Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Sperghetti]

I've seen it myself. They convert overnight and become a robot that only talks about gender issues with an incredibly obnoxious histrionic and self-righteous tone that makes you want to hate crime them. I know the bemusement you're feeling is hard to describe, but I get it. Seeing someone change like that instantly, there's no words to describe it. You can only wonder what the fuck is going on.

They go from talking about completely normal things to 95% of their life is everything gender, politics, and wokeness related. It's like this sick switch flips on.

They’re like the old stereotype of vegans, except you're actually allowed to make fun of vegans for being pretentious and annoying.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I've been thinking that their favorite euphemism for brainwashing and grooming someone into fetish obsessed deviance is actually sort of accurate, "cracking eggs" - they're not hatching anything, when you crack an egg you destroy any potential for life it may have had, all the possibilities the eggs future held, and you get left with a gooey mess that if not immediately cooked over a fire will start to stink of decay within a short time.

 

[Näkki]

She drove away all her non-cult friends.
I wouldn't be quick reject her if she was sincerely trying to reconnect. She probably feels ashamed of ignoring your old messages.

Don't slam the door unless she is actually hurting your life

I wasn't the one that slammed the door. Technically I was banging on it for a long time..

I do understand what you mean. I feel horrible myself, but I know I'd have to go all crypto again and it would likely be a lot of walking on eggshells and trying to avoid topics— which they themselves bring up..

So as in my post, told her I loved her still, missed her but I'm a terf. Have been most of the time we've been friends in general. But, despite everything, I'd always be there for her if I can help her in any way. Though I do understand if she doesn't feel like contact after finding that out. (guess the radfem board I had never tipped her off before)

The rest is up to her. I won't lie and bend myself out of shape anymore, especially not for someone who ignored me for two years — desperately trying to figure out what I did wrong. "nothing." As in my last post, I "respect" pronouns and name changes. But I also respect my own mental health and I refuse to go through this for the fourth(?) time without setting certain things straight and establishing some boundaries.

It's been a week, so I assume she made her choice.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I wasn't the one that slammed the door. Technically I was banging on it for a long time..

I do understand what you mean. I feel horrible myself, but I know I'd have to go all crypto again and it would likely be a lot of walking on eggshells and trying to avoid topics— which they themselves bring up..

So as in my post, told her I loved her still, missed her but I'm a terf. Have been most of the time we've been friends in general. But, despite everything, I'd always be there for her if I can help her in any way. Though I do understand if she doesn't feel like contact after finding that out. (guess the radfem board I had never tipped her off before)

The rest is up to her. I won't lie and bend myself out of shape anymore, especially not for someone who ignored me for two years — desperately trying to figure out what I did wrong. "nothing." As in my last post, I "respect" pronouns and name changes. But I also respect my own mental health and I refuse to go through this for the fourth(?) time without setting certain things straight and establishing some boundaries.

It's been a week, so I assume she made her choice.

Don't see how you have anything to feel bad about. You done all you could, it's like having a friend who turns into a hard-core junkie (I don't mean functioning addict, I know a few of those, mainly thanks to the fucking VA, but someone who seems determined to fuck up their life and everyone around them) comes a point where you gotta walk away, it's just not worth carrying a troon like a dead albatross around your neck always on a fucking tightrope incase you tell them a truth that sets them off.
People like that are emotional vampires, fucking Pity Nosferatus, unless they're 100% ready to put everything behind them and deal with the reality of what they did to your friendship (cause it don't sound like it was you at fault from what you said) it's just gonna drag you back in and fuck with your head.
Life's too short, and Pooners and Troons are poison.

 

[Twice Baked Turnip]

I've come to a disturbing conclusion recently in regards to one of my long term friends and I feel foolish for not noticing the glaring amount of red flags that this man has. He might as well be communicating in semaphore with how many god damn red flags he's waving around. I noticed a pattern of behavior where he will get into relationships with women as a man and after the one year mark that's when he rips off the mask and pulls the troon nonsense. There are no warning signs at all that it's coming. None. These women just wake up one day to a guy in ill-fitting grandma clothes and terribly applied make-up smiling over them. When the women push back and try to gain some form of understanding about the whiplash that just took place, he begins to guilt trip and browbeat them into submission. He has even gone so far as to enlist friends and acquaintances of his to manipulate these women into staying with him.

Unsurprisingly, this isn't what any of the women signed up for. They thought they had landed a handsome man with a good career. Some of these women suffer from mental illness, lack a support system or have unstable housing. AKA they are vulnerable. He encourages them to leave their jobs or drop out of college because he'll take care of them. In some cases he has paid for them to move to his state from the other side of the country. So, even if they wanted to leave he's trapped them. They're isolated and broke. He can even pull the crazy card on them. It's standard abuser behavior. Thankfully, all the women have been able to get the fuck out of dodge within a matter of months, but as soon as they're gone he slips the mask back on and starts hunting for his next victim.

I've lost count of how many times he's done this. Every time it's brushed off as if the women were the problem. They couldn't handle the real him or some bullshit. I don't know why I never noticed how fucked up this was. It always felt off, but it never gave me danger vibes. Maybe the rose tinted glasses of childhood and lacking the emotional energy to care were the culprits. Maybe I'm a retard who just figured out how connect the dot puzzles work. Losing him isn't worth mourning, it's just sad to know what he truly is.

 

[Protistology]

Skinwalkers.
Once the Cult gets its claws into them it's like they're different people, like the Pod People from that old movie, just creepy soulless replicas that look like the person you remember (sort of lol) but are just hollow shells, with all their personality and soul rotted out and replaced with fetish porn and deviance, and their mission in life becomes to spread the sickness, to "crack eggs."
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Fucking creeps.

 

[Procrastinhater]

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Now thats a fucking disturbing observation.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I noticed a pattern of behavior where he will get into relationships with women as a man and after the one year mark that's when he rips off the mask and pulls the troon nonsense. There are no warning signs at all that it's coming. None. These women just wake up one day to a guy in ill-fitting grandma clothes and terribly applied make-up smiling over them.

. Some of these women suffer from mental illness, lack a support system or have unstable housing. AKA they are vulnerable. He encourages them to leave their jobs or drop out of college because he'll take care of them. In some cases he has paid for them to move to his state from the other side of the country.

Holy shit.

I get that you just put this together and are still trying to process it, and that friend groups are encouraged not to Notice things these days, but your friend sounds terrifying. He does this repeatedly?

When he brings his long-distance girlfriend around to meet everyone, does one of the wives pull her aside and warn her to keep her bag packed, give her the heads-up that Doug is going to show up in a dress one night? Or do you all just make awkward eye contact with each other and know that yeah, you aren't really going to have to remember this woman's name in a couple of weeks?

Does your friend ever just suddenly have a newly-poured patio, maybe a swimming pool?

 

[booklover]

A friend who is currently living in a very small, tight knit community recently visited us recently. He told me that a member of that community recently committed suicide, and that there was more anger than grief for many, because the people who were close to her are so gutted that they can't function. As a result, massive ripples of dysfunction have affected even those who weren't particularly familiar with her. It's a massive impact on the entire community's functioning. Grief is only part of it.

I am very familiar with despair but the suicide of a physically and neurologically healthy person is ultimately a very selfish act. It is incredibly traumatic for friends and family, and the services that have to clean up the corpse. Anger is a very common feeling for the people left behind.

A person who was healthy ON THE SURFACE. Chances are, this person had something going on that other people didn't know about.

 

[Twice Baked Turnip]

Holy shit.

I get that you just put this together and are still trying to process it, and that friend groups are encouraged not to Notice things these days, but your friend sounds terrifying. He does this repeatedly?

When he brings his long-distance girlfriend around to meet everyone, does one of the wives pull her aside and warn her to keep her bag packed, give her the heads-up that Doug is going to show up in a dress one night? Or do you all just make awkward eye contact with each other and know that yeah, you aren't really going to have to remember this woman's name in a couple of weeks?

Does your friend ever just suddenly have a newly-poured patio, maybe a swimming pool?

Yes, he does this repeatedly. There are a couple reasons why this has flown under the radar. The first being is that there is no friend group for the latest victims. The first two victims were from our childhood friend group and we weren't sure how to handle it at the time. This was during a time period where the whole transgender thing wasn't really a thing yet. He's also lost a lot of friends over the years. No one from our childhood talks to him anymore outside of me and I'm probably going to cut contact soon. I know he was kicked out of a different friend group for being a sex pest. At the time he said he was accused of false rape allegations, but now I'm not so sure. The only friends he has are internet weirdos that he spends hours roleplaying with. The second reason, is that nobody has eyes on him anymore. Nobody who knows of him lives near him anymore. If he doesn't tell people what he's doing and no one is around to see it then no one is going to call him out on it. A lot of the stuff I know is because he has told me himself. Which concerns me because if he's so casual about telling me this kind of stuff, imagine what he doesn't tell me. The last reason is that he comes from a wealthy family and he makes a lot of money himself. He's been able to make most of his problems disappear by throwing money at them throughout his life.

I've never said anything to any of the women. I know that sounds cowardly, but I know he reads the text messages of his partners and he can just play the crazy card against me. There were also some women who were just flat out hostile towards me. It wasn't worth the drama. I have enough problems as is. Besides, I don't have any physical proof to back my claims up. So, who are they going to believe? The new love of their life or some random person they don't know? A few of them have reached out to me after they leave him. They do stick around for at least a year. He's able to keep the façade going for quite a long time. At one point he kept it going for three years only to surprise the lady right as they were about to get married.

I haven't seen his new house, so I don't know about any new swimming pools or patios. That being said, I can't see him pulling off any type of manual labor. He's pretty useless in that department. I don't think he can even use a shovel. Knowing him he'd probably dispose of a body by shoving it in a closest somewhere in his house. Then celebrating with a copious amount of drugs and questionable porn.

 

[booklover]

So, how does this guy make a living? Does he mooch off those women, or what?

 

[NerdShamer]

So, how does this guy make a living? Does he mooch off those women, or what?

I won't be surprised if he's an "sex worker" or something

 

[Mad_Dog]

I've been thinking that their favorite euphemism for brainwashing and grooming someone into fetish obsessed deviance is actually sort of accurate, "cracking eggs" - they're not hatching anything, when you crack an egg you destroy any potential for life it may have had, all the possibilities the eggs future held, and you get left with a gooey mess that if not immediately cooked over a fire will start to stink of decay within a short time.

Perfect analogy. Only a freshly cracked egg has potential to feed someone, but the ones that cracked before you noticed are dangerous and need to be thrown into the trash immediately. The longer the egg has been cracked, the worse it gets. not only that, but the putrid sulfurous smell reminds one of the hellish realms of the underworld from whence they came.

 

[SIMIΔN]

We have a 60 page thread on dating pre-op pooners.
Freshly cracked eggs have their fans.

 

[Kiislova]

We have a 60 page thread on dating pre-op pooners.
Freshly cracked eggs have their fans.

Which thread? Beyond the not-so-meme that those easy-ish women that cut their hair short used to be called "Tomboys". Tomboys still have a market, only nowadays they are a transitional state between woman and rotdog owner.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Freshly cracked eggs have their fans.

Its discount pussy. More than fans its hobos buying eggs from the clearance aisle.

 

[Monolith]

I've finally been informed of the reason I was silently removed from a semi-online group last year. It turns out, it was because I referred to an admin who looks like the guy below as "he." Offline. In passing. I never once had a real conversation with him.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Which thread? Beyond the not-so-meme that those easy-ish women that cut their hair short used to be called "Tomboys". Tomboys still have a market, only nowadays they are a transitional state between woman and rotdog owner.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-ethics-of-sex-with-trans-identified-females.172364/

 

[Twice Baked Turnip]

So, how does this guy make a living? Does he mooch off those women, or what?

He works rather high up in the tech industry. I know, shocker. He exclusively works from home, so he's with these women all day every day until he troons out. In the times when he's not seeing anyone he uses the free time to indulge in his fetish during the work day.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

He works rather high up in the tech industry

if Satan had his kingdom on earth the headquarters would be in Silicon Valley