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Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism
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"Where have all the tomboys gone, long time passing?
Where have all the tomboys gone, long time ago?
Where have all the tomboys gone?
They have been pooned-out by everyone.
Oh, when will the gender cult be spurned?
Oh, when will the gender cult be spurned?"
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Your saying 'if'. His HQ in Silicon Valley for sure...seen degen behaviour
God i fucking hate everything
Joe Lieberman
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A younger relative of mine came out to me as "they/he" today, and is going by a name with a spelling that's honestly kind of ridiculous (it's a somewhat common gender neutral name but with two special letters out of six). I'm concerned for the kid for a bunch of reasons. She's 22, a lesbian, doesn't have a GED yet, has a hard time holding down a job. She got into some trouble with the law last year and went to rehab, where she was diagnosed with BPD. Both of her parents have had long-term substance abuse problems, so the most important adults in her life weren't modeling positive behavior, but the second she got a chance to when she was 13-14, she just wouldn't respond to some of the other people in the family who were trying to help her. There hasn't been any outwardly narcissistic "cut off your whole family" troon behavior from her yet.
I'm not going to tell her that I think her gender identity is stupid, because she thinks of me, Joe Lieberman, as someone who has his shit together, and I want her to have adults in her life that actually do model positive behavior. Instead, I'm going to seed doubt. I am going to tell her something that no other adult in her life is going to tell her: that she needs to be careful about the other people she associates with. A lot of the other people her age she's going to be meeting are going to be just as fucked up as her, if not more so, and she needs to protect herself from those more retarded than herself. She also needs to start thinking about her future, because 22 turns to 25 turns to 30 really quickly, and I know plenty of queer and trans morons in their 30's who have fucked up their lives to the point where they might not be able to recover. If she winds up going fully retarded and I have to cut her off, at least I tried to do something her parents couldn't or wouldn't without coddling her.
I'm not going to tell her that I think her gender identity is stupid, because she thinks of me, Joe Lieberman, as someone who has his shit together, and I want her to have adults in her life that actually do model positive behavior. Instead, I'm going to seed doubt. I am going to tell her something that no other adult in her life is going to tell her: that she needs to be careful about the other people she associates with. A lot of the other people her age she's going to be meeting are going to be just as fucked up as her, if not more so, and she needs to protect herself from those more retarded than herself. She also needs to start thinking about her future, because 22 turns to 25 turns to 30 really quickly, and I know plenty of queer and trans morons in their 30's who have fucked up their lives to the point where they might not be able to recover. If she winds up going fully retarded and I have to cut her off, at least I tried to do something her parents couldn't or wouldn't without coddling her.
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From the sound of things, that "something" is "Being a bare minimum fucking parent"
Silliest Creature
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Well, I guess my time to write on this thread has come. I'm usually a lurker here on the farms but right now this is the only place I can speak about this without getting dogpiled on.
My sister has asked me to occasionally refer to her with male pronouns because she's "Non Binary" now.
Her nonbinary thing is something she told me before but I've been ignoring it for a while and taking advantage of her saying "I don't mind any pronouns" I just called her a she anyways.
I'm going to still use she/her on her because I don't believe in any of this nonsense anymore. But the thing is, there was a time I did. And she had a trans dude phase which at the time I respected and played along because I didn't knew better. I thought she grew up out of that because she stopped insisting on being called a man. But now she calls herself nonbinary and I don't believe in transgender identities anymore.
I don't dislike my sister. To some degree I'm fine letting her live her life in the way she wants to, after all she's an adult, but I'm afraid about the future now that I don't want to play along anymore.
She's a very normal person, she's not crazy loud sjw type, but I don't want her to believe that because I don't call her whatever she wants I don't appreciate her, because I do. And I feel bad because in my house she's probably the one I get along the best, we've been supporting each other in many stuff. She's probably the only person in my house that knows I'm a lesbian, so I know what is like not having the support you want from other people.
I just hope none of this scalates into any serious stuff for stupid ideology shit, I do love my sister and she has done so much for me, but I don't believe in this "neither male or female" bullshit and I'm not willing to lie to her in order to please her ideology because I know that she's just someone who prefers to not be a super feminine woman who just wants to label herself to feel special.
My sister has asked me to occasionally refer to her with male pronouns because she's "Non Binary" now.
Her nonbinary thing is something she told me before but I've been ignoring it for a while and taking advantage of her saying "I don't mind any pronouns" I just called her a she anyways.
I'm going to still use she/her on her because I don't believe in any of this nonsense anymore. But the thing is, there was a time I did. And she had a trans dude phase which at the time I respected and played along because I didn't knew better. I thought she grew up out of that because she stopped insisting on being called a man. But now she calls herself nonbinary and I don't believe in transgender identities anymore.
I don't dislike my sister. To some degree I'm fine letting her live her life in the way she wants to, after all she's an adult, but I'm afraid about the future now that I don't want to play along anymore.
She's a very normal person, she's not crazy loud sjw type, but I don't want her to believe that because I don't call her whatever she wants I don't appreciate her, because I do. And I feel bad because in my house she's probably the one I get along the best, we've been supporting each other in many stuff. She's probably the only person in my house that knows I'm a lesbian, so I know what is like not having the support you want from other people.
I just hope none of this scalates into any serious stuff for stupid ideology shit, I do love my sister and she has done so much for me, but I don't believe in this "neither male or female" bullshit and I'm not willing to lie to her in order to please her ideology because I know that she's just someone who prefers to not be a super feminine woman who just wants to label herself to feel special.
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this is basically the crux of transgenderism, in my experience. they are people who hurt on the inside for any number of reasons and believe that transitioning is the only thing that can actually help them. it's essentially a trauma response. is it any wonder that trans people are so vindictive and quick to lash out considering that?
almost every trans person I've met in real life comes from a broken home -- divorce, domestic abuse, whatever. i thought it was just a me thing at first but after reading a bit of this thread it seems like a more global problem than I'd anticipated.
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Lot easier to flip out about pronouns than to buckle down and get your GED. Definitely a jobstopper if you're volatile enough about them and you're in the low, replaceable rungs of the service industry.
Which of course is great fodder for complaining to your online hugbox; easier to gripe about how you can't fill out a form because of that hated [_] F than it is to sit down and do the boring studying, and you'll get tons of people psyching you up to keep on that spiral.
Not that this is intentional on her part, just that that's how the sides of the crab bucket are lubed. Do you have any local trade programs you can point her at? Any work-finding resources she was referred to at mandatory rehab? If she were a real man of her age and socioeconomic status, she'd be making bad decisions while working semi-legally in construction, so she'd at least get to feel the money on its way to being converted into weed and Monster.
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Is it something like "Robynn" or "Jayden"? I know something hast got to be replaced with an X or Y somewhere.
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As Lenin may or may not have said: "Destroy the family, destroy the country."
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In the very early stages of the social rot, I worked with a pooner. Started as a soft butch lesbian, in a relationship with another pooner with EDS...
She changed from her birth name--which was one of the first ones you'd think of if you were making a list of androgynous names--to a different androgynous name with the vowels replaced by "y."
I wasn't working the day she had a giant fit about misgendering in the middle of a shift and quit on the spot.
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Yes, and it's more cringeworthy than both of those.
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I forgot that was your username and nearly had a stroke.
If everything fails, you can feel sadness and loss but be assured you did your best. Do not be surprised if she turns out like Chris: hundreds of people tried to help him or positively troll him into doing better, but Chris only responded to what he wanted. You'll do what you can, but if it doesn't work, it wasn't your fault. It was her choice and her personality.
Sadly, that's a realization she has to come to on her own. She has to realize that because you disagree with her doesn't mean she's less of a person or not worthy of respect, that she isn't someone you care for deeply. Because she's all those. It monumentally hard to control someone's thoughs, so I feel you.
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A close friend of mine (10+ years) moved back home years ago to look for a better job, I went to visit him right before covid, and when he picked me up at the airport, there he was.....in a wig and fucking mini skirt (Hes fat, balding, and apparently he forgot how to shave). Funny thing is, my first though is "DONT SAY ANYTHING. DONT SAY ANYTHING OR IT WILL BLOW UP" lmao
I'm glad I was staying at a hotel near him instead of with him (he's been mooching off his parents ever since he had to declare bankruptcy), and not with them.
Since then, I've slowly been cutting off ties. I don't wanna deal with that shit.
I'm glad I was staying at a hotel near him instead of with him (he's been mooching off his parents ever since he had to declare bankruptcy), and not with them.
Since then, I've slowly been cutting off ties. I don't wanna deal with that shit.
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I'd been worried he was gonna ask me to help him lift a couch into the back of his van.
You're a braver man than me getting in a car with a guy that looks like Buffalo Bill. I hope you were carrying.
Joe Lieberman
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Without PLing, can you share why he had to declare bankruptcy? Was it an unfortunate situation or mounting retardation?
TheTDman
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Nope lol. Had to rely on what I knew about him, and how troons normally act to prevent the meltdown.
I'd been worried he was gonna ask me to help him lift a couch into the back of his van.
You're a braver man than me getting in a car with a guy that looks like Buffalo Bill. I hope you were carrying.
Like I said, that's more shit I don't need to or want to deal with. If he wants to play pretend and cut his dick off, leave me out of it.
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He spent his money on stupid shit. He has this ...four five year "thing" on trying to fit in, so he would get into something, and then have to OD on getting everything'. He once got into bikeriding, spent like 4-5 grand on just a bike - even got that ugly hat they usually wear (he wore this everywhere he went at one point). Guess he couldn't afford his CC bills, I didn't dig into it much.
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Sounds like she wanted to quit and the "misgendering" gave her an excuse to do it in a way where she'd get asspats for leaving.
Joe Lieberman
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This is what I was expecting - this is sadly very common. I know someone else who declared bankruptcy due to being a moron, and when I found out what the details were, it turned out it was not that much money ($30K). You can turn that around in consumer spending debt within a couple of years if you play your cards right, pursue more lucrative career paths and make lifestyle changes, but that's anathema to how these people think.