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Troons aren't going to like this either.
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It's kind of like that shit EFF(?) response to the #DKF situation.

If you mount your defense on the back of a "these guys are horrific monsters, but lets be reasonable guys" statement, you undermine your position and risk turning as many people against you as you do turning them for you. Its an extremely unconvincing argument and borders on being better off saying nothing at all.

If he just removed the first sentence from the message and didn't mention KF at all it improves things significantly and becomes a message that most middle-of-the-road people can at the very least be open to considering.
 
One day, on the steps of the Supreme Court of the United States a crowd will gather and watch as an autistic website owner wearing an Applebee's suit walks through the doors, a slobbermutt pin on his lapel and the scent of week old pizza lingering in his wake . The men will scream JUL-AY and the fat chicks will throw their soiled and skidmarked panties. The troons will sob into their programming socks, the lolcows will shriek as they pay for yet another DDoS, and at least one MI5 agent will be present to finally silence our dear feeder.
And on that day, the world will change. Probably not for the better, but it'll change.
This is not that day, but its a step closer.
It is my dream to see Mr Moon go to Washington, sit before the most powerful judges in the land, and calmly explain to Clarence Thomas why it is a moral, legal and dare I say spiritual imperative to turn that 41% into 100%.
It should be your dream too.

Seriously, good job Josh. You've got the fight of a junkyard mutt and its a sight to behold.
 
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Remember where we came from, guys?

Not that long ago, people were urging Josh to sue them for defamation. Josh, in his frustration, demanded to know who would fund his litigation. Who would pony up the $75,000? Who indeed?

When Epik's defamation, Liz Fong-Jones' "girl talks," and Russell Greer's lawfare became too much to bear, Josh reached a breaking point. He asked if we were willing to crowdfund litigation. More than 1,600 people said yes.

After consulting with Hardin (and possibly some legal Kiwis), he set up the IOLTA for the required $75,000. I'm sure he didn't have high hopes for it. At most, he probably thought, we'd barely make the goal, and if we didn't he could bitterly use it as an example of why people shouldn't demand he sue. Particularly given all he's sacrificed to get this far.

Our enemies noticed too. They were giggling like crazy, remember? "Josh won't make it," they crowed. "He'll never reach his goal. His community is like the retards on /pol/- all talk, no action."

And then, in 24 hours, we reached our goal. And then, the number climbed higher- and yet higher. Our enemies began baselessly speculating. "Oh he's just going to take the money and run," they said. "He's fleecing you idiot Kiwis!" Yet the money grew- more than twice the original amount in credit card donations alone. We raised more money than Keffals did. We made Russell's trauma lumps throb. Our enemies panicked as they realized we were united behind Josh. Coping, seething, and dilating were the order of the day.

And why did we do this? First, we like this community and the retards who comprise it. We might snipe at each other, we might disagree violently, we might even rate someone's post Dumb and Autistic, but we're a tight-knit community, and we'll gladly set aside our differences and unite against our enemies.

Second, we trust Josh. In the spirit of America's Founding Fathers, Josh has put his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor on the line for this funny bird website- literally. A founder of Trans Lifeline showed up at his (mom's) house in 2016 with a knife, "just to talk." He spent his life's savings on keeping this website up and now lives in Serbia, surviving on fictitious internet money. His reputation, put simply, is ruined by over ten years of defamation. All of this for the sake of giving us a place to sneed. He helped us for more than ten years, and now we're doing our part to help him.

Third, our trust is not blind- Josh has proven himself trustworthy. During the dark days of #DropKiwiFarms, he did everything in his power to keep us online. He pulled miracle after miracle out of his butt, and here we are today. It would've been easy to wave the white flag, distribute the site's data, and disappear into eastern Europe. If he was willing to stand up for us during the darkest time in our site's history, no way he'd take our money and run (and that's before we get into the IOLTA being a legal fund that cannot be used for any other purpose.)

So where are we now?

Epik has officially retracted their statements. Russell Greer is currently hiding in Nevada, desperately trying to find a way to fight us in court. Our enemies are shocked that Josh is not like them- conniving, greedy, and manipulative. Liz Fong-Jones is hiding, especially after admitting he was responsible for getting us deplatformed.

I'm not going to pretend our fight is over, far from it. But this is a huge victory that belongs to us as much as it belongs to Josh. Josh would not have been able to fight this without our support, and we would not be here if Josh wasn't willing to fight.

United, we sneed!
 
Before anyone goes "So why did Jersh need all this money", the fact Null got that much money was why Epik kneeled. Also magnamity in victory. It serves no purpose to kick a surrendered foe. We have way too many other foes to deal with as is.
Having a big gun is more important than firing it. They now know we have claws, so they can't kick us so blatantly without fear of reprisal.

Can't wait for trannies online to complain about using a tactic they themselves will use without remorse.
 

Somehow this does not feel like much of a victory. Epik claims that they have "no direct knowledge," which implies that they may have indirect knowledge of CP. If they came out and said that, that would still be defamatory, so they are just trying to imply it.

I feel like Null should have written down what they were to say and forced them to say it, in order to avoid them implying things that are not true.
 
Somehow this does not feel like much of a victory. Epik claims that they have "no direct knowledge," which implies that they may have indirect knowledge of CP. If they came out and said that, that would still be defamatory, so they are just trying to imply it.

I feel like Null should have written down what they were to say and forced them to say it, in order to avoid them implying things that are not true.
They were probably told accusations by other sources that there was CP so that's probably true, but to claim that as fact and not independently verify that is slander. Unless their "sources" retract their claims to Epik about the cp they can still word things like that.
 
>be anti pedo
>expose vicious animal abuse (@DrNow is based)
>expose pedos
>be anti child abuse
>document nefarious things so they see light
>"hive of scum and villainy"
While i appreciate Jesse's objectivity there are people here doing good things
He who's evil shall cast righteous individuals as having malice, in spite of the malice being haboured by he who cast the label.
 
Somehow this does not feel like much of a victory. Epik claims that they have "no direct knowledge," which implies that they may have indirect knowledge of CP. If they came out and said that, that would still be defamatory, so they are just trying to imply it.
Eh, legal writing has to be precise. When they said they KNEW we had child porn, this implied they did due diligence, investigated and found CSAM. Clearly they didn't do that, hence the retraction.

In order to say they KNOW we don't have CSAM they would also have had to do an investigation. Which they almost certainly did not. Which means they can't KNOW that we don't either. So the correct response is "We have know way of knowing".
 
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