Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

Someone posted a medical journal article that said the median life expectancy from diagnosis of diabetic renal failure was 7 months. The first we knew he was on dialysis was last August, if that's when he was diagnosed that makes his estimated expiry date next month. Looking at the state of him he's bang on time.
 
Someone posted a medical journal article that said the median life expectancy from diagnosis of diabetic renal failure was 7 months. The first we knew he was on dialysis was last August, if that's when he was diagnosed that makes his estimated expiry date next month. Looking at the state of him he's bang on time.
I wish it ain't so, my macabre curiosity wants to see how he deteriorates further
 
he wrote this at 4am this morning apparently
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Edit: in case you're curious, the videos are just a bunch of schizo scribbling for some new board game he's been sperging out about the past few weeks. i think this dick honking shit was just to get people to look at his page. I guess it worked? lol
 
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Someone posted a medical journal article that said the median life expectancy from diagnosis of diabetic renal failure was 7 months. The first we knew he was on dialysis was last August, if that's when he was diagnosed that makes his estimated expiry date next month. Looking at the state of him he's bang on time.
If he kicks the bucket this year, we should get Null to do a stream on him, think he’ll be interested?
 
If he kicks the bucket this year, we should get Null to do a stream on him, think he’ll be interested?
I think there’s enough material here, if we worked on a good summary and highlights maybe he would be interested. Null did say on the 10th anniversary stream he wasn’t really familiar with Lucas.
 
I think there’s enough material here, if we worked on a good summary and highlights maybe he would be interested. Null did say on the 10th anniversary stream he wasn’t really familiar with Lucas.
We could kill two birds with one stone if we got @Spunt to redo the OP (since the current OP seems pretty outdated), Spunt made the masterpiece that is the Lowtax OP/Obituary so I think he could do a good job with Lucas Werner’s.
 
His parents have to be notified by law

Not really. Not sure if you think that’s a legal requirement for all people or somehow just for him due to his mental illness, but no.

Were his death investigated by police, they notify next of kin for criminal reasons and if clearly not criminal, they do attempt to reach next of kin but they aren't required to contact his parents. They can do contact brother. Or one parent. Probably the easier to get ahold of so Roy. There is no law requiring police or coroner to notify parents or all family members. And if the police were made aware of a natural death by his guardian/payee, they could allow guardian to decide who is contacted and how and by whom.

In hospice or hospital, the hospital/nursing home is obligated and typically try to contact a next of kin but they don't have some legal requirement to succeed and can send you to a coroner to have them contact family. If someone were to really want to avoid the family finding out, they could actually pay ahead for their funeral expenses and make it part of their will and funeral contract and most funeral homes and hospices would comply (especially if that person refused to give info on their familv to be contacted).

In this case, lucas isn't going to do that so my guess is they will contact his payee/guardian and then that guardian would likely contact some next of kin. Could be Seth. Could be Roy. Not likely Myrna. She's out of country and they aren't required to notify all living next of kin.

So, while I agree we will find out, it's not because they are required by law to have Lucas's parents both be notified. And even if he made that a specific hospice request, it still wouldn't be required to notify mom and dad. I checked Washington state laws to confirm and both criminal code and medical practices have nothing more than next of kin notification efforts just to be sure it wasn’t a state difference from the medicolegal practices I am used to. (HIPAA allows hospital to contact next of kin even if deceased person requested no notification before death, but it doesn’t require it. And in my state, if someone has a power of attorney, that is the only notification made regardless of who they are to the decedent).

So if Roy or Seth decide Myrna can't handle it, they can keep it from her. And why not? She wouldn't know a difference.
 
Not really. Not sure if you think that’s a legal requirement for all people or somehow just for him due to his mental illness, but no.

Were his death investigated by police, they notify next of kin for criminal reasons and if clearly not criminal, they do attempt to reach next of kin but they aren't required to contact his parents. They can do contact brother. Or one parent. Probably the easier to get ahold of so Roy. There is no law requiring police or coroner to notify parents or all family members. And if the police were made aware of a natural death by his guardian/payee, they could allow guardian to decide who is contacted and how and by whom.

In hospice or hospital, the hospital/nursing home is obligated and typically try to contact a next of kin but they don't have some legal requirement to succeed and can send you to a coroner to have them contact family. If someone were to really want to avoid the family finding out, they could actually pay ahead for their funeral expenses and make it part of their will and funeral contract and most funeral homes and hospices would comply (especially if that person refused to give info on their familv to be contacted).

In this case, lucas isn't going to do that so my guess is they will contact his payee/guardian and then that guardian would likely contact some next of kin. Could be Seth. Could be Roy. Not likely Myrna. She's out of country and they aren't required to notify all living next of kin.

So, while I agree we will find out, it's not because they are required by law to have Lucas's parents both be notified. And even if he made that a specific hospice request, it still wouldn't be required to notify mom and dad. I checked Washington state laws to confirm and both criminal code and medical practices have nothing more than next of kin notification efforts just to be sure it wasn’t a state difference from the medicolegal practices I am used to. (HIPAA allows hospital to contact next of kin even if deceased person requested no notification before death, but it doesn’t require it. And in my state, if someone has a power of attorney, that is the only notification made regardless of who they are to the decedent).

So if Roy or Seth decide Myrna can't handle it, they can keep it from her. And why not? She wouldn't know a difference.
His Mom would want to know, so she could put a post on FB for ass pats and sympathy. But she wouldn't miss her bovine son. She is happy to be in Mexico far away from the fat cow. She would post something on FB like she was sad, but it would all be a facade. She would be glad the cow is gone.

There would be no funeral, no visitation, probably no obituary, and it is very likely none of Lucas's family would appear at the coroner to verify his corpse. Lucas would then be put in a pauper's grave.

Lucas's mom seems like a really shitty person, the more I see of her. I can't 100 percent blame her for writing off Lucas, but her fucking off to Mexico and being the basic boomer bitch that she is. I can see where Lucas got lots of his narcissism.
 
Too little, too late for ol' Luke. My last handful of patients presented similarly: bloated, essential tremor, vacant eyes, poor respiration - the makings of early death.

March is national kidney month. Some organizations, they let you do laps around a track to fund dialysis treatments for impoverished communities. Spokane would slap the collection cup out of your hand before sponsoring Luke.
 
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Not really. Not sure if you think that’s a legal requirement for all people or somehow just for him due to his mental illness, but no.

Were his death investigated by police, they notify next of kin for criminal reasons and if clearly not criminal, they do attempt to reach next of kin but they aren't required to contact his parents. They can do contact brother. Or one parent. Probably the easier to get ahold of so Roy. There is no law requiring police or coroner to notify parents or all family members. And if the police were made aware of a natural death by his guardian/payee, they could allow guardian to decide who is contacted and how and by whom.

In hospice or hospital, the hospital/nursing home is obligated and typically try to contact a next of kin but they don't have some legal requirement to succeed and can send you to a coroner to have them contact family. If someone were to really want to avoid the family finding out, they could actually pay ahead for their funeral expenses and make it part of their will and funeral contract and most funeral homes and hospices would comply (especially if that person refused to give info on their familv to be contacted).

In this case, lucas isn't going to do that so my guess is they will contact his payee/guardian and then that guardian would likely contact some next of kin. Could be Seth. Could be Roy. Not likely Myrna. She's out of country and they aren't required to notify all living next of kin.

So, while I agree we will find out, it's not because they are required by law to have Lucas's parents both be notified. And even if he made that a specific hospice request, it still wouldn't be required to notify mom and dad. I checked Washington state laws to confirm and both criminal code and medical practices have nothing more than next of kin notification efforts just to be sure it wasn’t a state difference from the medicolegal practices I am used to. (HIPAA allows hospital to contact next of kin even if deceased person requested no notification before death, but it doesn’t require it. And in my state, if someone has a power of attorney, that is the only notification made regardless of who they are to the decedent).

So if Roy or Seth decide Myrna can't handle it, they can keep it from her. And why not? She wouldn't know a difference.
Not true at all. When someone dies, legal next of kin must be notified by law. In lucas's case, as he has no wife or children, that is automatically his parents. Both parents. That is literally how next of kin is determined. If his parents were no longer alive it would become his next closest living relatives. It doesn't matter if one is 'out of the country' or not. That is what consulates are for. It has nothing to do with police investigating anything. and no you can't put it in your will that people aren't notified. Aside from the fact the next of kin must be notified by law, such a clause would be a pretty big violation of estate law as well. Not that lucas has anything in his estate but thats irrelevant. and no, you can't withhold that information from the next of kin at will. If you do that, you're risking all kinds of legal problems relating to requirements to inform and estate law violations. She's not a drooling, pants shitting dementia patient yet
 
Not true at all. When someone dies, legal next of kin must be notified by law. In lucas's case, as he has no wife or children, that is automatically his parents. Both parents. That is literally how next of kin is determined.
rather than argue with you and send you all the myriad documents describing what next of kin is and explaining what I already said, since you are saying quite fervently that it is definitely a law, just go ahead and provide any state’s legal statute that 1. Next of kin isnt brothers/sisters as well and 2. That both parents need to be notified.

Any link will to statute will do. Hate to think someone on the farms would have Lucas-level understanding of facts and opinions….
 
rather than argue with you and send you all the myriad documents describing what next of kin is and explaining what I already said, since you are saying quite fervently that it is definitely a law, just go ahead and provide any state’s legal statute that 1. Next of kin isnt brothers/sisters as well and 2. That both parents need to be notified.

Any link will to statute will do. Hate to think someone on the farms would have Lucas-level understanding of facts and opinions….
Are you always this ignorant and passive aggressive? How about you start talking sense instead of making absurd claims. Lucas has no wife and no children. That automatically makes his parents his next of kin. If they were no longer alive when he died his next of kin becomes his next closest living relatives. In this case that is his brothers

Here is a list of the order in which next of kin is determined by law. Its at the top

Next of kin must be notified of a persons death as long as there are living next of kin. Both for the obvious notification the person has died and everything that comes with that, and for estate related purposes. In this case that is his parents. They are both his next of kin, they must both be notified, as persons entitled to letters. Not for the least of which reasons being the legal problems that would result if notice was withheld and that parent disputed the disposition of his remains and anything related to that, or thought something was suspicious about the situation and wanted an investigation of some kind conducted. There is also the fact that in the absence of a will lucas's administration of lucas's estate would be his parents. Either one or both would serve as joint executors. Not that there is anything in said estate to deal with beyond his few personal belongings and body but there is legally more to an estate than just distributing property, taxes and seeing to the disposition of a persons remains. Both have the right to dispute who becomes said executor or whether its a joint situation. In other words, there are multiple reasons why they have to be notified of his death
 
MFW my post starts a discussion with two fellow retards arguing about next of kin death notification and both of them know more about it than I do.

I could give two shits if his parents are notified, I only care about the thread getting notified. Now one of you is going to have to visit Lucas and put a beeper or something on him so we'll at least know when he kicks the bucket.
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I could give two shits of his parents are notified, I only care about the thread getting notified. Now one of you is going to have to visit Lucas and put a beeper or something on him so we'll at least know when he kicks the bucket.
We will probably find out about his unattended death when the EPA lists his hobo apartment as a superfund site.
 
Here is a list of the order in which next of kin is determined by law. Its at the top
It says nothing about who is required to notify about it. This is the legal procedure for intestate succession if the decedent left heirs. Homeless people rarely even have heirs.
I could give two shits of his parents are notified, I only care about the thread getting notified. Now one of you is going to have to visit Lucas and put a beeper or something on him so we'll at least know when he kicks the bucket.
Hospitals, police, a coroner, or whatever government authority first takes custody of a dead body generally make at least a good faith effort to locate next of kin, but they are under no obligation to move heaven and earth to find people who may not even exist.

I don't Lucas's next of kin will be that difficult to locate.
 
I don't Lucas's next of kin will be that difficult to locate.
I hope they use the OP of this thread to locate his family. But if I remember correctly that shouldn’t be necessary at all, I’m pretty sure Myrna had him committed at least one of the times since the Starbuck’s incident
 
I hope they use the OP of this thread to locate his family. But if I remember correctly that shouldn’t be necessary at all, I’m pretty sure Myrna had him committed at least one of the times since the Starbuck’s incident
he's well known locally to both hospital systems and police, family will be notified (they're listed as emergency contacts on paperwork for admission and arrest here)

if he shows up on my table I'll risk it all for the thread.
 
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