Live Action Little Mermaid

[Ita Mori]

Congratulations to Britany Venti for becoming a Nu-Disney princess!

 

[Ser Prize]

Congratulations to Britany Venti for becoming a Nu-Disney princess!

Nah, Venti could at least fill out the seashell bra.

 

[duckbutter&toejamsandwich]

And I thought Mayor Lightfoot was the last of her kind. I hope there's not any more.

 

[Trianon]

@Zero Day Defense I loved your post! The feminine strength in fairy tales is always ignored in favor of the "independent modern woman" trope and I hate it. It does such a disservice to the strength of character and compassion that so many heroines exhibit. That is great analysis about the many kinds of love portrayed in TLM. Have you ever looked into the Broadway version? The "If Only" quartet shows that really well, including the love Sebastian shows for Ariel. Makes me appreciate all the characters more.

Eric is also my favorite prince because he's just a good guy and they actually are friends before he recognizes that he loves her.

 

[RussianBlonde]

as time goes on I'm increasingly convinced Hollywood has some kind of perpetual motion machine that's driven purely by these awful culture war bitch fights

Not even Hollywood alone. Look at what happened to MET Gala, once one of the most exclusive benefit fundraising events which was attended by old money and only A-listers from the entertainment world. Something happened suddenly and the past 2-3 years or so it hit the bottom when suddenly they started letting in Instagram "influencers", youtubers and TikTok "stars". Who knows if it was Wintour's idea or she was forced to do it, I assume the latter knowing what an absolute snob she is. I suspect the elites are starting to fear modern proletariat so they are inviting them to mingle and giving them "representation".

 

[XYZpdq]

it bugs me the way they say "real life" even though it's still completely fictional
live action movies still aren't real, and a hundred gallons of cg over live action is even more not real

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

This crappy remake might be interesting to keep an eye on. My normie friends, who plunk their kids in front of whatever new thing is on D+, are showing some pushback against this one. Especially the 30-40 something year old women and in particular, moms. You don't fuck with people's childhoods, and this one might be a step too far.

Yeah most of the Disney "live action" remakes have been meh to bad, but The Little Mermaid was a touchstone to a lot of little girls' childhoods in the 90s, more so than even Beauty and the Beast. Changing it this much, watching it bomb, and then yelling "Muh racicicicism" might open a lot of eyes that have been half-open in apathy.

 

[RussianBlonde]

Casting ugly people isn't even automatically a bad thing. People can be ugly but still so charming that they overshadow others around them. Thing is that you have play into the fact that they aren't conventionally attractive.

This chick has an alien look to her. Could work great in some other role but makes her a horrible casting to Ariel. Prince Eric only gets a one good look at her and gets obsessed by her. Sure him surviving a horrible accident and her voice play part but it's also very clearly that she's is hot too.

She should have been cast as an amphibian in a sequel of Del Torro's "The shape of water".

Black mermaids don't even make sense. If mermaids are mammals (which we can see from the tits and the hair) then they'd end up the colors of other marine mammals. It's the same thing with black dwarves, they'd die of vitamin D deficiency.

As a Polak, I have a personal issue with the new representation of the character. Mermaids are native to the eastern and northern Europe's folk. Both Copenhagen and Warsaw have mermaids as their city symbols. Mermaid of Warsaw is an iconic creature that according to an old legend, guarded our city since it was just a fishing village. You will its monuments and signs all over the city.

In Hans Christian Andersen's original tale mermaid's look is described as follows: "They were six beautiful children, but the youngest was the prettiest of all; her skin was as soft and delicate as a roseleaf, her eyes as blue as the deepest sea, but like all the others she had no feet, and instead of legs she had a fish's tail".

So yeah, in an era where everything is a "cultural appropriation" this is a fucking joke.

This crappy remake might be interesting to keep an eye on. My normie friends, who plunk their kids in front of whatever new thing is on D+, are showing some pushback against this one. Especially the 30-40 something year old women and in particular, moms. You don't fuck with people's childhoods, and this one might be a step too far.

Yeah most of the Disney "live action" remakes have been meh to bad, but The Little Mermaid was a touchstone to a lot of little girls' childhoods in the 90s, more so than even Beauty and the Beast. Changing it this much, watching it bomb, and then yelling "Muh racicicicism" might open a lot of eyes that have been half-open in apathy.

This is no different then Brandy's Cinderella. What really baffles me though is that if you go ie on Lipstick Alley, black folks there are cheering this idea on and I dont understand why. This is a white story, from a white European folk culture, even Japanese made an anime movie based on it in the 70s and their mermaid character was blonde. It's like they are handing black people these white hand me downs, this is just another version of tokenism. Even the animated character in Princess and the Frog was light shade of black. Why not create something new and awesome, an animated classic Disney film based on African or Caribbean folk, with a princess that looks more like Lupita Nyongo.

 

[PhoBingas]

I'm a little confused as to why they're making a live action Little Mermaid. Didn't all the live action remakes flop, or will Disney adults pay for anything with the mouse's logo on it?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I'm a little confused as to why they're making a live action Little Mermaid. Didn't all the live action remakes flop, or will Disney adults pay for anything with the mouse's logo on it?

Either Disney+ is enough to make up for the red, either because of nostalgia or morbid curiosity at the films that bombed, or the people running Disney legitimately don't give a fuck and want to run the company into the ground, purely out of spite at Walt Disney, the man himself.

Walt Disney himself was actually pretty based. An idealist who could see and appreciate the beauty around him, unironically supported family values, was hopeful for the future, and hated, absolutely HATED communism.

Things are going to get interesting next year when Florida's anti-Disney law comes into effect.

 

[Adamska]

I'm a little confused as to why they're making a live action Little Mermaid. Didn't all the live action remakes flop, or will Disney adults pay for anything with the mouse's logo on it?

Nahh, a few of them at least made money back or did fairly decently, but there have been flops too.

Basically Disney like all entertainment has changed to essentially become a type of scam. They don't rely on things like watch rate, units sold for games, or audiences for money anymore. Instead they only see the investors, which as a whole give a lot more money quickly. This means they don't have to try so hard in making anything as good, since they already have their money on the back end; they just need to placate investors slightly to keep going.

Then add that they're now obsessed with streaming services rather than just shows. To them, it doesn't matter if something eats shit so long as they get high views. They rely in a sense on you just paying monthly, and it doesn't matter where you go from there. Oh, this remake ate shit? Doesn't matter, we got 25 million members paying like 15 bucks per month casually all to us now. Who cares if they're only watching shows made by people over 20 - 40 years ago. That means we don't have to spend money.

It's an environment that fosters shit products, made worse by the entitled and nepotistic hacks and the death of writing in cinema. Entertainment's a zombie until the corpos eat shit.

 

[BelUwUga]

There's already screenshots circulating around /tv/ and /pol/ where some slippery slopes over in China have bleached their way back up the proverbial slippery slope.

Not to be outdone, somebody has apparently already got a proof of concept for a video model. They calculate it will require 4x A6000 graphics cards chugging for 24 hours, or $240

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

There's already screenshots circulating around /tv/ and /pol/ where some slippery slopes over in China have bleached their way back up the proverbial slippery slope.
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Not to be outdone, somebody has apparently already got a proof of concept for a video model. They calculate it will require 4x A6000 graphics cards chugging for 24 hours, or $240
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Fuck in that video, the cg is less uncanny valley than the actress. What a joke.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

I saw people on twitter arguing that because the race of Ariel wasn't specified she could have been African. That is despite the fact it was written in the 1830s in Denmark (which was entirely untouched by third world immigration at that point) and there is a good chance Hans Christian Andersen might not have seen a black person in his entire lifetime.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

I'm a little confused as to why they're making a live action Little Mermaid. Didn't all the live action remakes flop, or will Disney adults pay for anything with the mouse's logo on it?

These Disney's live action remakes are only made to extend the copyright of 'their' versions of classic fair tales once the copyright of the original animated films expire. Milking nostalgia from consoomers is just a bonus.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

These Disney's live action remakes are only made to extend the copyright of 'their' versions of classic fair tales once the copyright of the original animated films expire. Milking nostalgia from consoomers is just a bonus.

I'd agree, but the copyright for the 90s stuff won't be up until what, 70 years after the death of the author, or 95 years from creation if no direct author is credited? So these 90s animated remakes wouldn't go public domain in the US until 2060-2080 something.

It's just naked greed.

 

[GenociderSyo]

SNL put it best when they commented about Mattius being black in Frozen 2:

 

[Maude Snew]

I saw people on twitter arguing that because the race of Ariel wasn't specified she could have been African. That is despite the fact it was written in the 1830s in Denmark (which was entirely untouched by third world immigration at that point) and there is a good chance Hans Christian Andersen might not have seen a black person in his entire lifetime.

Uh no black people can't swim, everybody knows that. Just how white people can't jump, that's just good facts.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Uh no black people can't swim, everybody knows that. Just how white people can't jump, that's just good facts.

Would a half-black, half-white person be able to do both or neither?

 

[Maude Snew]

Would a half-black, half-white person be able to do both or neither?

The fabled jumpswimmer. That's a daywalker situation like Blade clearly. I mean that's why Venti has those hammerhead eyes going.