want to do business with beyond making you a burger?
"Yo dawg, how you doin' man, how's things? Yeah that's great hey listen, I work for LTT, it's a big fucking deal on youtube, man, lemme tell you, like two million views on lock, no doubt, no doubt. And I like your shit man, oh damn I didn't mean to swear, I'm sorry, but you know we're just knocking it out the fucking park, you feel me? But yo, listen, to cut to the chase, you give us $10,000 and we shout you out on a video where we upgrade our boss' car, like fully pimped out, feel me? He does the upgrade with a tranny too because it's all about pride being luv, right? And that makes your company look good right now you know? Anyway, you give us 10k and some free product to put in the car and maybe for the boss and you'll see sales spike up to 1,000%! But we gotta do something in the next 48 hours or I have to let some other company in because we are slammed with requests, but I like your product so much, man!"
"Yo dawg, how you doin' man, how's things? Yeah that's great hey listen, I work for LTT, it's a big fucking deal on youtube, man, lemme tell you, like two million views on lock, no doubt, no doubt. And I like your shit man, oh damn I didn't mean to swear, I'm sorry, but you know we're just knocking it out the fucking park, you feel me? But yo, listen, to cut to the chase, you give us $10,000 and we shout you out on a video where we upgrade our boss' car, like fully pimped out, feel me? He does the upgrade with a tranny too because it's all about pride being luv, right? And that makes your company look good right now you know? Anyway, you give us 10k and some free product to put in the car and maybe for the boss and you'll see sales spike up to 1,000%! But we gotta do something in the next 48 hours or I have to let some other company in because we are slammed with requests, but I like your product so much, man!"
indomitable snowman
Can't stop, won't stop (unless it gets above 32°F)
True & Honest Fan
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Ice spice on a US flag.
It can be yours for $15.99
Oh and her is her "music"
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Is this a common style now or is this just the black/female BLP Kosher?
indomitable snowman
Can't stop, won't stop (unless it gets above 32°F)
True & Honest Fan
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Drill/trap rap is popular with the zoomies and is uniformly terrible.
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A $5 tablet mount to a seat headrest and a Nintendo Switch would have been both better than this and zero work.
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It's honestly about 85-90% right. Sometimes it struggles to select text, but... in general, it's pretty goddamn solid.What is this jibber-jabber, this gobbledygook!
Apple Bros stay loosing
Kinda surprised that it hasn't been tried to be implemented on Windows or Android. Regardless, I'll try it with mine.
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American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Eddie Murphy while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers
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TL;DR Linus is a faggot.
Lisa forgive me
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I still think their videos are rushed despite their commitments to not do so. I get that they have contracts with sponsors and have to publish videos on certain dates and whatnot but I think that their testing could also be more thorough. After all, that's the entire purpose of the lab that they built, to test products not only more thoroughly but efficiently as well.
Qualcomm laptops and Intel dedicated GPUs (not integrated graphics) are both relatively new compared to AMD mobile chipsets since those have been around for literal decades, so I think he sees the level of progress the former two are making in the span of just a couple years compared to AMD and saying AMD should do better as an industry veteran. I don't necessarily agree nor disagree with this, however most can admit that AMD having a good product after making good products for years is unsurprising whereas a company like Qualcomm whose been making mobile phone shit all of a sudden making actually half-decent laptops is pretty out there.
Drama keen
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But should you compare Qualcomm to AMD or to Apple? Apple nailed the computers release, after also having its own chips for years on the iPhones.