Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[AMHOLIO]

It's funny, TiFs think being a man is going to be fun and freeing but then don't realize the amount of expectations and things are placed on a man.

And then TiMs think women also have the easy life but then realize that it's not that great

Being a human in society is hard. It's a hard lesson to learn if you're prone to black and white thinking, someone out there MUST have it better, how do I find the switch...?

Conservatives have been completely caught asleep at the switch on this and they've paid a heavy price. Now they're trying to play catch-up.

I hate to ask this but WTF were conservatives doing all this time? Education is the foundation of our workforce and the ability to fucking read means everything. Listen, I'll take responsibility for dems being fags, but I need some dual culpability for fucking up and dropping the ball on this.

Or as I like to say - wherever you go, there you are

Truly, the most horrifying statement. I keep thinking about this whenever I read the Kevin Gibes thread and those of other troons like him. Really, any cow or person who reinvents their image. It's heartbreaking when you see it happen to IRL associates.

She's a therapist for LGBT youth, I know her, we had a heated disagreement over the T shit and trans youth is her specialty, she generally comes off like she's a psychopath.

Oh Christ. I'm so fucking sorry to you and your friends as well as her patients.

We've got a countdown going to when he cuts contact with us now. The dude isn't a fucking dumbass, I hope if we show him the SRS thread and the "Results" maybe he can have a moment of clarity.

I hope so, but remember, the sunk cost fallacy is a bitch. Might be better to do it sooner than later, and make sure to look up cult deterrents and such since smart people get suckered into cults all the time.

God I can't wait for this T shit to collapse in on itself, I can see it's starting to but it's not going fast enough.

Me too, man, me too.

* - A little goes a long way, let's just say I know through various mutuals the state she leaves (or tries to, she's not that good at it, luckily) her exes in. I swear we'll find a way to get her license fucked.

Godspeed.

Weirdly enough he still has his conservative beliefs and he's in total denial saying shit like "femboy is still better then being trans" but i'm afraid we've already lost him. He also admitted to finding furfag shit hot

I love Catylin Jenner trans women. Can't wait until he goes full "tee hee women stupid sex bimbos tee hee". Sorry man, he's fucking gone.

I just think it's funny that kiwis call women "nature's perfection" in that troon pasta but then they go back to bitching about women.

This implies they stand 100% behind the pasta when in reality a number of people do it just to low effort troll someone, rightfully so.

He suddenly started ranting about hormone injections in a chat and then started spamming pictures of his dick.

Sane, mentally sound human being. What a fucking rollercoaster.

 

[DumbDude42]

I hate to ask this but WTF were conservatives doing all this time?

mostly jerking themselves off about how awesome the free market is while willfully ignoring basically everything else about domestic policy

Spoiler: deeper and more autistic thoughts on the reasons behind their inaction and capitulation

it goes back to ww2. basically the war was seen as a broad ideological confrontation between left and right, and conservatives decided to side with the left against the right. positioning themselves like this resulted in them accepting and propagating the general "left good, right bad" dogma after the war, and if you're operating on a mindset like that you will naturally find it extremely hard to take a serious stand against the left on pretty much anything. if you're officially aligned with this dogma, then all they have to do is remind you of it by saying "this is what hitler would have said!" or "the nazis would have agreed with you!" and your position immediately becomes untenable, so all you can do is concede.

 

[NerdShamer]

I hate to ask this but WTF were conservatives doing all this time?

Reeing about shit and barely doing anything about it.

 

[thog]

My best friend trooned back around November. In the months before that, he came out as "pansexual" (still don't know what that means) and then a few months later non-binary, even though he referred to himself as a "catboy" shudders. I remained in contact with him through all of this, and we were still on good terms, even though I knew in the back of my mind where this was heading.

Then, in November, he announced on his Instagram that he was a Woman and that he would be going on HRT. I reached out to him and told him to really think about it before he put himself on estrogen due to the adverse health effects (increased cancer risk, sterility, etc.) and he sounded surprisingly respectful. I forget how exactly, but I ended up stumbling upon his new troon Twitter account where he berated me in a storm of delusional tweets for expressing my concerns as one of his closest friends since the first grade. I decided that I wouldn't speak a word to him after that.

I still love him, and I pray for him every night. I am thankful that I met a new friend through him who I now consider my best friend.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I am thankful that I met a new friend through him who I now consider my best friend.

 

[Nointey]

My best friend trooned back around November. In the months before that, he came out as "pansexual" (still don't know what that means) and then a few months later non-binary, even though he referred to himself as a "catboy" shudders. I remained in contact with him through all of this, and we were still on good terms, even though I knew in the back of my mind where this was heading.

Then, in November, he announced on his Instagram that he was a Woman and that he would be going on HRT. I reached out to him and told him to really think about it before he put himself on estrogen due to the adverse health effects (increased cancer risk, sterility, etc.) and he sounded surprisingly respectful. I forget how exactly, but I ended up stumbling upon his new troon Twitter account where he berated me in a storm of delusional tweets for expressing my concerns as one of his closest friends since the first grade. I decided that I wouldn't speak a word to him after that.

I still love him, and I pray for him every night. I am thankful that I met a new friend through him who I now consider my best friend.

People like that are a lost cause, they're deluded by the mainstream media and crackheads to the point they believe that any opposition is a detriment to them. I am sorry for you loss fren

 

[thog]

People like that are a lost cause, they're deluded by the mainstream media and crackheads to the point they believe that any opposition is a detriment to them. I am sorry for you loss fren

Thanks. I forgot to mention that he has Asperger's, and because of it he most likely has a hyperfixation on gender. I think that's what leads to many autistic people trooning out.

 

[Die Oberste Direktive]

Had a friend troon out. He was really cool. I think it was his girlfriend that was into femboys that did it. After that his entire personality just became about troon bullshit. And then there was a bro's girlfriend that decided to "not have a gender." Pics in the NB thread. She was pretty hot in RL, I don't know why someone would do that to themselves. I've met a couple other troons in my life and every single one is so fucking self-absorbed that it's definitely part of the problem. All these autistic narcissistic people think they know better than biology. I just wish we could classify this shit as an actual mental disorder.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

and he sounded surprisingly respectful. I forget how exactly, but I ended up stumbling upon his new troon Twitter account where he berated me in a storm of delusional tweets for expressing my concerns

One thing I hate about troons is how they are such cowards. Troons can't even assert themselves gently or firmly to a friend or a loved one. If you're so certain of yourself why don't you have the guts to say how you really feel to a good friend? Nope, only echo chambers will do.

I'm sorry you lost a friend.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

That article might not fit this thread but it have some good points about the transgender revolution.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/08/a_moral_call_to_arms_about_the_transgender_revolution.html

August 18, 2022

A moral call to arms about the transgender revolution​

By Andrea Widburg


People who do not follow conservative news are unaware that our entire medical system has joined teachers in embracing the fantasy of transgenderism, and this is true whether the people involved are true believers, power junkies, or enthralled by the possibility of the millions of dollars tied to drugging and surgically mutilating children. Whatever the motives, it’s time for ordinary people to push back very hard.
I have Libs of Tik Tok on my daily reading list. I go there regularly because it helps me remember why, sometimes at great personal cost, I don’t retire to knitting and travel but, instead, spend most of my waking hours thinking about politics and trying to persuade people to see politics as I do. The importance of Libs of Tik Tok is that she travels through the internet looking at what leftists are proud enough to boast about—and then exposes those boasts to a larger audience than the leftists intended.
A significant portion of the leftists whom Libs of Tik Tok exposes are members of the LGBTQ+++ community or their “allies.” Over the past few years, these people have been increasingly vocal about the goal of “transing” kids. Teachers boast about bringing pronouns to kindergarteners and making sure that their students know that the teachers, with their transgender grooming, are the students’ “real” parents. Crazed parents boast about raising gender-neutral children or realizing that, when their two-year-old son said, “I like pink,” he was desperately saying that he’s really a girl.

Lately, the “transing” that Libs of Tik Tok exposes is about indoctrinating children to embrace toxic chemicals and mutilating surgeries so that they can be their “true” gender. Eli Erlick openly boasts about sending other people’s hormone prescriptions to young people across America. This is illegal in uncountable ways, and Libs of Tik Tok and other anti-trans activists have been trying to get law enforcement to step in. So far, their efforts have been unsuccessful.

Also, lately, hospitals have been boasting about how they give drugs and surgery to young people. When Libs of Tik Tok exposed their videos, the hospitals promptly made the videos private and then lied about them.

Naturally, transactivists and their allies are crying “homophobia” and “hate crime.” Is this true? Are those of us opposed to the transgender agenda haters?

Well, I don’t think so, and neither does Rod Dreher, who has written a detailed article (with links for all the things I mentioned above) in which he contends that it’s time for the good people of America to have a “moral panic” about what’s going on.


Dreher opens by acknowledging that the phrase “moral panic” is a pejorative, referring to overreactions. Examples are witch hunts and the Satanic abuse crazy of the 1990s. But sometimes, says Dreher, we should be morally outraged to the point of panic about a societal trend:

 

[Cilleystring]

Thanks. I forgot to mention that he has Asperger's, and because of it he most likely has a hyperfixation on gender. I think that's what leads to many autistic people trooning out.

People with autism and aspergers seem to account for a fairly large portion of transgenders. Is there a categorization of trans people on this site or anywhere else? I've always broken it down in my own head to these groups, though these categories aren't necessarily mutually exclusive

1. legitimate gender dysphorics
2. sjw transtrenders
3. autogynephiliac fetishists
4. groomed teens/confused autists

 

[Little oak tree]

People with autism and aspergers seem to account for a fairly large portion of transgenders. Is there a categorization of trans people on this site or anywhere else? I've always broken it down in my own head to these groups, though these categories aren't necessarily mutually exclusive

1. legitimate gender dysphorics
2. sjw transtrenders
3. autogynephiliac fetishists
4. groomed teens/confused autists

we all have a bit of everything in ourselves

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

People with autism and aspergers seem to account for a fairly large portion of transgenders. Is there a categorization of trans people on this site or anywhere else? I've always broken it down in my own head to these groups, though these categories aren't necessarily mutually exclusive

1. legitimate gender dysphorics
2. sjw transtrenders
3. autogynephiliac fetishists
4. groomed teens/confused autists

Yes , definitely linked. Is not just memes but a reality that autists are trooning out. Autists are vulnerable and don't have the mechanism to really understand the gaslighting from gender ideology.

Compared to controls, one study found that children and teenagers with diagnosed autism spectrum disorder were 7.59 times more likely to express gender variance, as reported by parents

In 2020, the largest study to date to examine autism and gender identity, which included 641,860 individuals, concluded that transgender and gender-diverse individuals are 3 to 6 times more likely to be autistic than cisgender people. The transgender and gender-diverse individuals also scored higher on self-reported measures of autistic traits, such as sensory sensitivity

Follow-up studies have shown that as gender diversity becomes more socially acceptable, more young people on the autism spectrum are self-identifying as gender nonconforming or transgender.

https://www.elemy.com/studio/mood-disorders/autism-and-gender-identity/

 

[The Ugly One]

I hate to ask this but WTF were conservatives doing all this time? Education is the foundation of our workforce and the ability to fucking read means everything. Listen, I'll take responsibility for dems being fags, but I need some dual culpability for fucking up and dropping the ball on this.

Why does the left run the public schools in this R+35 state?
The government shouldn't be running schools at all!

So you're going to shut down the public schools?
Heavens, no! That would be deeply unpopular.

Well, if you're not going to shut them down, aren't you going to run them, since you control every elected office in the government?
Are you deaf? The government shouldn't be running schools.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

"pansexual" (still don't know what that means)

bi, except you'll fuck troons too
except you won't actually fuck troons, because no one does lmao

in the same way that nonbinary is the current flavor of "i'm not like those other girls," you say you're pan to get asspats despite the fact that in the overwhelming number of cases, they're still exclusively hetero or homo because those sexualities are old hat. turns out letting retarded, attention-seeking teenagers dictate just about anything has wholly predictable results

 

[kittyfucker]

in the same way that nonbinary is the current flavor of "i'm not like those other girls," you say you're pan to get asspats despite the fact that in the overwhelming number of cases, they're still exclusively hetero or homo because those sexualities are old hat. turns out letting retarded, attention-seeking teenagers dictate just about anything has wholly predictable results

I like how every bisexual person I've met was simply sexually attracted to men and women, and every pansexual person I've ever met was ALWAYS into the most depraved fetishes + polyamory + severely mentally ill

 

[Kermit Jizz]

So my friend didn't troon out, but I have a friend who is becoming increasingly radical about tranny shit. In a group discussion some environmental law came up and he went on an unhinged rant about how this impacts trans kids, which I didn't even know he supported till now. He also believes that puberty blockers and hormones are 100% safe an reversable and will get mad if you suggest otherwise, so I suspect he might be in the camp who thinks all children should be put on puberty blockers till the can decide themselves what to do.

I know he hasn't done anything wrong himself, but just the fact he thinks trans kids are legit has made me feel really gross around him. It'd be like if a friend came out in defense of pedos. Sure he might not be one, but seriously what the fuck man.

 

[Apis mellifera]

legitimate gender dysphorics

"legitimate gender dysphorics" are people with unresolved childhood trauma who internalised the idea that they can't be masculine women or feminine men. The gender dysphoria may be legitimate, but let's not pretend that experimental, dangerous body modifications are the only cure for an issue of the mind.

On a different note, an old friend of mine from school has come out as FTM to me. She knew me when I was a regular woman, she knew me when I was in the pits of it, and I still consider her a friend all these years later. I had her over for dinner a few months ago when she was in town, we discussed the changes in our lives, we've both been too busy to keep in touch like we used to in the past. Despite telling her about my experiences and mental state(s), it did nothing to dissuade her. She's an independent adult, of course, but I've loved her like a sibling for years, and I wish I could spare her the mental pain that I went through. I can't help but blame myself a bit, maybe she wouldn't have set herself on this path if she didn't see me do the same thing years ago.

Mistakes are apart of life, of course, we wouldn't be who we are without them, evolution couldn't even exist without it, but I wish I could spare people the pain of making my mistakes. I'd be healthier if I hadn't spent those years on those drugs.

 

[Ser Prize]

mostly jerking themselves off about how awesome the free market is while willfully ignoring basically everything else about domestic policy

Spoiler: deeper and more autistic thoughts on the reasons behind their inaction and capitulation

it goes back to ww2. basically the war was seen as a broad ideological confrontation between left and right, and conservatives decided to side with the left against the right. positioning themselves like this resulted in them accepting and propagating the general "left good, right bad" dogma after the war, and if you're operating on a mindset like that you will naturally find it extremely hard to take a serious stand against the left on pretty much anything. if you're officially aligned with this dogma, then all they have to do is remind you of it by saying "this is what hitler would have said!" or "the nazis would have agreed with you!" and your position immediately becomes untenable, so all you can do is concede.

They effectively rewrote good and evil, making the nazis the new devil.

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

It's fun being in a group that's filled with troons or soon to be troons because they'll post about how politicians are trying to stop kids from being irreversible altered and fucked up by hormones and surgery and get upset. And then I'm just sitting there internally cheering at this shit being destroyed.

Parents of these children are starting to sue the organizations. There are a multitude of detransitioners. And I'm surrounded by troons who really haven't gotten more functional after popping some hormone pills. But if I point that out, they think I'm evil.



My groomed friend: They're doing genocide!

Wow I didn't know that not wanting children to be wheelchair bound due to osteoporosis was genocide. I guess we should just screw with their puberty and fuck up their brains and organs, then. Because we're absolutely helping them when we do that.

When you want to stop children from being altered, you're doing genocide. When you fuck up a child's bones, you're the good guy. Wow who would of thunk.