Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Gruel Ghoul]

I have an insufferable "special" woman in my social group. We were good friends when we were kids. Her being a nonbinary demishit isn't even the worst thing about her. If someone did one thing in the past that she didn't like, she will NEVER stop "joking" about how much she hates them.

She did it to me. What did I say? That I didn't like it when girls had short hair. When did I say that? When I was fucking twelve. How long has it been? Over a decade. And sometimes she STILL mentions it in front of me. Ironic, considering my hair is now akin to a pixie cut. She did it to my little brother who said some dumb shit to her when he was a kid. She did it to my friend's grandmother, which made going to D&D sessions at her house not only insufferable, but extremely embarrasing.

Another thing she does is that she will constantly talk about how she has autism (she definitely doesn't) and can't understand social cues. But will text me soon after she is out of my presence, asking why I'm so uncomfortable while she's talking (which, I very much am).

She will often vent to me about how her mother is emotionally abusive for making her do chores as a kid, and telling her to lay off the autism jokes. As someone who has lost years of childhood because of REAL physical and emotional abuse, it takes everything in me not to freak the fuck out on her.

Anyways, I have a point here. It's simple. All of these people are immature and sensitive as hell. Don't bend to them. Don't feed their inflated egos. And NEVER use the pronouns that they want. Ever hear about how the fear of humans makes a demon stronger? Same concept.

 

[Shiki Ouji]

Just ended a long-standing "friendship" and at the very end when she was still trying her best to claw into and grip my brain with her garbage spew, it culminated in a realization of just how slimy, abusive, and manipulative these people are. They present as harmless, but the moment you say anything that goes against any of their beliefs, they show their true colors and become malicious monsters.

All they want is asspats and feelgoods. I'm sorry, but you don't make me feel good. No one is entitled to feelgoods, but especially not abusive, deluded psychopaths. The only ones who are intolerant are the ones that can't tolerate their miserable existence in their own bodies.

I'm only angry because I didn't end it sooner It was a great eye opener on a very personal level, though. They will not accept anything but pure conformity to all their retarded ideas. She didn't transition merely because of whatever dysphoria, but also because it's a socialist/communist badge of honor. Only the most devoted and faithful of commies dare to disrupt their bodies the same way they wish with all their wretched little souls to disrupt the entirety of society around them.

 

[Azazel]

Somehow, after 10 years here, I never thought I'd witness a troon out in person. But it's finally happened. Apologies for the blog post.

A man I've worked with (I will refer to him as Terry for this post) for nearly 6 years has trooned out in the last month. We work and live in a very small rural community in the midwest, the type that will absolutely never play along with this shit. He hits all the usual boxes we see: way too into anime, an unhealthily dependent relationship (his wife is a mentally ill, perpetually jobless woman who acts like a teenager in general; they're both 27 but she's mentally 15), overweight, low self-confidence, overly sexual (possibly a porn addict; for example, his phone cover is a lewd anime girl), no strong male role models. But he was a hard worker and pretty good at his job, so I got along with him very well. I kept my distance from them, though, since they always seemed a bit too degenerate or immature for me to hang out with outside of work. The closest I got was being facebook friends. Which is how I discovered his troonery.

It all happened so fast in my eyes, even now he still presents as a man at work but about a month ago I noticed on his facebook he was taking pictures with a very obvious troon. As in, even if I didn't clock him due to my experience here, he had before/after photos on his public timeline (also way too masculine to ever pass). Despite being married, Terry adds this troon to his relationship in February. Yes, polyamory, another box ticked. Not even 2 weeks later the inevitable happens, he officially identifies as trans on facebook, changes his pronouns to she/her, and says he is "Wife" to his wife (who is now pan), and girlfriend to the troon. He changes to picture to one of himself wearing makeup.

I told my other co-work (who is late 40s very conservative guy), only so he doesn't say some shit and get himself fired. After all, we know how troons operate, and Terry has always been a bit of a Karen. He's still shocked and can't believe it, but he is dealing with it. Soon it becomes very obvious at work, though. I notice Terry wearing a white cotton shirt and can clearly make out a bra underneath. This is followed by wearing a tranny pin on his name badge lanyard, and rainbow/tranny-colored bead bracelets. Again, a 27 year old, in the classic troon behavior of pretending to be a teenage girl.

It's so surreal to see the same behavior I see online play out in front of me. As I continue to surveil his social media presence (KF reflex), within the last week he's taken to posting heavily filtered pictures of himself in a wig, wearing a dress. His troon name is Artermis, following some unwritten troon rule of naming themselves. He corrects people in the comment section if they use masculine pronouns. Dude has been "female" for all of a month, and he names himself after a goddess and is correcting pronouns.

Today, he finally worked up the nerve to say something to me. Kiwis might find this humorous, he knows about kiwifarms and our nature (because I've explained it to him over the years, yes I sperged about chris-chan to him incessantly years ago). In his text to me he asks me not to dox him and says he doesn't wanna be "become one of your lolcows because you're a kiwi" which made me laugh. Well I don't plan to dox him (which I explained but left out because doxxing him would be basically doxxing myself), I just told him he should lock down his social media, remove his place of work from it, and stop posting pictures with his goddamn badge.

I'm sure "Artemis" is only beginning his troon journey, I think he is soon to start HRT, so I may post updates if it's funny enough. He's not quite lolcow territory yet, but it is very funny to me personally to witness.

 

[chump change]

How he doing now, have u checked in?
If it was just around the cusp, he might have made it out unscathed by HRT by the time Keffals empire of shit fell to bits all around him.... That furry stuff tho? That sticks....

He is still a freak, often posting disgusting fetish art and throwing temper tantrums over people not playing along with the charade. As far as I know he still supports Keffals and will defend him no matter what. I haven't checked his activity for a while until now but it is still depressing to see

 

[Battery Low]

Dude has been "female" for all of a month, and he names himself after a goddess

Right there is troonary distilled into half a sentence.

 

[Kiislova]

I told my other co-work (who is late 40s very conservative guy), only so he doesn't say some shit and get himself fired

You, you the real MVP there.
It is sad that you have to do that shit in current year, but I am glad you did that.

and rainbow/tranny-colored bead bracelets

Troon-signaling. Another case of they don't wanna be women, they want to be transwomen.

I just told him he should lock down his social media, remove his place of work from it, and stop posting pictures with his goddamn badge.

A lolcow will ignore that simple advice.

because you're a kiwi

Try not to dox yourself to "Artemis" since you know the standard troon will have a freakout and go scorched earth on your ass by using HR department on you, and he knows of this place. Stay safe lad.

 

[Jacques1194]

Ok not sure where to post this since the person I'm going to talk about isn't someone I know, but I feel like she wouldn't have been lost to transgenderism if she took a different path.After doing some investigating into this other TIF that I talk with about our shared love for a certain character from this show, I'm starting to think that she has to be a lesbian in denial.She not only talked about having an ex girlfriend, but she seems like she's addicted to yuri shipping.In fact she hopes one day a show we watch will eventually have a lesbian couple on it.Also she claims she passes to her co workers, and yet when I saw her she looked more like a butch lesbian than a man.Sadly I dont think I'll know the reason she trooned out since she's very private about her life.It just feels kinda sad if it turns out she could of grew up to be a lesbian instead of living a lie.

 

[Nigga who likes thighs]

Alright so to start I should mention my friend went through a break up that was "agreed upon by both parties" which told me that it didn't go well. He seemed to be taking the break up fine for a few months, his demeaner hadn't really changed which made me think that it really was an equal splitting, but then out of nowhere he revealed he was trans. At first I thought it was a joke, and it was only after a month or so that I realized it was legit. I had already been transphobic up to this point but given that he was my friend I didn't care that much about it up until he started just becoming more and more of an asshole. At first it was him getting on our case about tranny jokes which was hypocritical given that not only would he make them in the past but he also made racist jokes as well. Then it started affecting his social life, with him essentially splitting off from his family, which then transitioned into his work life where he was get on everyone's cases about using his pronouns and just generally being an asshole, something that got him eventually fired. The last straw for me though was while we were hanging out, and I was curiously asking some questions cause I had noticed his pecs got bigger, and given that he was working out I thought it was a result of that. it turned out to just be the hormones he was taking, but then he asked me if I wanted to "touch them" and popped the question a few more times. After that I essentially broke off contact and stopped using his pronouns, which caused him to label me as transphobic but at this point I could care less.

I haven't heard much from him, and I think he still hangs out with my other friends which is fine with me, just don't want to interact with him myself. Its still a little wild to me cause I thought the "break up into tranny" thing was fake, and he says that he was having these thoughts before the break up which I call bullshit on. it happened a few months after his breakup, and he didn't have any trans related shit in his social media before that point (mainly talking reddit).
Its also still jarring that he asked me to touch his "breasts" given that he wasn't that sexual up until that point. Hes also doing that thing that trannies do where they pretend to be lesbians after their MTF transition.
I guess my only final thoughts are make sure your friends handle their break up smoothly, otherwise they'll troon out or do something worse.

 

[Ethereal Eye]

What is it about these games that attract so many troons?

Spoiler

Never experienced daganronpa but when I was younger I was in persona and fire emblem fandoms (large crossover with daganronpa fandoms) and there was a lot of troons, even for anime/vidya communities.

Anyway…sorry to hear about your friend.

The game series is chock full of mentally ill characters. You got one with multi personality disorder, one with a split personality, and a whole bunch of them with trauma. I think the "neurodivergency" is what really draws them in.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

The game series is chock full of mentally ill characters. You got one with multi personality disorder, one with a split personality, and a whole bunch of them with trauma. I think the "neurodivergency" is what really draws them in.

Its the chunibyo syndrome where mentall illness and weird gender pronouns means you have a super especial anime quirk and are "not like other kids".

 

[Bojack Horsekin]

Caught up with this thread mostly via highlights, feels for all of you. I'm not devastated by my loss, I just find it funny and sad.

Spoiler: Storytime

My bf from college was the only ex I remained on good terms with and considered a friend. He helped me come to terms with being bi (which wasn't quite true in the end, I was very naive and unsure in my 20s so I went with it). Smart guy, super nerdy, sensitive and sweet. Good bf material, bad with a few real life things which led to our breakup. I always suspected he was on the spectrum somewhere, just by little behaviors.

We'd have years pass in between talking, which was fine, we had our own lives. He got married and finally settled into a career. I moved away and had to move back during the pandemic, so we reconnected via texts. I was so grateful to have my old friend in my life, having gone through hell just before the coof.

A little over a year ago he invited me to hang out because he had news. And the news was trooning out, he'd already been on HRT for months. I always knew it was a matter of time; when we were together he had a not so secret fascination with cross dressing anime. Another more recent time he mentioned feeling kinship with LGBT comic creators, and he'd started to talk with a lisp. I thought at the time he had a cold or something.

He just legally changed his name and picked the cringiest first middle and last to divorce himself from his unsupportive family. One of these comes from a furry comic strip by a notable troon author (not LaBill). He claims his female coworkers are delighted and took him clothes shopping. I cannot conceive this taking place in our rural hick town. Please say they were doing it as a joke.

I visited his house sometime after the news and we were looking at some of his nerd collection in the basement. And there in the back was a goddamn rack of programmer socks. He hastily steered me away and went ugh laundry amirite, and any ounce of sympathy I had for his identity struggles dried up in an instant. #NOTAFETISH !!

That same visit I was telling his wife about some adventure we'd had in school, and I slipped out a "he." It's what happens when you carry a memory of someone for 20 years. Being busy in the kitchen, he sidled over to me and said "'she' please!" in such a way that made my skin crawl. Like, it was vocalized as a polite correction, but behind the cutesy voice was a threat.

I joined his Discord server to keep in touch and it's half old college acquaintances, half loony troons. He posts selfies once and awhile and they're something else. The talk in this thread about troons thinking they're passing by autistically checking off boxes (woman's blouse, check; eyeshadow, check), as well as the prominence of man jaws sums him up perfectly. My dude is over 6 ft tall, frizzy long hair while bald up top, and now wears flowy shirts and stuffs his bra. He does not pass, he looks like a nutter with crazy eyes who steals his wife's clothes for internet photo ops.

Something that skeeves me out about the whole thing (besides the thigh highs) is his forced change of behavior. He and the Discord troons use "softer" language to feminize themselves. One went on a rant once about how he hated getting mad because it wasn't cute, and my ex agreed. But I think worst of all was when I asked him for tech support and he acted dumb about it. Like "oh gosh I dunno ^-^" and I wound up googling the solution myself. All of this skinwalking girly roleplay pisses me the fuck off, it's insulting! They really do think that to be a woman is to be a bimbo.

I asked how his wife was taking it and he said she was learning and supportive. I feel sorry for her, she's been brainwashed by it all. Thankfully there are no kids in the picture. But I wish I could warn her and show her trans widow stories. She never liked me, being the ex, so she'd accuse me of trying to ruin their marriage or something. So I'm waiting for her to either come to her senses and leave, or claim she's a they/them lesbian all of a sudden.

It's objectively hilarious to watch, but it hurts a little because my good ex with the rockstar hair became... this parody. My memories are ruined. And I thank God every day I dodged that bullet.

I've mentioned in another thread how my ex-gf pooned out, and to her credit, she does pass as a man. A 5' tall ugly hairy Mexican with a beer gut and likely still-squeaky voice, but a man in appearance. She quit her job to be an internet artist so she doesn't have to be perceived in real life. All of her tweets are her talking to herself in the most forced optimism possible and read like massive cope. Truly, lopping off her boobs and injecting herself with drugs has made her life so much better!

Another ex-gf (sort of, we only e-dated briefly) is a "closeted trans man" and makes zero effort to pass. She was a perma-virgin up into her 30s until she landed some loser in his 20s a couple months ago and finally had sex. Now she tweets about feeling feminine again and posts selfies of her hair and makeup. Astounding.

I understand how kids fall for the gender nonsense -- part peer pressure, part guaranteed acceptance for social outcasts. But these are people in their 30s and 40s. It seems like a midlife crisis in the making, or a giant last-ditch effort to stop being miserable. And it's obviously not working.

 

[glass_houses]

I understand how kids fall for the gender nonsense -- part peer pressure, part guaranteed acceptance for social outcasts. But these are people in their 30s and 40s. It seems like a midlife crisis in the making, or a giant last-ditch effort to stop being miserable. And it's obviously not working.

I'm beginning to wonder, if in addition to porn addiction, social pressure, autism, grooming etc, that there is another factor in play, and that's the social media push to be happy. Not merely content, or satisfied, or stable, but a constant, over the top, anime girl giving a twirl under the sakura trees happy. If you're not in a constant state of ecstacy, your life isn't perfect, therefore it isn't right, and you have to fix it.

The thing is, constant, overwhelming joy isn't the normal state for the human mind. From day to day, happiness for most people is more like contentment, a low grade buzz of "everything is good, it's safe to relax". There's a difference between not being actively "happy" and unhappy. But now, if you're not constantly shitting rainbows and blinding innocent bystanders with the light reflecting off your perfect pearly whites, you have a problem that you need to fix.

It's similar to the criticism of modern psychiatry turning normal grief into a mental illness. Certainly grief can reach a point where it is indeed more of an illness than a process. And sometimes you're genuinely clinically depressed, not just suffering from a shitty life. But the normal state of the human mind is not happiness. It's euthymia. And many people can't seem to wrap their brains around the concept.

 

[grenouille crétine]

He and the Discord troons use "softer" language to feminize themselves. One went on a rant once about how he hated getting mad because it wasn't cute, and my ex agreed. But I think worst of all was when I asked him for tech support and he acted dumb about it. Like "oh gosh I dunno ^-^" and I wound up googling the solution myself.

One, I’m sorry you’ve had the misfortune of knowing so many troons, but thanks for sharing all this. Wanted to quote this part bc that behavior is very widespread and one of their manipulation tools—they talk about being “uwu so nervous to go out in girlmode for the first time kyaa!!” and refuse to engage outside their creepy anime script, but when they get mad it’s a disconcerting mix of creepy anime tropes and sheer male rage (instead of sheer male libido, or in addition to). They want to pretend to be non-threatening not just for the coom, but also to fool people who don’t actually know their grift and just see it from afar into believing that they’re the delicate, constantly besieged victims of a cruel world, not the women and girls in the bathrooms they jack off in.

Not merely content, or satisfied, or stable, but a constant, over the top, anime girl giving a twirl under the sakura trees happy. If you're not in a constant state of ecstacy, your life isn't perfect, therefore it isn't right, and you have to fix it.

Social media FOMO has only gotten worse as the years go on. If you’re too young or otherwise stupid to know it’s fake, I’m sure that does some really bad things to the brain’s reward system bc it becomes convinced it’s missing out on something everyone else has.

Safe is happy. Be grateful for that much!

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

Have any of yall lost a friend who wasn’t a troon themselves, but was so invested in the ideology you couldn’t be around them anymore? (I have; do not recommend it.)

Surrounded by troon believers online, all parroting "visibility" stuff, but outside of a couple of people's kids, there's literally nobody in the massive group who is a troon. The flags and shit all come from women married to men who were bi that one time in university and now are "she/they". Its like they're supporting these imaginary people.

A not-close friend outside of that group has decided to go on a "GENDER JOURNEY" and channel a Zoomer even though she is a millennial? It kind of has the feeling of an older woman trying to cling to her childhood. She's not even that much of an autist, just was a keen fangirl and into that whole scene back in the 2010s. It's just going to be tiresome.

 

[Nekomander]

I’m currently in the process of losing my fiance to this shit and I absolutely have no idea what to do she’s a tumblr and x user and has a hyper fixation on yaoi since early teens. I just feel like everyone is clapping and cheering her on for this while I’m the only outlier questioning it and she’s beginning to resent me for it and I’ll just end up losing her completely it’s just so fucked up.

 

[Null]

I’m currently in the process of losing my fiance to this shit and I absolutely have no idea what to do she’s a tumblr and x user and has a hyper fixation on yaoi since early teens. I just feel like everyone is clapping and cheering her on for this while I’m the only outlier questioning it and she’s beginning to resent me for it and I’ll just end up losing her completely it’s just so fucked up.

are you a dude? have you ever straight up told her that you will not be in a relationship with a troon?

 

[Nekomander]

are you a dude? have you ever straight up told her that you will not be in a relationship with a troon?

Yeah I’m a dude 25 and her 26 we’ve been together 9 years and have known eachother since 13 years of age I’ve told her I’m not gay and don’t want to date a man but she’s very adamant about this right now and I don’t want her to double down cause of my push back on the other hand I’ve been trying to accept it but I just can’t lol (btw she’s expressed that she’s unsure about surgeries and T at this point)

 

[Gingervitis]

I’m currently in the process of losing my fiance to this shit and I absolutely have no idea what to do she’s a tumblr and x user and has a hyper fixation on yaoi since early teens. I just feel like everyone is clapping and cheering her on for this while I’m the only outlier questioning it and she’s beginning to resent me for it and I’ll just end up losing her completely it’s just so fucked up.

Is she trooning out, or just succumbing to troon ideology like the guys above you were talking about? If it’s the former, you’re done.

 

[HalfPint]

There is a dude I know who is a troon. He is very smart and funny. I never use the “correct” pronouns because I just use his name. I always just figured it was all a phase and it would pass. Dude is part of a group I’m in (who I see on an almost daily basis). I found out last week that he is going away for two months. I didn’t want to assume stinkditch installation because I thought there was no way in hell I know someone crazy enough to do that. So I told myself maybe he is taking a cruise around the world (he likes to travel) or maybe a family member is on their death bed and wants to spend time with them. I know massive cope on my part.
Well today someone in our group said he was taking 2 months off for medical leave and that it was “elective”.
I am in shock. Is there any last ditch effort I can or should make to change his mind?
My hope is that he is getting "facial feminization" surgery because the risk of complications seems lower (source: SRS thread). Maybe then the worst case is he has an uncanny valley face like Dylan Mulvany. As annoyingly sexist “facial feminization” surgery is I would much rather he get that then the bottom surgery.

Honestly though… either way this is insane. I still can’t believe it.

 

[Two Hands]

I still find it hard to believe transgenderism has become so prominent, I had no clue what it was a decade ago but nowadays I can't go anywhere without seeing it. Especially online ever since ~2020, the communities I'm in have become 'infested' with more people coming out as trans, flags in their profile pictures, pronouns and all. Increasingly its more 13 year old teenagers, being trans, autistic, and therian cats or whatever else makes them feel special.
The only thing I can do is just smile and wave, leaving them free to dwell in their delusions.

this generation is cooked