Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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Question: Does she know this?
Unfortunately I dont personally know his girlfriend to ask her. I thik either way is fucked. If she doesnt know, its fucked up. If she DOES know and still decided it was a good idea to live with him that only means she is fucked up in the head like him
 
Had another longtime friend troon out recently but I really don't understand because he didn't really seem like he had any interest in anything feminine (which is common for TIMs I know but it still gets me). He agrees with nearly everything most of us would say here about trans people as well, in fact he and I had multiple shit talking sessions about how deranged the modern tranny is.

But all the underlying conditions were there I suppose, addicted to video games + internet, depresso expresso, rarely leaves the house, and happened to be a furfag.

I'm not really miffed about this one (so far) because we don't talk too much and he at least seems to be in the "I'm just doing this for me" camp and doesn't seem to care about being misgendered but I'm kinda taken back by how he waited until the tides turned hard against trannies to finally become his true self.
 
Another one of my friends since high school decided to troon out. She's a pooner now. She was already balls deep in this genderspecial stuff (genderfluid panromantic asexual, what a mouthful) around 2021. Suddenly she decided to poon out. She claimed that she found out she was trans back in November but decided to come out to our friend group in December. I don't know why she suddenly made this decision, but she claimed it was because she was "looking more into trans stuff and perspectives" and grew confident that she's a pooner. She does have Discord so most likely she got groomed by trannies. A couple of days ago, she revealed her pooner name (it's some obscure name I've never heard of before but I'll say that a couple of anime characters and a character from a video game use this name, but it does fit the stereotypical pooner names). Her parents disapprove of her decision. The last time I saw her in person was last week; she looked exactly the same pre-troon. I'm giving myself rainbows for this, but I hope she doesn't do anything irreversible.
 
Question: Does she know this?

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lol, here to share a funny anecdote that’s the opposite of losing people to trannism. Knew of this woman whos tiny af, non binary, and was on T. Apparently she got into an abusive relationship and the guy forbade her from doing more T, among many other things😂. Still non-binary though, but that really doesn’t matter anymore.

Letting a guy you are dating dictate your life is so masculine doooood… Also at this point the guy has arguably saved her life? A real head scratcher ethically, this one.
 
I feel like Ive peaked the ultimate peak which I didn't know was possible, but seeing recent events unfold made me realize how much I feel sorry for people who do not deserve it and how that ultimately leads to self loathing whether you realize it or not, by feeling sorry for these people and being hung up on who they became you end up internalizing their problems as if its your issue, as if you have control, when really you don't.

No matter what, they made their bed. They made their choices. Everyone has a choice in life and they, as adults, made theirs. Whether its a psyop or not, they still made their choice. Would they still be this way without the psyop? Probably, probably not, they mightve just ended up in a different cult, maybe they wouldve ended up in no cult, who can say. But either way I hope no one feels guilt that grief ultimately causes over these people. They arent worth it.
I know theres that voice in the back of your head that is in disbelief over how they could support this stuff and that maybe they dont know any better, don't listen to it. It doesnt change the fact they still chose this path. They still enable these horrible, horrible people and set of ideas. Good intentions, bad intentions, the outcome is still the same.

I hope with how aggressive Trump has been so far with the migrant stuff and so on that this whole ideology can soon be socially acceptable to denounce. And quite frankly I hope everyone too far in just dies already, I lost my pity. Theres no excuse to believe in such a narcissistic agenda that puts people in harms way in more ways than one. A lot of these people had privileged lives and instead of doing anything positive they decided to wallow in their own self victimization, and for most of these people it all started off as a fucking fetish. They are useless people. I hope God can forgive their sins. I hope people see them and it inspires them to get help with their own addiction before things get too bad, that would be only positive thing these people have ever contributed to the world.
I cant believe their selfishness manages to shock me. I thought Ive seen everything they had to offer but I guess not. Theres just no excuse for any of it. The pity I once held has turned into pure disgust no matter the troon/poon, except for if they are a minor being groomed. But for any adult? They can all die if they never wanna get better. They are a fucking plague on society.
 
Did he actually disrespect his girlfriend's proclaimed identity?
his girlfriend is the kind of "non-binary" that puts 0 effort. That includes she doesnt change her pronouns or caring if she is percieved as a woman. The only reason she is non binary is because she said so and puts that nonbinary flag on everything she can for attention
 
The pity I once held has turned into pure disgust no matter the troon/poon, except for if they are a minor being groomed. But for any adult? They can all die if they never wanna get better.
I keep thinking about that crazy friend I recently posted about in this thread, the one who was going to cross Mexico border and now is wailing about all her plans for life crashing thanks to Trump. Good thing is that she won't be going anywhere any time soon, but not much has changed. The loonacy is still there.

She officially became our (me and some of my friends) personal lolcow, and not just for the retarded plan but for many other things she says, that clearly stem from the overall mind virus that manifests itself as "queer neurodivergency".

Like you said, about these people making a choice, she also definitely made one. She's an adult in her 30s, and no matter how misguided and troubled she is, she still was capable of making a choice that she is fully aware of, indicated by her expressing it so many times, in so many ways. She made a conscious choice. I'm sure of that. I'm not even talking about the act of transtion, the choice here is clearly the acceptance of the mind virus that rots your life and humanity over time. Even if she never transitions, as long as she lets herself be infected with this, she will rot.

It's still hard to process. She was so fun to hang out with. What even happened. I can't take it anymore, I won't be cutting her off, just distance myself emotionally, but I am mourning. Although, if she will cross the line of falling into pedo shit through "queer neurodivergency", like an ex-friend of mine did, then... yeah, perhaps in the deepest pits of hell you all belong.
 
It's one thing when the strange cows on the fruit website behave like this, but it's quite another when you watch it happen in front of you real-time. This fetish takes over the person's entire being. It's a death march, and the speed varies, but god damn. Burning bridges, having rageouts at anyone who DARES express skepticism. Decade-long friendships cut off immediately because someone finds his latest antics creepy. And he responds by freaking out and getting even creepier. Hasn't happened to me yet, but I just watched The Tranny flip out at someone else in his circle of friends, declaring him a Suppressive Person. That's okay, I'm sure he'll make friends with yet another Discord-Reddit troon, he already gleefully told us he was participating in tranny threesomes.

It's. A fetish.
 
It's one thing when the strange cows on the fruit website behave like this, but it's quite another when you watch it happen in front of you real-time. This fetish takes over the person's entire being. It's a death march, and the speed varies, but god damn. Burning bridges, having rageouts at anyone who DARES express skepticism. Decade-long friendships cut off immediately because someone finds his latest antics creepy. And he responds by freaking out and getting even creepier. Hasn't happened to me yet, but I just watched The Tranny flip out at someone else in his circle of friends, declaring him a Suppressive Person. That's okay, I'm sure he'll make friends with yet another Discord-Reddit troon, he already gleefully told us he was participating in tranny threesomes.

It's. A fetish.
I honestly think that if someone came out to me as trans at this point, the first question I'd ask is, "What if you're wrong?"

It's the one thing that no one bothers to consider up front.
 
I honestly think that if someone came out to me as trans at this point, the first question I'd ask is, "What if you're wrong?"

It's the one thing that no one bothers to consider up front.
I didn't bother. I could tell he'd been encouraged to do this from all angles. He started doing + saying absolutely schizo things right from the drop. It was shocking in this... "the bizarre things that happen on the internet with fake people are happening in front of my eyes" kind of way. Claiming he can "feel the changes" after the first estrogen shot, switching between mincing and behaving normally and claiming it's because him and the troon are different people. And even though we know this happens and talk about it here, it's madness when you see it IRL: A mental health professional saw this behavior and went "yep, I agree! Lack of HRT is what's wrong with you! Full troon ahead!"
 
My ex trooned out around 2010. It’s funny looking back because their playbook has been the same for 15 years at least. This person told me about terfs, John Money, how technically he was my first “lesbian” experience even though I didn’t know it at the time (I thought he was joking, but now I see he was dead serious.) He was REALLY into Tumblr (jfc these people are carbon copies of each other.) He turned to camwork too, but I don’t know if that was part of the fetish or if his family cut him off from all of their money.

Still, I thought, “Being a woman kinda sucks sometimes, if you wanna get street harassed walking home from work, I guess you mean that shit.” Another thing I found semi-convincing was a study about how MTFs don’t experience phantom limb sensation as often as regular men who have lost their penises. Like okay, maybe their bodies are miswired somehow, fuck do I know? I didn’t take a deep dive into the topic because I didn’t find it that interesting and besides, it’s such a rare disorder, it’s not like I was ever going to meet another person like him, right?

I really underestimated the sexual component of it. In my defense, I’ve never watched porn on purpose (I once innocently searched “Scooby” on Twitter. Turns out Velma really likes BBC. I was just looking for a news story about a lost dog.) I vaguely knew about 4chan but had never visited, and the worst I ever did online was steal music (with dial-up, so I feel like I paid for it with my suffering instead.) Of course I’d read at least (1) history or true crime book, I knew what evil horny men are capable of doing. But this other world of AGP, sissy hypno, forced feminization, dyke conversion, the works—just entirely different reality from mine, not on my radar at all.

I did ask him once if he’d get surgery but he told me it was like 40 grand and sometimes you lose sensation. Oh, and he used to talk about how sad he was about being “barren.” 🙄 I remember pushing back on his ideas because it all sounded like stereotypes to me, but he insisted it was Heckin’ Different, because some guy tried to turn a boy into a girl this one time and it failed.

He snapped at me one day over something dumb and I just blocked him, I’m not gonna put up with some grown man in pigtails being rude to me. (Seriously, why do they think they look good in pigtails?) No huge loss, we were already exes and all. I’d tried hanging out with him once after he trooned out, at the mall with a mutual friend of ours, but it was just weird as fuck seeing this man looking like he just robbed Claire’s and Hot Topic. I kinda wish I’d stayed their friend though because I’m curious to know if they ever got the surgery after insurance started covering it. Probably not because he’s clearly AGP, but some of those MFers talk themselves into it anyway, so who knows?

I’m glad no one super close to me has trooned out. It looks like absolute hell. I feel bad for the wives especially, this guy gave NO INDICATION that he was like this. It’s a pretty easy subculture to miss if you’re relatively normal or too busy to be online for long. Sure, he liked nerdy shit and was probably autistic (his parents were old as balls.) He said he’d felt like this since he was 4, but never mentioned it once during our year-long relationship, so who knows if that’s even true. Sorry this is long as hell, I hadn’t thought about this guy in years and kept remembering more shit. I really had no idea that this was going to metastasize throughout the world and he provided me with the blueprint of the cancer 15 years ago.
 
Normally I feel sorry for the wives, but with my troon it's something extra frightening. I don't get the sense that she's just going along with it, being a "good handmaiden" or whatever the usual story you see is. I get the distinct impression that it was her idea. She'd been following tranny youtubers online for several years before this all started and talked HIM into watching them. She's online all the time looking for freakier wigs, more ridiculous dresses, sending them over to him all day. Getting *handsy* with him now that he's trooned out. Getting angry about Orange Man, gleeful that she now "gets to" be a lesbian. As perverted and schizo and creepy as he is, she's the fuel behind this engine and it blew my mind.
 
exfurfag here and I lost a good number of friends to the trooning where they just become akward assholes to be around because they only talked about HRT stuff instead of furry porn or games.
I think i now know how straight people feel when somone comes out as gay and won't stop talking about homosexual interests.
Like I know I am a degenerate furfag or atleast used to be one, but they take it to a whole nother level.
I dont know how we reached it but now furries are technically the sane ones in the current timeline or at least people are like (thank god it's just a furry) now.
 
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Normally I feel sorry for the wives, but with my troon it's something extra frightening. I don't get the sense that she's just going along with it, being a "good handmaiden" or whatever the usual story you see is. I get the distinct impression that it was her idea. She'd been following tranny youtubers online for several years before this all started and talked HIM into watching them. She's online all the time looking for freakier wigs, more ridiculous dresses, sending them over to him all day. Getting *handsy* with him now that he's trooned out. Getting angry about Orange Man, gleeful that she now "gets to" be a lesbian. As perverted and schizo and creepy as he is, she's the fuel behind this engine and it blew my mind.
Would that count as Munchausen-by-proxy? I know mothers often turn being moms into their entire identity, especially the ones with special needs kids. It’s a necessary evil if your kid has a rare disorder or orphan disease, you have to become their advocate to keep them alive. We’ve also seen how that impulse can backfire, mommy saw you look extra hard at the pink crayon one time and it turns out she has a speshul kid just like the ones on her favorite app! And now she has a community telling her she’s so strong for being their mom. “Hang in there, mama bear!” I guess that gets just as addicting as porn is for men. Turns out some people really, really can’t handle having a personal computer in their pocket at all times. You used to have to go outside to find a cult or be born into it—now it’s all right here, being shown to you to increase your engagement with social media and thus giving them more money in advertising dollars.

Encouraging your mentally ill spouse though, that’s extra insane. I don’t even know where to start with your story. When I say I feel bad for the wives, definitely not her. 😂

I know some of them go “Oh okay, let’s go get you some makeup!” I think they’re just happy they have a mutual hobby now or they’re trying to be supportive. “Hey, it could be worse, he could be cheating on me, right? Maybe this will finally make him happy.” Especially when those women find out a few kids in, oof. Those women pretty quickly change their minds though, the transbians often complain that their wives were nice at first and now they’re suddenly divorcing and losing custody of the kids!

God, what a weird social contagion. I’m a little scared to see what comes next.
 
To sum alot of peoples posts here, yeah alot of it really is munchausen by proxy not just limited to mothers but also outsider influences too like kids being exposed to shit like drag or pride stuff at a young age when its really sexual degeneracy yeah its literally turning lot of people mentioned in this thread, into inevitable 41 percent rate increasments period.
 
I think there is something about these fields that appeals to guys touched with tism. Especially if it's aspects of those field where they'll be dealing with a lot of mechanics. I also suspect that for a lot of them they like the contrast and get a kick out of having such a fetish while around other men, I have no doubt many of them probably wear lingerie to their day jobs, it's just the sort of stuff they do as they work up to being purely exhibitionistic.

The autism part should really be studied for real legit because it's like nearly every single one shows diagnostic criteria for that. Same with pooners. There is just something about that psychology that makes one very susceptible to it. Perhaps the propensity for developing strange fetishes? Developmentally delayed people can be very sexual in their own tard way and autism is technically a developmental disorder despite some still being what we would consider high functioning. Jobs like the military and the police also (usually) have very strict rules of conduct and hierarchy making them easier environment for someone socially stunted to deal with as they're told in black and white terms what to do and say when.

TL;DR I think it's actually that these types of jobs attract autism and it's autism that's the risk factor.

There is a lot of studies on autism in troons actually.
transmitter have a piece on it. Swedish university hospitals have come out with reports wich made the the National Board of Social Affairs and Health change their guidelines in treating gender dysphoria.
You also have Abigail Shriers book "irreversible damage" about women trooning out and the massive overlap with autism.
You also have this wikipedia article on it. Extremly cautious and not mentioning (from what I could see) the possibility that autistic people is more likely to be influenced by other people, my guess due to a sense of belonging and community.

There is information out there but we just dont talk about it enough and when troons talk about it it's just downplayed as ✨️quirky✨️.
"The autistic urge to make dress go spinny UWU".

I think its pretty safe to assume most pooners you meet are autistic, or at least many of them and maybe one way to reach them is to talk to them as autists first and foremost and make the discussion more easily digested.
I don't have any experience with autism so I can't give advice on how but I'm sure there's plenty of Information out there if you would need it ❤️
 
It's one thing when the strange cows on the fruit website behave like this, but it's quite another when you watch it happen in front of you real-time. This fetish takes over the person's entire being. It's a death march, and the speed varies, but god damn. Burning bridges, having rageouts at anyone who DARES express skepticism. Decade-long friendships cut off immediately because someone finds his latest antics creepy. And he responds by freaking out and getting even creepier. Hasn't happened to me yet, but I just watched The Tranny flip out at someone else in his circle of friends, declaring him a Suppressive Person. That's okay, I'm sure he'll make friends with yet another Discord-Reddit troon, he already gleefully told us he was participating in tranny threesomes.

It's. A fetish.
Oh dear god. It's stupidity on all fronts, then. I was given the drama rundown. The equivalent of, "Would you be willing to do (the thing you do for a living) for me?", "Sure, but I usually get paid more for that", "YOU HAVE WOUNDED ME IRREPARABLY, NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN".
So the tranny went ballistic over some absolutely minor thing (which, duh, I knew it would be, that's what it always is). But even better, the mutual friend framed it as "I'm hoping she'll be open to my apology soon".

Why. The fuck. Do you people. Keep ENCOURAGING this behavior. It's a cautionary tale. The troon section of the internet is lying. If you were maybe a little off-kilter before, trooning out doesn't make you "better". It gives you "euphoria" (read: erections), fucks with your mind, and turns you into a cluster B nightmare toward everyone around you. Every time. I've never seen a troonout not accompanied by florid mental illness and volatile freakouts. It's why I post in Stinkditch. I've seen it. I know these freaks online are real.
 
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I dont know how we reached it but now furries are technically the sane ones in the current timeline or at least people are like (thank god it's just a furry) now.
You would be surprised how many furfags are KF-level of "transphobia" behind closed doors or whenever nothing is recording. Won't see them stepping out of line on Xitter though.
 
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