Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

[WonderWino]

Normally there's nothing wrong with crying, but when people are using it to manipulate people, everything is wrong with it. I wouldn't put it past him to work himself up, and once the tears start falling he hits record and places it on YouTube.

If he starts doing that he'll end up triggering another freakout before long and get himself thrown back in eastern state. Lucas is shit at controlling his emotions once they start getting riled up

I’m struggling to quote today but, regarding some recent discussions on Lucas’s health and finances, here are my conclusions.
He is definitely in Mallon for MH and medical issues. Those places often will have mentally I’ll people with medical stuff bc surprisingly mentally I’ll people suck at self-care.

I don’t think that Lucas’s feet will ever heal as that’s how it goes for diabetics. I think he knows that they either stay managed or get cut off but will never admit it. The crazy thing is him pretending he will ever live independently again. The only way that happens is he gets kicked out or walks out of Mallon. He has a payee (still) and that person is appointed by the court based on his inability to make monetary decisions. Just bc Mallon place takes most of his money doesn’t mean he no longer needs a payee. They won’t remove his payee ever. So his payee isn’t going to sign off on him leaving. So he walks out or is turfed.

Worst/best of all is that his case manager and his later aren’t the same. So when he is out in his own, he can’t just make a call and get a place. He has to get coordination from his payee and case manager at SNAP who he probably no longer has while he is in Mallon. He will also not have EBT for a couple of months as that went away due to Mallon place feeding him 3 meals a day. So I think Lucas will walk out expecting a full check and EBT card with a brief delay before finding a cushy apt but when that doesn’t occur, it will be glorious.

I wonder if when he gets to this point if lucas will get desperate and start trying to steal food and scam people again like he did back in his roommate days. I mean there is no way he'd be able to handle the small amount of food shelters would give him, and is banned from most of them for his behavior anyway so leaving mallon place will put him in a legit dangerous situation with limited if any access to food for awhile. I figure he'll either start to panic and resort to stealing or figure he has no options and deliberately work himself up and get committed again or call in suicide threats to get off the street and some food. Though getting committed or making suicide threats won't solve is problems as they'll only let him stay a few days at most

 

[Jeep1971]

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He's looking more undead by the meme.

Its all part of his plan. He didn't have a falling out with isik and shareef, thats all a ploy so people don't realize it was lucas himself who sent them off into the wilds of washington state to recruit more hobos and socialist riffraff for his army. Lucas isn't truly making insane board games, its just a cover so the staff don't notice his stash of real games that he is using for prussian style wargaming to plan the revolution and train several of the nursing home residents as his lieutenants. When the time is right lucas will lead a revolt and the residents will rise up against the staff and seize mallon place as lucas's HQ to command the revolutionary forces. He'll wait until isik returns and surrounds the nursing home to make his move. From there his army will seize spokane, liberate eastern state and use the cities homeless shelters as command posts. If it all goes wrong, lucas and his army will retreat to mount rainier, seize the ski resort, with lucas using the lodge as his alpine fortress, while he holds the mountain spartacus style and waits for hobos and teen girls from around the country to rally to his cause, and for bernie sanders himself to publicly endorse him

.....But since lucas doesn't think ahead further than his next meal he'll have neglected to plan for anything resembling logistics and forgot about the need for supplies to last more than a few days and his alpine hobo army will collapse as it starts to starve and they start eating each other. When the swat teams, FBI and army finally recapture the mountain all they'll find left of lucas his his corpse being slowly roasted rotisserie style in a snowbank by a handful of deranged teen girls his army captured when they took the resort, and personally drove mad with fear and his eugenics ranting and who ultimately turned on him out of starvation. Which of course, was all part of his plan, as in doing so they'll contract his mrsa, deposit lucas fat in their bodies and live on through them, hoping one of them will get pregnant and he'll be reborn by mrsa colonizing the developing fetus

You should write fiction.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

If he starts doing that he'll end up triggering another freakout before long and get himself thrown back in eastern state. Lucas is shit at controlling his emotions once they start getting riled up


I wonder if when he gets to this point if lucas will get desperate and start trying to steal food and scam people again like he did back in his roommate days. I mean there is no way he'd be able to handle the small amount of food shelters would give him, and is banned from most of them for his behavior anyway so leaving mallon place will put him in a legit dangerous situation with limited if any access to food for awhile. I figure he'll either start to panic and resort to stealing or figure he has no options and deliberately work himself up and get committed again or call in suicide threats to get off the street and some food. Though getting committed or making suicide threats won't solve is problems as they'll only let him stay a few days at most

I found the perfect food source for Lucas at the grocery store today.

 

[Stafford Beer Bong]

I don’t think that Lucas’s feet will ever heal as that’s how it goes for diabetics. I think he knows that they either stay managed or get cut off but will never admit it. The crazy thing is him pretending he will ever live independently again.

These have been my thoughts lately about his situation. Perhaps his latest sobbing, “woe is me“ video is the result of getting bad news from doctors/medical staff at Mallon about his physical condition?

I think there is a very good chance he has been given a sobering talking-to about his diabetes and that irreparable damage has been done to his feet due to his neglect all these years. He is at that age where things start to turn south quick if you don’t take proper care of yourself.

I think our Wern may finally be getting a dose of reality he can’t deny or wish away now.

 

[Pump Meat]

He is definitely in Mallon for MH and medical issues.

I think this is undeniable.

 

[Cnaiur urs Skiotha]

Says the Wern who is out of breath walking five steps in any direction
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The stuff where he pretends he's some kind of rebel individualist bad boy of Gen X, trying to teach these conformist money-worshiping Gen Z kids how to really think for themselves, is so funny to me. Lucas isn't alone because he bravely went his own way.

Oh, yeah. This is definitely right. Lucas could not just decide on to leave on his own and live at the bus station or House of Charity. His payee would never allow it. Ironically, he may have to get evicted to get his Clinkerdagger money back. But he would be missing his precious food stamp money for a bit.

The content would be glorious if Lucas did not lose or break his phone, which there is a very real possibility that he would.

But Lucas will just keep on going and doing what he does. He has to keep going. He doesn't have a choice.

"I have to keep going, I don't have a choice" gives me some feelings, not necessarily sympathy for Lucas (I think he does have a choice and makes choices every day) but just like... mental illness is crazy (hah). I think there's a disconnect between what Lucas means in reposting this, vs. what it means to an observer. Presumably to Lucas this is vaguely inspiring? "I have to keep going on my love quest, I have no choice, I owe it to My Future Wife" etc, he's said that type of shit before. But to us, it's easy to read it as an unconscious admission that he is locked into a pathological pattern of behavior that he feels compelled to repeat. I guess this is a philosophical question in terms of how much choice anybody actually has, but it is kind of true that schizophrenia, rapid-cycling bipolar, and probable autism have in a sense narrowed the range of Lucas' choices and thought patterns.

Now like I said I refuse to let him off the hook, I think he has made a series of disastrous choices in his life, all motivated by short-term pleasure seeking and discomfort avoidance. The choice to not even try to hold jobs, the choice to treat friends, family and strangers like shit, the choice to not take meds unless compelled, and most disastrously the choice to cling like a drowning man to the fantasy of a hot teenage wife-mommy and to broadcast that fantasy constantly in a series of visibly unhinged youtube videos. In the end he deserves everything he's getting, it's just vaguely chilling when he says shit with a double meaning like that. Like in the one from the summer's psycho freakout where he was screaming and crying in the park at night, he sort of sobs "why can't I stop, why can't I let this go?" I think he meant it rhetorically and just wanted it to seem like he's super devoted to the zoomer baes, but like... bruh. Why can't you stop, why can't you let this go? Actually ask yourself.

 

[ManfromtheMoon]

These have been my thoughts lately about his situation. Perhaps his latest sobbing, “woe is me“ video is the result of getting bad news from doctors/medical staff at Mallon about his physical condition?

I think there is a very good chance he has been given a sobering talking-to about his diabetes and that irreparable damage has been done to his feet due to his neglect all these years. He is at that age where things start to turn south quick if you don’t take proper care of yourself.

I think our Wern may finally be getting a dose of reality he can’t deny or wish away now.

That and getting exposed as a pedo by TGR, even though he posts countless vids on his love for the barely legal portion of the GEN Z honeys and his recently uncovered kink for petite asian galpals. Yeah lucas likes asians cause they're submissive, not because they look prepubescent until they reach mid 30s.

Lucas's world is caving in, I expect something big will happen soon.

Bad news behind the scenes + Getting exposed as a pedo = Chimpout timer starting

 

[Amewsed]

Probably

 

[WonderWino]

These have been my thoughts lately about his situation. Perhaps his latest sobbing, “woe is me“ video is the result of getting bad news from doctors/medical staff at Mallon about his physical condition?

I think there is a very good chance he has been given a sobering talking-to about his diabetes and that irreparable damage has been done to his feet due to his neglect all these years. He is at that age where things start to turn south quick if you don’t take proper care of yourself.

I think our Wern may finally be getting a dose of reality he can’t deny or wish away now.

Wouldn't surprise me, it would make alot of sense. Not to mention if thats the case they would be putting him on one of those special diabetic diets that nursing homes give to such people. I've seen enough of them to know lucas would not be happy about that. Very low sugar, salt and fat, no juice, no cookies at snack time, no ice cream. The seniors hate it so I can only imagine how pissed lucas would be after a few days of that

His similarities to how bill eats here is eerie. Plus I can see lucas blaming everything on his genes like bill

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

The stuff where he pretends he's some kind of rebel individualist bad boy of Gen X, trying to teach these conformist money-worshiping Gen Z kids how to really think for themselves, is so funny to me. Lucas isn't alone because he bravely went his own way.


"I have to keep going, I don't have a choice" gives me some feelings, not necessarily sympathy for Lucas (I think he does have a choice and makes choices every day) but just like... mental illness is crazy (hah). I think there's a disconnect between what Lucas means in reposting this, vs. what it means to an observer. Presumably to Lucas this is vaguely inspiring? "I have to keep going on my love quest, I have no choice, I owe it to My Future Wife" etc, he's said that type of shit before. But to us, it's easy to read it as an unconscious admission that he is locked into a pathological pattern of behavior that he feels compelled to repeat. I guess this is a philosophical question in terms of how much choice anybody actually has, but it is kind of true that schizophrenia, rapid-cycling bipolar, and probable autism have in a sense narrowed the range of Lucas' choices and thought patterns.

Now like I said I refuse to let him off the hook, I think he has made a series of disastrous choices in his life, all motivated by short-term pleasure seeking and discomfort avoidance. The choice to not even try to hold jobs, the choice to treat friends, family and strangers like shit, the choice to not take meds unless compelled, and most disastrously the choice to cling like a drowning man to the fantasy of a hot teenage wife-mommy and to broadcast that fantasy constantly in a series of visibly unhinged youtube videos. In the end he deserves everything he's getting, it's just vaguely chilling when he says shit with a double meaning like that. Like in the one from the summer's psycho freakout where he was screaming and crying in the park at night, he sort of sobs "why can't I stop, why can't I let this go?" I think he meant it rhetorically and just wanted it to seem like he's super devoted to the zoomer baes, but like... bruh. Why can't you stop, why can't you let this go? Actually ask yourself.

This is so well put, I remember thinking something similar to myself, like that moment of him saying "Why can't I let this go?", did he really mean it, and if any part of him did, why can't he dwell on that thought for a while?

But based on the performative quality of most of Lucas's crying screaming freak outs, (and I mean performative to a degree that's obvious to even the most casual viewer; in the video where he was insisting he was going to commit suicide tonight because no women care about him, there's a point, a half second before the video stops, where Lucas stops screaming and resume a normal facial expression and mien) and the reality that of course anyone who films themselves crying and freaking out is going to be accused of performing for the camera...but a moment where this trying so hard to seem sincere freak out suddenly stops, right as the camera shuts off... it's a little too much to be believable, even if we didn't already know that Lucas was someone who tries as hard as he can to be a manipulator, rarely succeeding.

Usually when you see someone sad and crying, no matter how much anger towards them that you're feeling, it gives you a moment of perspective, because no person who's not a sociopath likes to see someone else necessarily sad, but with lucas, his self-pity is almost as disgusting as his unearned smugness, because you can tell he really really feels so sorry for himself, and Lucas has none of this sympathy for anyone else, his own family included.

 

[Twrx]

This is so well put, I remember thinking something similar to myself, like that moment of him saying "Why can't I let this go?", did he really mean it, and if any part of him did, why can't he dwell on that thought for a while?

But based on the performative quality of most of Lucas's crying screaming freak outs, (and I mean performative to a degree that's obvious to even the most casual viewer; in the video where he was insisting he was going to commit suicide tonight because no women care about him, there's a point, a half second before the video stops, where Lucas stops screaming and resume a normal facial expression and mien) and the reality that of course anyone who films themselves crying and freaking out is going to be accused of performing for the camera...but a moment where this trying so hard to seem sincere freak out suddenly stops, right as the camera shuts off... it's a little too much to be believable, even if we didn't already know that Lucas was someone who tries as hard as he can to be a manipulator, rarely succeeding.

Usually when you see someone sad and crying, no matter how much anger towards them that you're feeling, it gives you a moment of perspective, because no person who's not a sociopath likes to see someone else necessarily sad, but with lucas, his self-pity is almost as disgusting as his unearned smugness, because you can tell he really really feels so sorry for himself, and Lucas has none of this sympathy for anyone else, his own family included.

I have always been told I'm far too compassionate for my own good, and the person that has always said that to me, has always been right. But I can't find any compassion for Lucas. There's not much worse than suicide baiting. It makes people not believe people that are actually at risk, and they take space that actual people in crisis could use.

Save *MY* Life From Suicide

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[Krathnami]

I have always been told I'm far too compassionate for my own good, and the person that has always said that to me, has always been right. But I can't find any compassion for Lucas. There's not much worse than suicide baiting. It makes people not believe people that are actually at risk, and they take space that actual people in crisis could use.

Save *MY* Life From Suicide

youtu.be

I’ve always been a very compassionate person. It’s why I’m in the line of work that I’m in (I teach autistic adults how to live independently). It’s probably my favorite thing about myself. It has also allowed people to take advantage of my good nature. Once in awhile I almost begin to feel some for Lucas just due to how pathetic he is, but the difference between him and my students is that my students bust their asses to improve their situation in life while Lucas takes and takes and takes and is a manipulator. Ultimately Lucas is undeserving of compassion because he’s a genuinely evil individual, but I pity him in the same way that Frodo pitied Sméagol.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

I’ve always been a very compassionate person. It’s why I’m in the line of work that I’m in (I teach autistic adults how to live independently). It’s probably my favorite thing about myself. It has also allowed people to take advantage of my good nature. Once in awhile I almost begin to feel some for Lucas just due to how pathetic he is, but the difference between him and my students is that my students bust their asses to improve their situation in life while Lucas takes and takes and takes and is a manipulator. Ultimately Lucas is undeserving of compassion because he’s a genuinely evil individual, but I pity him in the same way that Frodo pitied Sméagol.

I'm surprised you can even feel sorry for Lucas. Also, big ups to you and people in your field. I'm sure it can feel thankless at times but many of us are appreciative even if we can't express it well.

 

[ManfromtheMoon]

I’ve always been a very compassionate person. It’s why I’m in the line of work that I’m in (I teach autistic adults how to live independently). It’s probably my favorite thing about myself. It has also allowed people to take advantage of my good nature. Once in awhile I almost begin to feel some for Lucas just due to how pathetic he is, but the difference between him and my students is that my students bust their asses to improve their situation in life while Lucas takes and takes and takes and is a manipulator. Ultimately Lucas is undeserving of compassion because he’s a genuinely evil individual, but I pity him in the same way that Frodo pitied Sméagol.

Its ok to feel bad for the lumbering oaf from time to time. Lucas is the type of lolcow that has some tragedy in his story (High fever during childhood that probably gave him brain damage, and his infamous parking lot bonfire). But he's also the same guy who drugged up homeless girls and took them to his room, a far cry to the current incompetent and possibly impotent wern. Current wern is boring and miserable so it's easy to forget how much of a POS he is.

Its ok to feel bad for a mentally ill man
its ok to feel schadenfreude for an incompetent pedo
Lets just enjoy the trainwreck that is Lucas' life

 

[Wernology]

I think our Wern may finally be getting a dose of reality he can’t deny or wish away now.

After the last couple of days in DMs, can confirm.

What I can't confirm are details because he hasn't posted them publicly anywhere yet that I'm aware of and if he hasn't told anyone else in DMs he'd instantly figure out who I am but, this is correct: His world is collapsing around him and reality is making it harder and harder for him to believe the lies he's been telling himself for years.

He is desperately unhappy, usually he'll talk about himself at length whether it's about him, his politics, his games, or just random ranting about something but it's been tricky to get more than two or three word answers out of him and he'll frequently just drop out of conversations which is not normal for him in DM land, in DM land he's typically stoked to have someone to talk to and will babble on and on even if I stop responding.

This saga is definitely an all time low for Lucas because, unlike the LA saga, it's one he can't escape or be bailed out of.

Its ok to feel bad for the lumbering oaf from time to time. Lucas is the type of lolcow that has some tragedy in his story (High fever during childhood that probably gave him brain damage, and his infamous parking lot bonfire). But he's also the same guy who drugged up homeless girls and took them to his room, a far cry to the current incompetent and possibly impotent wern. Current wern is boring and miserable so it's easy to forget how much of a POS he is.

Its ok to feel bad for a mentally ill man
its ok to feel schadenfreude for an incompetent pedo
Lets just enjoy the trainwreck that is Lucas' life

In all honesty, if Lucas didn't have the, "I want to fuck underage girls/young girls" aspect to him, he'd be less of a cow and more just...really pitiable and a good show of a system that's in general failure when it comes to mental and general health care for the poor and homeless as well as a good example of what happens when someone doesn't have a good support system via family or friends.

But, Lucas wants to fuck teenagers and probably younger, so fuck him, he deserves everything bad that he gets.

Lucas hasn't done much video content lately but here are his last two not-game-related ones.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

After the last couple of days in DMs, can confirm.

What I can't confirm are details because he hasn't posted them publicly anywhere yet that I'm aware of and if he hasn't told anyone else in DMs he'd instantly figure out who I am but, this is correct: His world is collapsing around him and reality is making it harder and harder for him to believe the lies he's been telling himself for years.

He is desperately unhappy, usually he'll talk about himself at length whether it's about him, his politics, his games, or just random ranting about something but it's been tricky to get more than two or three word answers out of him and he'll frequently just drop out of conversations which is not normal for him in DM land, in DM land he's typically stoked to have someone to talk to and will babble on and on even if I stop responding.

This saga is definitely an all time low for Lucas because, unlike the LA saga, it's one he can't escape or be bailed out of.



In all honesty, if Lucas didn't have the, "I want to fuck underage girls/young girls" aspect to him, he'd be less of a cow and more just...really pitiable and a good show of a system that's in general failure when it comes to mental and general health care for the poor and homeless as well as a good example of what happens when someone doesn't have a good support system via family or friends.

But, Lucas wants to fuck teenagers and probably younger, so fuck him, he deserves everything bad that he gets.

And even then Lucas had it better than most with mental illness, support from family to give him options for treatment and even a friend that put up with him as a roommate and Suzanne. I feel even if he wasn’t mentally ill he’d still have a shit personality and massive entitlement complex that would make him a creep.

Also I love this vintage Wern compilation it really shows how much of a massive piece of shit he’s been for so many years.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Fighter pilots and paratroopers are the cockiest motherfuckers on the planet. I've lived next to Marine hornet drivers and they're cocky as fuck. I'm a paratrooper, I'm cocky as fuck. I didn't think anyone outside of the fighter pilot community and the airborne community could be any cockier. Until I found out about the freak. He eclipsed everyone. He makes people look like a humble monk with a vow of silence. And it's so fucking unearned. And it's carried his entire life, at least from everything you can read concerning him. He's a high school/college drop out that has given the world nothing, all he does is take. But the question of how and why he developed the attitude and why he carries it still, is never going to be answered. It's the chicken and egg question, but about a tard.

Grew up as a military kid in the Army aviation community.
Apache pilots definitely make the list of cockiest mofo's around.

I wonder how much of Lucas's cockiness is a front though. Like he knows he's a rotting fat diabetic walking corpse who definitely isn't
plenty good", yet he has to project and try and trick people into thinking that he is, in fact, plenty good?

and his recently uncovered kink for petite asian galpals.

Recently uncovered?
It was at least 2016 when he posted this gem of Wernology:

 

[wenttobermuda]

After the last couple of days in DMs, can confirm.

What I can't confirm are details because he hasn't posted them publicly anywhere yet that I'm aware of and if he hasn't told anyone else in DMs he'd instantly figure out who I am but, this is correct: His world is collapsing around him and reality is making it harder and harder for him to believe the lies he's been telling himself for years.

He is desperately unhappy, usually he'll talk about himself at length whether it's about him, his politics, his games, or just random ranting about something but it's been tricky to get more than two or three word answers out of him and he'll frequently just drop out of conversations which is not normal for him in DM land, in DM land he's typically stoked to have someone to talk to and will babble on and on even if I stop responding.

This saga is definitely an all time low for Lucas because, unlike the LA saga, it's one he can't escape or be bailed out of.



In all honesty, if Lucas didn't have the, "I want to fuck underage girls/young girls" aspect to him, he'd be less of a cow and more just...really pitiable and a good show of a system that's in general failure when it comes to mental and general health care for the poor and homeless as well as a good example of what happens when someone doesn't have a good support system via family or friends.

But, Lucas wants to fuck teenagers and probably younger, so fuck him, he deserves everything bad that he gets.

How interesting. Lucas's world inescapably collapsing? Lucas lives in a nursing home, penniless and isolated. What does that collapse look like? Perhaps it's more of an internal calamity, and he is no longer able to explain his life to himself in a way that spares the humiliation and shame. Or is his mortal shell crumbling?

When it comes out, as it must, I'll have either the pleasure of a confirmed suspicion, or a surprise twist.

The choice to not even try to hold jobs, the choice to treat friends, family and strangers like shit, the choice to not take meds unless compelled, and most disastrously the choice to cling like a drowning man to the fantasy of a hot teenage wife-mommy and to broadcast that fantasy constantly in a series of visibly unhinged youtube videos. In the end he deserves everything he's getting, it's just vaguely chilling when he says shit with a double meaning like that.

There is something chilling about Wernology, isn't there? It's a bleak discipline. Lucas produces something darker and more sordid than cringe. He offers the spectacle of a pitiful creature that it is impossible to feel sorry for, an underdog that is simply despicable. Lucas triumphs over sympathy. It's interesting to have one's compassion centers stirred, and then totally shut down, isn't it?

As you marvelously put it, Lucas "cling like a drowning man to the fantasy of a hot teenage wife-mommy...[and broadcasts] that fantasy constantly in a series of visibly unhinged youtube videos." Like the frog prince, the touch of that Gen Z puss puss will turn him from a bumcel into Oliver Dangle. And yet, Lucas cannot seize the puss puss. This is his tragedy. This is why his tears do not produce compassion, but rather curiousity.

There's a performative aspect to his tears. Emotion tends to be persuasive, but the emotion that Lucas pours out is unconvincing and disagreeable. The angst he presents is genuine enough, because the fat faggot is miserable, but its in the shadow of his tard pedo fantasies. We are watching a man suffering because of his fantasies. Eaten alive by an appetite. He is in agony, because he is unable to fuck a smart pretty interesting girl, and thereby redeem his entire life with a sexual act. When Lucas cries out "I just can't find my girl" in his glorious video, his heart is breaking because he has not located a 16 year old sex goddess to fix his life for him with her body and social capital. He is lonely and broken, and believes that the transformative power of vagina will save him. The contrast between Lucas's real pain, and the ridiculous expectations of his fantay, is sublime. It says as much about human nature as great art does.

Lucas's sexual failure and suffering are art. Or at least I observe them as such.

Anyway, I don't like to think of Wernology in terms of Lucas "deserving" anything. It adds an unnecessary moral dimension. Lucas is not being punished for his wickedness, so much as dealing with the consequences of his disastrous choices. To the extent that Lucas's illness has warped his ability to make choices, or appreciate consequences, he is pitiful. To the extent he had many opportunities to do better, and did not, he is pathetic. But Lucas triumphs over sympathy. He's a villain in agony because of his inability to act on his villainous inclinations.

 

[Cnaiur urs Skiotha]

This is so well put, I remember thinking something similar to myself, like that moment of him saying "Why can't I let this go?", did he really mean it, and if any part of him did, why can't he dwell on that thought for a while?

But based on the performative quality of most of Lucas's crying screaming freak outs, (and I mean performative to a degree that's obvious to even the most casual viewer; in the video where he was insisting he was going to commit suicide tonight because no women care about him, there's a point, a half second before the video stops, where Lucas stops screaming and resume a normal facial expression and mien) and the reality that of course anyone who films themselves crying and freaking out is going to be accused of performing for the camera...but a moment where this trying so hard to seem sincere freak out suddenly stops, right as the camera shuts off... it's a little too much to be believable, even if we didn't already know that Lucas was someone who tries as hard as he can to be a manipulator, rarely succeeding.

Usually when you see someone sad and crying, no matter how much anger towards them that you're feeling, it gives you a moment of perspective, because no person who's not a sociopath likes to see someone else necessarily sad, but with lucas, his self-pity is almost as disgusting as his unearned smugness, because you can tell he really really feels so sorry for himself, and Lucas has none of this sympathy for anyone else, his own family included.

Yeah very good point about the performative aspect of his distress. As I said I think his sobs of "why can't I stop loving you" or whatever were rhetorical and fully delusional, part of some sort of self-narrative where he's a romantic underdog protagonist in love with, uh, nobody, with the concept of an "18" to 22 year old hottie. It was just some cliche line he was mouthing to seem like a martyr of love in a cruel world etc., and all of it is very performative. It merely happened to be said with the same words that, if asked sincerely and followed through with, would constitute actual introspection. No fucking way will that ever happen. Lucas' whole existence is trying not to touch the well of infinite pain and sadness inside of him.

The performative aspect of his madness in general is pretty interesting too, and something that doesn't get talked about enough imo. Like, why does Lucas film himself constantly? (When not confined in some type of loony bin that is.) If camera phones and Youtube didn't exist would he just be talking to himself anyway? Is it a compulsive need to vent his madness, is it for some form of attention, even if negative and parasocial? Does he actually think Zoomer baes will find his videos and watch them? All of the above?

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

Yeah very good point about the performative aspect of his distress. As I said I think his sobs of "why can't I stop loving you" or whatever were rhetorical and fully delusional, part of some sort of self-narrative where he's a romantic underdog protagonist in love with, uh, nobody, with the concept of an "18" to 22 year old hottie. It was just some cliche line he was mouthing to seem like a martyr of love in a cruel world etc., and all of it is very performative. It merely happened to be said with the same words that, if asked sincerely and followed through with, would constitute actual introspection. No fucking way will that ever happen. Lucas' whole existence is trying not to touch the well of infinite pain and sadness inside of him.

The performative aspect of his madness in general is pretty interesting too, and something that doesn't get talked about enough imo. Like, why does Lucas film himself constantly? (When not confined in some type of loony bin that is.) If camera phones and Youtube didn't exist would he just be talking to himself anyway? Is it a compulsive need to vent his madness, is it for some form of attention, even if negative and parasocial? Does he actually think Zoomer baes will find his videos and watch them? All of the above?

He absolutely uses the excuse of filming videos to justify a continuous narrative with himself. He has himself mentioned that people see him talking to himself, but he says it's just because he's bored, not that he's crazy. Yeah, right.

I was thinking...eventually someone, Skeletor or someone else, is going to interview Lucas again, and I'd like to put together, for posterity, a short list of the questions I want someone to ask Lucas, questions that I've had for a long time in most cases, and I guess I mentioned Skeletor because I see him as having the right mixture of a light touch with Lucas, but not letting Lucas get away with bullshit. Any additional questions, especially things that haven't been beaten to death already, would be appreciated:

1. The Voices on the Wind. Not a question so much as it is a request for someone to discuss the Voices on the Wind with Lucas, and not let him slip out of it by claiming that he was joking, or something of the sort.... As he had done with Goldaor. I think Skeletor would be great at this, assuming Skeletor is deep enough in the lore to understand what the Voices on the Wind are.

2. How does Lucas know someone's age and political affiliation by looking at them? Where did Lucas get the idea that blushing meant that someone was flirting with him? Again, not letting him slip away with non-answers or "I was kidding / I'm a comedian" BS. (Frankly, keeping Lucas as serious as possible, and on topic, goes for all of these questions).

3. Where did Lucas get the idea that it was a betrayal of socialist values, or Christian principles, for girls to not sleep with him? And don't let him get away with some generalized "Jesus said you're supposed to love everyone" crap, I want some sort of specific answer to this idea that he sees religion and politics as justifying sexual congress with a person of your choosing.

4. In a similar vein to number 3: Where does Lucas get the idea that God not immediately delivering a wish of a girlfriend in the flesh to him is some sort of reasonable proof of the lack of existence of god? Where in christianity, or any religion, does it say that God is required to instantly gratify wishes? We're not talking about a genie, Fatty!

So that's what I've got so far. As I said, I would be interested in hearing any questions that Lucas hasn't already answered, or proven himself unable to answer, like things about pedophilia, which clearly get him so riled up that no one's ever going to get a straight answer out of him.