Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Lovely Kin]

I live in Trans Central. There is no escaping it without moving, which I can't do until some elderly loved ones who I'm responsible for are gone. And even if I move somewhere more sane, if my kid doesn't snap back out of it this time, I can't escape it no matter where I go. This shit is evil. It's destroyed fandom, it's made tech work dudes even worse to deal with now that they're dolls or whatever the latest crap is, and it's infected my family. I'm so fucking done.

Sounds like somewhere in the pacific northwest, but if not, I'm sorry either way. The entire ideology is garbage, and I hope one day in history it's looked back upon as one of the biggest mistakes we tolerated.

 

[Hum Humina]

Sounds like somewhere in the pacific northwest, but if not, I'm sorry either way. The entire ideology is garbage, and I hope one day in history it's looked back upon as one of the biggest mistakes we tolerated.

Whenever people say they've never seen a trans person in the wild, I know they don't live around these parts. When my daughter went through this the first time, and I was still trying to be a supportive mom, I looked into the various therapy/evaluation options and realized within five minutes that all they would do was affirm. Which is why almost everyone I know from tech with a teen or young adult daughter around here now has a "son" with a pube beard and a frog voice. Me, on the other hand, I couldn't ignore the glaring red flags and the rapid change in demographic. I kept thinking maybe one of my friends would also see it when it hit their household, but they're too ideology blind, so I can't even talk about it in public. I'm dealing with a nightmare, but if I said jack shit about it, I'd be expected to celebrate, and if not, I'd be unpersoned. It's fucking lonely and isolating to live in reality. The PNW has always been filled with autists (myself included, or else I wouldn't have spent so many years reading this place), but it didn't used to be quite as delusional.

 

[Marvin]

Whenever people say they've never seen a trans person in the wild, I know they don't live around these parts.

Well, and even if you have seen a trans person in the wild once or twice, that the environment is so absurdly "supportive" of that perspective and hostile to other perspective changes the dynamics completely.

So I live in a midatlantic, east coast city. Sure, blue state and lots of progressive types, but we still do have more conservative catholic immigrant populations, and blue collar workers (like dockworkers), and especially the blacks, that sorta keep the political scene balanced on the troon issue.

So sure, once in awhile I'll see one troon around the neighborhood, and while it's cringy, they usually behave themselves. They aren't chimping out at minor infractions so much. Frankly, I think the black people freak them out a bit.

But when they show up in a group, they get a lot more bold. When they start having a big influence on local politics. When they're known to be regular patrons of an area. Suddenly they're way more aggressive. They'll pop off and freak out at minor insults in ways they never would've before if they weren't so powerful.

There's woke / gayborhood areas in my city, of course. Like I'm sure the area around the art college is pretty woke. But outside of those specific areas, even the nicer white areas aren't beholden to the troons. I suspect it's not like that on the west coast.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I can see why many call it tranime, the simplistic plots appeal to autists like Troons and the easy way to tell who's good and bad. Also the disturbing amount of fetishistic stuff snuck into anime pulls them into trooning out.

I've long had a theory that cluster s (narcs, borderlines, etc.) are obsessed with anime because of how emotions are portrayed. Everything is extreme. The characters have huge eyes that show everything they're feeling. Characters aren't just smiling when they're happy, they're raining music notes. When characters are angry, they start screaming and their animation lines get jagged. Insane characters aren't just somewhat off, they laugh maniacally and make physically impossible facial expressions.

All of this appeals to people with impaired empathy and/or extreme versions of normal human emotions. Real people aren't as cute or crazy, and they don't follow established media tropes that function like a shortcut to understanding their feelings. They relate more to these characters than they do to real people, and eventually they start wanting to become them.

 

[xX_rAcE_wAr_420_Xx]

Whenever people say they've never seen a trans person in the wild, I know they don't live around these parts.

I suspect it's not like that on the west coast.

Yeah, I can confirm this is absolutely my experience. There's a tipping point, as with many things, where it goes from being an oddity that's viable to criticize and becomes the new reality and you're the problem if you clash with it. Maybe in other places, you see a clear hon at the supermarket and you mind your own business, but you overhear kids snickering and that's the usual reaction. Here, you go to the grocery store and the cashier is a short girl with bad acne, a wispy mustache, and her nametag says "Ben - he/him"; are you going to snicker, or would you like to buy your groceries and get back to your errands? Your coworker has a picture of his son on his desk, and one day it's gone and he offhandedly mentions that she goes by 'Kikuri' now, and you get to decide whether you'd like a trip to HR or not. God forbid you play Magic or board games or have other nerdy hobbies like that, approximately 20% of people you find on local meetup groups will be Liliths; the fact they often organize on Discord is your first clue.

And then it starts seeping into your direct social circles, your friend from college who moved into the city a while back now takes hormones and loudly corrects anyone who calls him "he", and every third girl in your extended friend group is a chubby pixie-cut-wearing septum-piercing-owning enby. If you're smart, you only make the mistake once - you're hanging out at a house party, you have a couple beers, you remark that 5-10 years ago you'd just call all these chicks "emo" or "scene", and after half your """friends""" get mad at you over it you play it off as JUST A JOKE HAHA REALLY and make a mental note that these people are not to be trusted. Over time the list grows, and you realize only a couple of your friends are free from the thought-terminating programming that kicks in and makes them say "come on, folx, please don't say slurs" when you call them a retard.

The live-and-let-live mentality of leftism combined with the "Keep Portland Weird!" attitude leads to this kind of thing. The outcasts and punks should be listened to, they provide new insights and are willing to think outside the box, and then when those people de facto hold the institutional power to punish others then actually questioning gender ideology should be a crime, bigot.

If Internet Athiesm weren't dead and gay, maybe they'd have a lot to say about the parallels between previous religious/societal norms and what we have now. They talked a big game about how it was backwards logic to force businesses to be closed on Sundays, now you have gyms and spas twisting themselves into knots about whether they'll get sued and fined for restricting "bepenised individuals" from certain classes and gym times.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

If Internet Athiesm weren't dead and gay, maybe they'd have a lot to say about the parallels between previous religious/societal norms and what we have now.

The reason why internet atheism is dead and gay is because it was mostly comprised of retards who hated their parents at best, or degenerate losers who were assmad that their church/pastor told them that the lifestyle they wanted to practice was morally wrong, nevermind the fact that many of the things they wanted to do that their former religion forbade is also shit that is unhealthy and gross by any sane person's standard's, not just religionists.

Even the atheists that did notice parallels between religious nutcases of the past and SJWs of the present eventually cowed to the latter, because their beliefs weren't based off of anything but rejection of their parents' religion and their love for degeneracy, two things they have in common with wokists.

 

[ScurvyRat]

If only I lived in this reality. Maybe its just where I live, but the vast majority of women that I talk to are bought into the tranny cult HARD.
There's no faster way to end a date than to say something even slightly transphobic.

See my reply to @ephermeral above to see what happens if do manage to score a date with a true and honest woman....

Pretty funny that I made these comments, accurately predicting my upcoming date.

Met this nice (seemingly) normal girl. Kinda alt-ish, definitely my type. Not quite "goth" but clear that's where she was when she was a teenager. She's mid 20s, in school to become a veterinarian.
Had a nice date, our 2nd one. Got some drinks, walked around. She seemed very interested, didn't want to leave the date. We ended up hanging out by her car, talking, for like half an hour. That was when she gave me her discord and invited me to her server

I honestly should have known right then, but I figured it out when I got home. First I saw her profile: They/them.

Oh. Oh noooooooo.

I hopped into her server and this was the first thing I saw:



Bruh


The server was full of like 20 dudes. All varying forms of retarded and gay. Trannies, furries, whole fucking CAST of degenerate retards, but they all had one thing in common. THEY WERE ALL SIMPING FOR THIS GIRL!!!
I played a round of PEAK with them. They all sucked ass at the game, I was the only one who made it to the top.


Afterwards I went to bed, resolved to leave the server in the morning. However, I woke up with a text from the girl saying "Hey if you could not mention us going out to my friends, I would appreciate it. It makes everyone uncomfortable"

Alright bitch, you just went out on a date with me but you want me to keep that from your simps? Don't want them getting jealous or something? Trying to hide your new boytoy from all the friendzoned faggots? I digress.

I confronted her on this, which quickly devolved into her calling me an incel and admitting to leading guys on. Stating that it was a "theme" for her. When I called her out on flirting with me, going on dates, and then turning around and feigning disinterest and noted that if this was a "theme" she's probably doing it with other guys too. She responded "Does it make you feel superior to tell mentally ill people that they're the problem?"



I'm sorry, but I don't know of any mental illness that makes you into an attention whore who gets off on recruiting guys to your tranny simp army. (INB4 BPD)

She blocked me after I asked her "If you're too mentally ill to handle getting called out for bad behavior, how the fuck do you expect to be a vet?"

So, that's what dating for straight men has been like recently. I didn't ask for this shit. I just want a cute wife.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Even the atheists that did notice parallels between religious nutcases of the past and SJWs of the present eventually cowed to the latter, because their beliefs weren't based off of anything but rejection of their parents' religion and their love for degeneracy, two things they have in common with wokists.

Richard Dawkins is the rare exception to this. He seems to genuinely dislike any sort of belief system that lends itself to science denial. I may not agree with the man on everything (between gender ideology and Christianity, only the former requires you to actively deny reality), but I respect his consistency.

 

[Terfatron]

Stating that it was a "theme" for her.

Im apparently old these days so wtf is a "theme"? Just another way of saying "i know what im doing is wrong but I refuse to change so fuck you"?

She sucks, that much is obvious but im kinda sad you didnt go straight to the discord and posted your texts with her.
I think youre allowed to go a little scorched earth, as a treat. Especially if that is giving troons a reality check.

And btw, dont worry. A Normal cute wife will come along and you will laugh at trannies together and gossip about dumb lolcow shit over pancakes.

 

[Protistology]

To be fair, if I was an average woman in 2025, I would also want to play Simp Pokemon Go.

 

[ScurvyRat]

She sucks, that much is obvious but im kinda sad you didnt go straight to the discord and posted your texts with her.

I left the discord after she asked me not to tell her friends about us. Can't worry about me talking to them if I simply never speak with them again

And yes, her saying it was a "theme" for her is just her saying "lol I do this all the time, aren't I so quirky?"
No bitch, you're a 24 year old woman infantilizing herself by claiming to be incapable of the most BASIC dating etiquette. Fuck. You.

To be fair, if I was an average woman in 2025, I would also want to play Simp Pokemon Go.

Who needs a fulfilling long term relationship when you can go to the council of simps with all of your problems? Having a real boyfriend is practically superfluous!

 

[high and tired]

My high school friend that I previously posted about has married another troon. Literally a gay relationship involving two men pretending to be women who are lesbians. I have no clue how you can be so entrenched in tranny shit that you become prison gay. He voluntarily left Facebook after the 2024 election because it was becoming “too right wing” and “bigoted” so he moved over to Bluesky. I don’t have a Bluesky account nor do I care to sign up so I can’t keep track of what he’s up to. He’s never been too active on social media so perhaps he doesn’t post much on Bluesky.

He has 3 sisters (1 older, 2 younger) who I feel bad for. Can’t say if they indulge in their brother’s tranny delusion because they’re inactive on social media as well. I can’t imagine what his parents are going through, considering they lost their only son. He took his tranny husband’s name so at least his family’s name isn’t associated with a troon anymore.

I don’t know of many trannies personally, but there’s quite a few enbies (women, no shocker) who were normal back in the day but were then poisoned by either college or Internet brain rot. I just don’t see them recovering from this, even the enbies. How are you nearing 30 still entertaining this retardation? At this point, I’m waiting for the inevitable “RIP [tranny name]” status update on Facebook, because the likelihood of my high school friend backing out of this shit is 0%.

 

[FloydsFeedandSeed]

I noticed that my friend who trooned out is no longer friends with either of his parents on his FB page. He was friends with both of them a few months back. First his dad unfriended, now his mom did as well. Ever since he changed his picture and name to his trooned out self.
I am friends with his dad (I worked on his car with him years ago so we kept in touch for the odd thing) and can see one less mutual on my troon friend.

His parents are deeply against trannies from what I can tell. Oh how I would have loved to be a fly on the wall at his place when he started falling into that pit. It likely contributed to the mental health issues he said he was having when they kicked him out.

 

[Pluciferous]

The reason why internet atheism is dead and gay is because it was mostly comprised of retards who hated their parents at best, or degenerate losers who were assmad that their church/pastor told them that the lifestyle they wanted to practice was morally wrong, nevermind the fact that many of the things they wanted to do that their former religion forbade is also shit that is unhealthy and gross by any sane person's standard's, not just religionists.

The reason why internet atheism is dead and gay is because Rebecca Watson stabbed it in the back.

Historical Thread 'Rebecca Kay Watson / Skepchick'

Jun 26, 2023

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Imagine if Logan Paul suddenly insisted he deserved a seat at the Algonquin Round Table. Now imagine he got one and the moment he sat down he started yelling to anybody who would listen that the seats were...

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[Internet Wizard]

How do I tell my IRL pooner friends that I find it offputting when they fetishize men? Especially gay men?
It's funny because in the same community I'll have radfems (who see gay men as disgusting and refuse to be friends with them) as well as pooners who admit to being full-blown fujos.
And no, cutting them off would be dumb on my end

Spoiler: shit nobody cares about

Some of my other friends agree with me in thinking said pooner's boyfriend is a huge chaser (or at least gives those vibes off). I truly hate him, because he's such a smartass that there's no way to not find him insufferable even if you're supportive.
Regardless, I've come to terms with having to deal with trans people IRL and I don't think it'll get much better, unless I initiate plan "Move to Indiana" or something. As of right now I'm good friends with two and have been since I was a freshman, and I'm not going to cut them off even if I disagree with them heavily on some things

The server was full of like 20 dudes. All varying forms of retarded and gay. Trannies, furries, whole fucking CAST of degenerate retards, but they all had one thing in common. THEY WERE ALL SIMPING FOR THIS GIRL!!!

Reminds me of my ex, would have a whole web of Discord orbitters. My advice is to book it, at best she's going to be noncommital and a drain on your life at worst she will be a BPD nightmare

 

[Lovely Kin]

My high school friend that I previously posted about has married another troon. Literally a gay relationship involving two men pretending to be women who are lesbians. I have no clue how you can be so entrenched in tranny shit that you become prison gay. He voluntarily left Facebook after the 2024 election because it was becoming “too right wing” and “bigoted” so he moved over to Bluesky. I don’t have a Bluesky account nor do I care to sign up so I can’t keep track of what he’s up to. He’s never been too active on social media so perhaps he doesn’t post much on Bluesky.

Troons larping as lesbians tend to be one of the more disgusting ones. Someone can become that entrenched through porn addiction, and/or mental illness being encouraged by someone that it's okay. Or they can start off as spergs like my ex-friend did before someone began telling him he should troon out.

The reason why internet atheism is dead and gay is because Rebecca Watson stabbed it in the back.

I always felt like it was going to die either way, but she certainly killed it.

 

[Sandshrew]

Not about someone trooning out, but my friend is considering moving in with a man and a nonbinary woman. And I warned her saying that sounds like they're trying to set her up for some weird polyamory orgy sex shit. I know a different girl who lived in this exact living configuration (of 1 man + 1 nonbinary woman, not these specific people), and they always pressured her for sex. She insisted that it's fine, but I can't help but be worried, and I really HOPE I'm proven wrong. But nonbinary girls have a reputation for being very mentally unstable, promiscuous, and bad at boundaries. And....men who really want to live with women they're not dating also tend to be creeps. Am I overreacting to be extremely concerned?

 

[Aunt Carol]

Am I overreacting to be extremely concerned?

Mail yourself an envelope with a note inside stating "they will try to recruit <friend> into their polycule." The cancellation stamp will poor-man's copyright your prediction.

 

[xX_rAcE_wAr_420_Xx]

Am I overreacting to be extremely concerned?

I would say yes, "extremely" is pushing it, but you are correct that this is not a good situation to put oneself in if there are other options. Like it beats being homeless, but only probably.

But nonbinary girls have a reputation for being very mentally unstable, promiscuous, and bad at boundaries.

Counterpoint, there's another category of them that are slightly more stable but will constantly bitch about anything related to femininity or being a woman. These tend to be much less promiscuous but view their entire lives through the false dichotomy of a 5-year-old's understanding of gender, so expect every interaction to have something to do with tender stuff. It's up to your friend which would be more annoying to deal with.

that sounds like they're trying to set her up for some weird polyamory orgy sex shit

Let's say you're both a little right, and the other couple IS into polyamory and has an open relationship, but they largely respect her wishes and leave her alone. They're still going to be bringing a parade of goblin freaks into that apartment, their friends are going to be talking polycules and hooking up and kinks, people are going to be wearing collars and other fetish stuff - your friend WILL see a fursuit, if only a partial one - and on weekends their bedroom is going to smell like burnt rubber and gym socks. At least once your friend is going to see someone getting head on the living room couch, and even if the couple respects her boundaries, at least one of their extended circle is going to try to bang her. On the plus side, she can use this as leverage to move in with her boyfriend sooner.

So yeah I wouldn't say "extremely concerned", but eventually it will occur to her that she's paying a good chunk of cash to rent a place she doesn't like being. And yeah I guess worst case she gets AIDS.

 

[Po's Cootah]

Powerleveling and my two cents, but I almost did something like that once.

Spoiler

I once almost considered being a pooner as an older teen... Almost. I was exposed to gay porn through the internet and I was also exploring myself, so I saw my body as boring. Luckily the people who supported me suggested me to think twice before doing it, therefore I remained being the woman I was born as.

I decided to say this because I just saw the GRS/SRS horrors thread and... Yeah. When it comes to myself, I'm glad I never did it.

Not about someone trooning out, but my friend is considering moving in with a man and a nonbinary woman. And I warned her saying that sounds like they're trying to set her up for some weird polyamory orgy sex shit. I know a different girl who lived in this exact living configuration (of 1 man + 1 nonbinary woman, not these specific people), and they always pressured her for sex. She insisted that it's fine, but I can't help but be worried, and I really HOPE I'm proven wrong. But nonbinary girls have a reputation for being very mentally unstable, promiscuous, and bad at boundaries. And....men who really want to live with women they're not dating also tend to be creeps. Am I overreacting to be extremely concerned?

If you suspect your friend is in an abusive relationship, then you SHOULD be concerned. Simple as that. Their partners' genders don't matter. Abusers are abusers.