Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

I checked out an artist I followed before after a long time. His art got shitier and he trooned out, he's now giving huge AGP vibes and all of his drawings are now made for the coom. All of the posts are about how hot he is as a "girl", about him being trans and what before was just the ocasional sex joke in his drawings became every single drawing of him being fetish related.
I usually don't care about unfollowing someone just because they trooned out as long as I just see their art and they don't make it too much about themselves, but this guy really became an annoying narcissistic AGP the very moment he started calling himself a girl.

An artist degrading his art and himself after trooning out, a tale as old as time I guess, but is always sad to see people take this path, specially when you really have interest in their work, it always gets ruined, even when you try to ignore it

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

Family BBQ the other week. My nephew is still wearing dresses. He constantly plays mobile dress-up games on whatever mobile devices he can bet his hands on. I saw him doing some weird fashion cat-walk strut when he thought nobody was watching. His parents say they have no idea what to do to stop it, but they keep buying him more dresses. If I see it again, I'm going to sit him down and talk to him, because he's clearly not getting the male input he needs on this.

I think you need to be more lenient towards your nephew. He is just a kid, their parents are not transing him and certainly not medicalizing him, you don't need to raise the alarm or be stern with the boy.

I said it time and time again but it's admitted in psychology that all kids go through a period of playing with the other sex toys and dressing up in the other sex clothes, or even expressing the desire to be the other sex, but it's a fade. It's something they do to build their identity. It's healthy and it doesn't mean they are gonna trans. I know little boys who dressed up in women clothes as kids and now they are married men with kids and a career and no plan to troon.

Let him play with the dress up game and wear dresses sometimes. You may just have a futur fashion designer on your team or just a frociaggine, or both.

I told my cousin (genderspecial) that a cat i thought was a female is actually a castrated male. She said jokingly (i wanna give her benefit of the doubt) that he's trans.
What the fuck was i even expecting her response would be? do i have the right to feel disappointed?
Also imagine you're a cat, they chop off your balls, you have no say in it and then someone even calls you a tranny. So unfair.

I would retort with a deadpan
"are transwomen eunuchs ?" and watch people squirm.

But that may be too forward with a gender special.

 

[Aunt Carol]

He is just a kid, their parents are not transing him and certainly not medicalizing him, you don't need to raise the alarm or be stern with the boy.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but the worry is that other kids, online troons or "helpful" authorities are going to see the kid doing his thing and decide he's an egg for them to hatch. It's hard telling second-hand if the parents are wishy-washy and lost and might cling to trans ideology when someone pitches it, or if they're old-school based and will laugh and ask the kid why he thinks boys can't wear dresses. It sounds like they're wishy-washy, though.

I know little boys who dressed up in women clothes as kids and now they are married men with kids and a career and no plan to troon.

I hope that continues; there have been some horrific "I was always a girl" midlife troonouts with a wife and kids along for the ride. The kind of men who used to crossdress in the bedroom at age 50 are now being emboldened to troon out, encouraged to let their "true self" show by dressing like a pornographic version of a teenage girl, making everyone participate in their fetish 24/7.

Then again, maybe these are the guys who didn't get to play dressup as kids. We can hope.

 

[doodoocaca]

let their "true self" show by dressing like a pornographic version of a teenage girl

This is what troons do, 100% of the fucking time, pornographically fixate on what they wanted when they were that age but could not get, and of course show their true-troon-age by fixating on how girls were when they were teenagers, and when online act like how girls acted online when they were teenagers. It's uncanny and it so succinctly proves what this is. It's disgusting, and it's horrifying.

It's infuriating. This is what they always do and somehow nobody (outside of the farms...?) can fucking put two and two together. Troons put on skag-drag performances of their hazy recollections of girls from their adolescence. Their online mannerisms, the 'colonthree' :3 shit? Young women don't do that now! They're very literally trapped in time.

The only true and honest woman I know of who still pulls the naughty oughtie scene shit is also autistic, that being Vivz. Who seems to be enamored with faggots and troony men. Huh.

Oh, yeah. It's all autism.

 

[xX_rAcE_wAr_420_Xx]

This is what troons do, 100% of the fucking time, pornographically fixate on what they wanted when they were that age but could not get, and of course show their true-troon-age by fixating on how girls were when they were teenagers, and when online act like how girls acted online when they were teenagers. It's uncanny and it so succinctly proves what this is. It's disgusting, and it's horrifying.

It's striking how much the gender thing is just a facade for the underlying desire, too. Regular people don't care 99% as much about their gender, they go "yeah I'm a woman" and go to work or run errands, they might look in the mirror and adjust an outfit a bit to look presentable in public but they're not focused in on whether this bracelet properly codes them as femme.

Then you scratch the surface a bit and see what they're running from, or towards. Loser dudes who pined after the alternative girl in school, bumping into her at the Hot Topic and wishing he could smell her feet, who finds an ideology that explains both why he's a loser and also gives him a blank check to totally goon out on weird porn and fetish shit. Awkward girl who doesn't like puberty and attention from boys, feels like she's totally out of place in the world with no control over her life, finds an ideology that explains why she's so awkward and gives her the TRUE ALPHA MALE ENERGY of being a valid dudebro while chasing away dudes who would creep on her.

And in both cases they have no idea what they're supposed to be, or want, they're as good at being a transwoman as they were at being a guy, complete failures everyone laughs at. The incel thinks he will suddenly be Instagram-model-hot if he takes estrogen and shittily paints his nails, and the li'l pooner is blown away that nobody gives a 5'2" twink built like a bowling pin any real respect or attention. Personally, that's why it's so sad to see it happen - someone in your life is troubled but you're sure they could improve their lot with the right initiative, and instead they double down and make things way worse, pushing you and everyone else away in the process. You almost hope you're wrong and they'll suddenly become happy in their new life, but it's all cope and never lasts.

 

[doodoocaca]

it's all cope and never lasts.

Indeed. It's all cope, and it only exists as long as other people enable the big stupid lie.

 

[William Tyndale]

American woman flies to UK to marry a man. He decides he’s a woman shortly afterwards, gaslighting her for not wanting to fuck him and she can’t afford to fly back home to leave him. He threatens suicide when she mentions divorce. Here’s the really weird thing: he was convinced that he was trans by an AI chatbot.

https://x.com/kristinnsayss/status/1796141772709450032?s=46

 

[doodoocaca]

I'm serious here - fundraiser to get this lady away from the troon and all other Anglos? It can't be that much for a ticket, can it?

 

[ScurvyRat]

I'm serious here - fundraiser to get this lady away from the troon and all other Anglos? It can't be that much for a ticket, can it?

>Anglos

You uh, haven't seen Britain lately, have you?
Truly horrifying though, my heart goes out to her. I have an ex who trooned out but thankfully it was long after the relationship so it doesn't really affect me.

 

[doodoocaca]

>Anglos

You uh, haven't seen Britain lately, have you?
Truly horrifying though, my heart goes out to her. I have an ex who trooned out but thankfully it was long after the relationship so it doesn't really affect me.

Oh, I have. Fuck the UK. Also, I wrote to the king to ask if I could engage in respectful courtly love with miss Caroline Farrow, but never heard back. Otoh he's dying of cancer now I guess so I'll take that as a win.

 

[Risky Horse Business]

Welp, it's happened to someone I know as a friend. A 55 year old gen X male has come out as a they/them and started posting pictures of himself in 90s slip dresses on social media.

This guy is head of university department that almost exclusively employs men and mtf troons, (they are all autists, obviously ) so I am not hugely surprised, but am concerned this is going to spread to my family member who work with him.

 

[Aunt Carol]

but am concerned this is going to spread to my family member who work with him.

I think the best thing you can do is try to immunize them. Let them talk about their feelings on all the troons and the big-boss they/them, gently bring in questions, let them know you're a safe person to talk to even if they have to pretend to be affirming at work.

 

[Allura Red AC]

I can't put much detail into this because this person may lurk here. I'd like to say that I miss the person my friend was. I wish I did something nearly a decade ago when I had the ability to stop their unfettered internet access to the people they were talking to. But I was in a similarly shitty place so I did nothing. They fell down a path aided by (what I now know to be) discord grooming cliques, not just online friends. Suicide attempts, nearly being assaulted, etc. This person cut me and everyone else they used to know off for their new more "supportive" friends some time back.

At this point, I don't want to know what happened to them.

 

[Ash Gassem]

I'm serious here - fundraiser to get this lady away from the troon and all other Anglos? It can't be that much for a ticket, can it?

Call me old-fashioned, but I earnestly hope they both die.

 

[Bookwork]

I'm serious here - fundraiser to get this lady away from the troon and all other Anglos? It can't be that much for a ticket, can it?

She needs to call the U.S. consulate in London, say she is destitute, and ask about a repatriation loan to cover her airfare home.

The government won't fly her for free, but will loan her money for the ticket. 11% interest - better than most credit cards. There are UK/US flights for under $400 if you're flexible about when you fly and your specific airports.

 

[doodoocaca]

She needs to call the U.S. consulate in London, say she is destitute, and ask about a repatriation loan to cover her airfare home.

The government won't fly her for free, but will loan her money for the ticket. 11% interest - better than most credit cards. There are UK/US flights for under $400 if you're flexible about when you fly and your specific airports.

Oh that is some absolutely useful information, thank you.

 

[Bookwork]

Oh that is some absolutely useful information, thank you.

I can't tell from the screenshots whether they've had kids. She mentions having chosen names for their first son and first daughter, but it's unclear whether that was romantic planning or actual children born to them.

If she tells the counsulate staff, "Umm, so I'll need to cover five one-way tickets," that will terminate discussions of a repatriation loan unless she also says, "And I have the final custody agreement allowing me to move the kids to the U.S. full time right here ready for your review." The U.S. gov isn't going to loan her money for a kidnapping.

The fact that friends and family aren't piecing together airfare for her makes me think there might be a complication of that sort.

 

[Chromeo]

I'm struggling with a not-yet-loss that I'm always scared is coming.

I have a friend who has a ton of red flags for trooning out but hasn't yet. Every time I go on Facebook lately, all of his posts are swarmed with his weirdo Internet friends calling him an egg, saying he's trans-coded, or there are screenshots of "chuds" in comments sections who insult him thinking he's already trans. It's been really getting to me lately, and I can't talk to anyone about it!! The transphobic friends I have are like "bro it's so obvious he's gonna do it," which is NOT what I want to hear, and the pro-trans friends I have don't want to hear me worry about this at all.

Earlier today I was hanging out with my sister, and she showed me a post of the friend's Facebook where he was being called an egg, as if it was funny. I told her that worries me and that, to me, it's like seeing someone hand him an invitation to join their death cult where half the members will end up dead. She knows I'm transphobic, and so she responded with an awkward chuckle like "well let's not discuss this at all and move on." I was gripped with this desperation for her to understand me; she NEEDS to acknowledge my fear, even if she doesn't agree with it!! She doesn't have to agree to accept that's how I feel and that my feelings are real and I'm not crazy and bigoted!!! But she brushed me off again and showed me some other meme on her phone to change the subject.

It's been a few hours since that and I'm still stressed out. I don't want people telling me that "John" is gonna transition, I don't want people ignoring my fears because I'm an evil Kiwi, I don't want to be told I'm a bad person or that John is a bad person, I JUST DON'T WANT JOHN TO CUT HIS FUCKING COCK OFF!!!! I want someone to acknowledge me! That I'm right to be worried he's surrounded by people who want him to mutilate himself because it's fashionable and progressive and OH WON'T IT OWN THE CHUDS! AAAAAAAAH!!!

I feel like I've posted about him in this very thread before, and I'm sorry if I have and I'm sorry he hasn't actually transitioned yet and this doesn't really count, but I'm scared he will and I can't tell ANYONE but KiwiFarms!! Even John himself doesn't want to hear it, he's told me before he's not going to transition and he's gotten an inch away from cutting me out of his life because of my Wrongthink™. I fucking hate this Current Year nonsense and I feel like I'm going to go crazy!! I'm not fucking crazy! Cutting your perfectly healthy dick off is crazy! Harassing women is crazy! Spending millions of dollars on plastic surgery and insisting you're something you're not is crazy! I'm! Not! Crazy!!!!

 

[Aunt Carol]

Even John himself doesn't want to hear it, he's told me before he's not going to transition and he's gotten an inch away from cutting me out of his life because of my Wrongthink™.

Depending on the mores of your/his friend group, can you jokingly accuse them as trying to evangelize just as hard as the born-agains? "Wow, the last time I heard someone saying you can't be a real man if you don't fit their definition of masculinity, it was my boomer aunt. Do you gals go to the same church?" There's a lot of ways to turn their dumb arguments back on them, but it's hard if it's only you, and if you're in this because you care about your friend. They just see him as another potential Discord member.

This sucks. I know that sinking feeling, when you see someone add the "them" pronoun in a bio or start posting memes from <trans-beloved media of choice>. If you warn them, you sound crazy, because in every other case the "slippery slope" argument is wrong.

 

[Chromeo]

Depending on the mores of your/his friend group, can you jokingly accuse them as trying to evangelize just as hard as the born-agains? "Wow, the last time I heard someone saying you can't be a real man if you don't fit their definition of masculinity, it was my boomer aunt. Do you gals go to the same church?" There's a lot of ways to turn their dumb arguments back on them, but it's hard if it's only you, and if you're in this because you care about your friend. They just see him as another potential Discord member.

This sucks. I know that sinking feeling, when you see someone add the "them" pronoun in a bio or start posting memes from <trans-beloved media of choice>. If you warn them, you sound crazy, because in every other case the "slippery slope" argument is wrong.

The bad part is the weirdo egg crackers are people I personally don't know, so if I criticize them it's coming from "John's weird Christian friend" or w/e and their defenses would already be up. They've already got an assumption that I'm the worst possible bigot, any movement that direction makes them feel right. I hate feeling like I can't do anything. Talk about walking on eggs.