Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Kupier]

what happened at your big troon mitzvah?

My replies are fucking broken and I wrote too much and went off topic.

My longtime friend and I had a spat over text even though I told myself that wouldn't say anything online that could incriminate me. We're still friends even though he said he's very suprised and disappointed in me. I brought up how fucked this trans shit is and he just jumped to "why is it your business what's in anyone's pants" and "it takes years for people to get treatment" when I brought up things like children getting hormones on their first visit to the doc. I know I was pushing an argument on something neither of us would budge on.

At the get-together, I avoided the troon. He had his hair long and a padded bra. He dressed in normal clothes (aside from the bra) so at least he didn't look like a fool. I was told there was going to be another trans person there, who absolutely was a colorful mess and who I also avoided. My longtime friend had said that the last few years of my life had changed me (military) in a joking way, probably a nod to my apprehension. Nothing else was brought up. The suprise extra people meant that I could avoid the trannies and sit far away from tilhem.

Spoiler

Trans in the military is absolutely an issue I could go on and on about. It's way more complicated than people understand on a surface level. I wish I knew what I know now when these ideas were being floated around back then. Of course the damn military changed me. Theres a zillion of us, and having trans in the mix is a whole other mess. As someone who browsed 4chan for a million years (an arguable male space), and then in a department of 95% men in the military, you learn how men are. And also see how tifs are a joke and how tims are predators. Moving on...

My recent brushes with this issue have shown that I can't hide my feelings on this. I've met a young girl at a friend's family gathering, who I bonded very quickly with, but who goes by "he" and named herself after a fictional character from a game series that I guessed right off the bat. I rolled with what she wanted (didn't question anything, including name), but I had another lifelong friend ask me wtf was going on with "him" when we were in private and I "peaked" (I hate the phrase) the shit out of her. She is not into social politics at all and very open to what I had to say. She's a tough woman and doesn't need my advice, but I hope I filled her in on this phenomenon.

Her sister is another story, who works with alphabet people in a more normie job, and who also doesn't risk ever offending people. She just wants everyone to be happy. This means slightly bending to gender demands. This has really shown me that I can't hold back from sperging out on this issue. I snapped at her a little at our last get-together when she wasn't sure how to approach a vendor because she couldn't they if they were a "he, she, or they". Like, did it fucking matter? Just give them your damn money. Their gender should be "hey, you" in this situation. This friend also works with children, with a co-worker who goes by "they" and is apparantly very pretentious about it. They get upset when you don't use "they", and it is apparantly very confusing for the children to play along with this. If my friend sees how attention-seeking this behavior is, why does she bother to play along? She just wants to make people happy, though - dare I say it, typical female submissive behavior. But also something that is natural and a defense mechanism in these days. If you don't play along, you get financially punished and socially ostracized for defending yourself. When men prance in dresses of their own free will, they are apparantly also ostracized for expressing their true selves, but I digress...

 

[Fapcop]

I work as an elementary school counselor and thought I would never run into troonery of any sort but this year has been full of surprises.

I'm working with a girl who has a broken and shitty family, nothing too crazy at first but lots of separation and children from different dads under one roof. This girl deals with a lot but has a great attitude and is always smiling. She draws and writes letters to distant family and leaves me notes about how thankful she is to meet with me. Sometimes when we meet she uses my whiteboard to give little presentations about her week. Great kid. Then one day she starts telling me about her 16 year old brother, only she keeps mixing up pronouns from he to she. She explains her brother is now her sister and she has a hard time remembering what words to use. She then tells me the police came to their house "again" last night because her troon brother grabbed an axe and assaulted their stepdad. She and the mom hid in a bedroom and called 911. I guess the cops talked to the troon outside and just brought him back in like nothing happened and she's afraid it will happen again, as this isn't the first time they've called 911 on this dude.

Naturally I'm highly fucking concerned and check with some people to make sure every organization that could do something about it knows. I meet with the mom and she is clearly out of her depth and looks haggard. She gives some background detail and admits it has been hard for her and all I can think about is this 2nd grade girl who shares a roof with a potential troon axe murderer.

I know this isn't really losing someone to troonery but I am deathly afraid that this kid or any other that I work with will fall prey to this shit. Trans stuff keeps coming up even at elementary and we just put free tampons and pads in the boys bathrooms here which blows me away. Of course the kindergarteners just emptied the thing immediately but fuck, I really think it's coming here too and the thought of losing one of my kids to that shit haunts me.

Poor girl.

She probably won’t be axed, but with a troon degenerate in the house, there’s a solid risk of diddling.

Any chance you can call CPS, and file a report that the troon is being misgendered and has “unsupportive” parents?

It’s probably the best chance of getting the girl out of harms way.

I wouldn’t wish foster care on anyone, but let’s be real. That boy is beyond saving anyways.

 

[Heinous McAnus]

As a professional step cuck, i took over my wifes boys position as full time father nearly two years ago when the eldest found evidence new mommy was fucking around on his dad and when she pulled the, "I was just catfishing em bro" he said no more, stood up and moved in with us, bringing his brother for many more reasons than just her being a ho bag.
We live in the best schooling area in not only our state but in the surrounding ones too... only problem is they moved from a qanon fueled bible thumping "Home school" that basically used them for free farm labor, the transition has been very difficult with both of them struggling both with schoolwork and navigating the more complicated social structures of high school with the expeirience of elementary students.
The truest struggle has been the fact that despite the schools performance, they are super woke af, in a super woke college town. Now i myself consider myself a pretty centralized political person with a very strong, "You do you in your home, ill do me in mine." but the troonery is fucking stupid... over half the school is alphabet people... and their permeating indoctrination of other young students is horrifying.
I try to seek help from other parents and online support groups, but i cannot find anything that fits anywhere between, "Get that boy who likes pink in dresses and on hormones right the fuck now" or "Your son done went got the devil in him and you need to pray and beat him until all the faggot falls out of him" it is always the two extremes and there is no middle ground mapped out.
As a father i feel in the woods and powerless, doubly so because i know i am merely a surrogate, and only their primary father figure rn because of a dumb whore.
A deep part of me keeps telling me to do my best and dont really hold anything against myself because they arent my true blood, but as a person who was practically adopted by my own steparent, one who stood up to the task and taught me that a mother was not who popped you out but the woman who gave you unconditional love. I struggle with the urge to help them. i feel like a blacksmith working with two knives that are already cooling fast and ready to be dipped but i have to beat them so hard to temper em as much as i can.
I try to show them my path, but they are walking through a dark forest i never had too and my maps are only half helpful, I want to keep my children safe from the social predators of the troons getting off on changing my son. I have already had to begin draconian measures as i have found correspondence of them requesting how to get hormones from all the poor awkward kids that these other parents are destroying when they just need a fucking hug and to be told the story of the ugly duckling.
forgive all the powerleveling and textwall... ima fucking boomer who only joined this forum, after lurking kf since about 2014, to have a place to discuss presisely this problem before the internet completely removes a place for rational folk to discuss these things without a clear and total bias one way or another. I dont see this place lasting in its current form for many more years.
This thread has been helpful to both me and my wife, and our hearts go out to all those who have lost loved ones to this degenerate lunacy, godspeed fellow kiwis

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

As a professional step cuck, i took over my wifes boys position as full time father nearly two years ago when the eldest found evidence new mommy was fucking around on his dad and when she pulled the, "I was just catfishing em bro" he said no more, stood up and moved in with us, bringing his brother for many more reasons than just her being a ho bag.
We live in the best schooling area in not only our state but in the surrounding ones too... only problem is they moved from a qanon fueled bible thumping "Home school" that basically used them for free farm labor, the transition has been very difficult with both of them struggling both with schoolwork and navigating the more complicated social structures of high school with the expeirience of elementary students.
The truest struggle has been the fact that despite the schools performance, they are super woke af, in a super woke college town. Now i myself consider myself a pretty centralized political person with a very strong, "You do you in your home, ill do me in mine." but the troonery is fucking stupid... over half the school is alphabet people... and their permeating indoctrination of other young students is horrifying.
I try to seek help from other parents and online support groups, but i cannot find anything that fits anywhere between, "Get that boy who likes pink in dresses and on hormones right the fuck now" or "Your son done went got the devil in him and you need to pray and beat him until all the faggot falls out of him" it is always the two extremes and there is no middle ground mapped out.
As a father i feel in the woods and powerless, doubly so because i know i am merely a surrogate, and only their primary father figure rn because of a dumb whore.
A deep part of me keeps telling me to do my best and dont really hold anything against myself because they arent my true blood, but as a person who was practically adopted by my own steparent, one who stood up to the task and taught me that a mother was not who popped you out but the woman who gave you unconditional love. I struggle with the urge to help them. i feel like a blacksmith working with two knives that are already cooling fast and ready to be dipped but i have to beat them so hard to temper em as much as i can.
I try to show them my path, but they are walking through a dark forest i never had too and my maps are only half helpful, I want to keep my children safe from the social predators of the troons getting off on changing my son. I have already had to begin draconian measures as i have found correspondence of them requesting how to get hormones from all the poor awkward kids that these other parents are destroying when they just need a fucking hug and to be told the story of the ugly duckling.
forgive all the powerleveling and textwall... ima fucking boomer who only joined this forum, after lurking kf since about 2014, to have a place to discuss presisely this problem before the internet completely removes a place for rational folk to discuss these things without a clear and total bias one way or another. I dont see this place lasting in its current form for many more years.
This thread has been helpful to both me and my wife, and our hearts go out to all those who have lost loved ones to this degenerate lunacy, godspeed fellow kiwis

I don't really have any advice other than monitor their internet and never ever allow them on discord if you can. Make up something about pedo rings if you have to, it's not even a lie at this point. You're doing a good job regardless because you care, I hope you and your wife modelling how to be sane adults can get them through the worst of it.

 

[Ghostie with the Mostie]

Obligatory long time lurker- but finding this thread made me finally join you retards.

My partner has a brother who he used to be extremely close with, like best friends. He was a bit off but nice all the same. Then he got an overseas girlfriend who is a whole bag of trouble. She pretends to be a dog, pretends to have D.I.D, has turbo autism and is a trans man. She is 10000% faking it for attention, and it's causing such a strain on my partners family as they are losing their son to this madness. My partner and him have drifted apart because who wants to deal with a girlfriend like that, and it's heartbreaking. My partners family had them for two weeks over xmas to stay- all they did was cause fights, pretend to be a toddler, leech money off them and just ruin christmas basically.

I think it's insanity that they put up with their son being with someone like this, and also starting to copy the behaviour of, but if i say anything I'm a TERF. Thought you fellow Kiwis may be able to sympathise.

 

[Tard Whisperer]

The truest struggle has been the fact that despite the schools performance, they are super woke af, in a super woke college town. Now i myself consider myself a pretty centralized political person with a very strong, "You do you in your home, ill do me in mine." but the troonery is fucking stupid... over half the school is alphabet people... and their permeating indoctrination of other young students is horrifying.
I try to seek help from other parents and online support groups, but i cannot find anything that fits anywhere between, "Get that boy who likes pink in dresses and on hormones right the fuck now" or "Your son done went got the devil in him and you need to pray and beat him until all the faggot falls out of him" it is always the two extremes and there is no middle ground mapped out.

What a terrifying position to be in. You may want to read some stories on "Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans" (PITT): https://pitt.substack.com. Genspect has published a great guide on this for parents based around actually protecting the child, and an online support group: https://genspect.org/parents-and-relatives/ You also might find some episodes of Gender: A Wider Lens helpful: https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/

 

[Heinous McAnus]

What a terrifying position to be in. You may want to read some stories on "Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans" (PITT): https://pitt.substack.com. Genspect has published a great guide on this for parents based around actually protecting the child, and an online support group: https://genspect.org/parents-and-relatives/ You also might find some episodes of Gender: A Wider Lens helpful: https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/

Thank you very much for this material, ive only just started scratching at the surface but already it has given me a bit of optimism and helped taken away some of the shitty feeling of impotence I've been having about the whole thing.

This thread is something important, as much as I have loved lurking the gossip sektors of this site, ive found alot here i didn't expect. To all the others in this thread, take heart, share your story, you would be shocked just how many people need to hear yours to help them through their own heartbreak.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I am grateful to live in Latin America, here this tranny bullshit is still not so normalized (Those are first world problems)

unless its argentina we are talking about. Argentina was pozzed before even the United States.

Someone i was intimate with and had on and off relationship started going fucking nuts and had a phase of talking about moving to Argentina to change genders. There's not much else to this story, i don't contact her anymore, she never did it far as i know , she was just a psycho retard, but several people in branching circles did go through with it, lots of gays and lesbos went there to marry too, its always Argentina or Spain.

 

[Spiny Rumples]

One of my close friends from high school went MtF and even got bottom surgery (disowned by parents for that).

Correction! The father is still on bad terms with them, but the rest of the family has remained connected. I cried tears of joy when I heard.

 

[teriyakiburns]

unless its argentina we are talking about. Argentina was pozzed before even the United States

Or Brazil. That place is pozzed to fuck and back, from what I can clean from friends I have over there. Trannies everywhere.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Or Brazil. That place is pozzed to fuck and back, from what I can clean from friends I have over there. Trannies everywhere.

Checks out

 

[Mrs. Addams]

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I wonder why trans porn is such a thing... My trans friend said that was how he started falling down the rabbit hole.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I wonder why trans porn is such a thing... My trans friend said that was how he started falling down the rabbit hole.

i dunno, i think brazilians are just born and raised coomers. That stuff have been in hentai for a long time. Its also fetish self hating shut ins fall into, like you'd have to be so shut off from reality that sexuality starts becoming abstract like in those weird hentai fetishes, then the AGP feels hits.

 

[spergingandbrave]

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Funnily enough Italy is mentioned on this list. I have a relative who lives there and apparently the pizzafolk fucking despise trannies. Even the progressive party never mentions them- if they bring up LGBT+ rights, it's mostly about gay couples.

 

[Yukako]

I found one of my former classmates on a dating app. She's now an enby who goes by "Hugo" and wants a poly relationship.

She used to be a tomboy with ginger hair, but that's shaven off and dyed. It makes me wonder how many other people have fallen victim to this.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

Funnily enough Italy is mentioned on this list. I have a relative who lives there and apparently the pizzafolk fucking despise trannies. Even the progressive party never mentions them- if they bring up LGBT+ rights, it's mostly about gay couples.

It's interesting to know since Italy is also one of the first countries to have legal gender recognition law, so what is put in the law to make the country seem progressive may not be what people really believe in.

On the other hand, it's a pizza troon who peaked me back then though.

 

[Stoner Metal]

I found one of my former classmates on a dating app. She's now an enby who goes by "Hugo" and wants a poly relationship.

Hugo, Felix, Oliver, Sebastian.. so many of them choose these twee sounding names like they are storybook street kids in old England or orphans in Paris or some shit. I don't get it.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Hugo, Felix, Oliver, Sebastian.. so many of them choose these twee sounding names like they are storybook street kids in old England or orphans in Paris or some shit. I don't get it.

They's poor oppressed orphan boys, sir, so that's why they relate so much to them.

 

[Vingle]

It's interesting to know since Italy is also one of the first countries to have legal gender recognition law, so what is what put in the law to make the country progressive may not be what people really believe in.

It's nice to know, but it's common that politicians and the government absolutely ignore their promises from before being chosen.
Politician is more like a novel name for scam artist, and democracy is just an idea they like to calm down the masses with.

And about the name Hugo. I only think of Hugo Boss when that name gets mentioned, and he designed the nazi uniforms.
They could name themselves Adolf at least.

 

[Logoden]

My trans friend said that was how he started falling down the rabbit hole.

I am not surprised after what I have seen and experienced for 10 years. I have seen some porn creators going deeper and deeper, leaning more and more into hardcore stuff. This is not just a single rabbit hole, it is the start of a network of tunnels at this point. It can start with soft TG kinks, then you get attracted to similar "TF" stuff, then to "Furry" stuff, etc. Until you reach the nasty stuff like bestiality, rape, shotas/loli, etc(I have never been this far)

Also if those "AI" tools are going to get better, expect the transgender porn production to augment both in speed and volume. It is already catching up in those communities.

This is a bit offtopic as I technically lost no one to it but it's about how I partially got rid of it. I have those desires and feelings far less now but I still have them, I just have accepted what I am. So :
1. After reaching a certain age I started asking myself more and more questions like "What's the point ?"or "I love nature, the situation is fucked-up, what do I do ?". Then I thought about this sex/gender problem I have. Do I realy deserve a chance to change myself ? Is it a necessity to do it for me to live well and healthy ? What environmental impact will it have on the long term ? What will happens in the family if I do it ? Do I want children ? I quickly came to the conclusion that I should not do it.
2. The facts : I started to look for statistics, costs and long term effects. At last I had all the info needed to affirm my previous decision.
3. The porn : I have been in that shit for more that 10 years now, it can calm some urges and thoughts in a cathartic way i guess. To reach more reasonnable level of consumption I tried to shift my hedonistic habbits into more nourishing/healthy performatives activities(drawing, playing hard video games, reading all sorts of things, sports, etc).
4. Later I fully realised how much this craze damaged many social circles, online or IRL. First by Landing on Kiwifarm and reading a thread about the "Tranny horror show" and this very thread later on. Secondly by having a bad experience with someone close to me, she was highly expecting me to do a "coming out", I pushed back, she did not took it well though. Some previously normal folks I knew would have see me being chopped without batting an eye, scary and horrifying in a way. Some of them just did not know better :/
TL;DR : Building a moral code and knowing a few cold hard facts allowed me to avoid the worst.

Now if you do not want your children to fall prey to those shit you might have be extra protective and very controlling until they have a certain maturity/independancy of mind(young adults does not always know better either). Don't let your kids hang around in bad places if you do not want them to become street-rats. It is the same for the Internet, as it is becoming more and more savage, predatory and full of degenerats by the days. If I had children, I would certainly not let them freely roam the net like I was able to do back in 2008, not until they are ready.