Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

[Man vs persistent rat]

I thought your useful observations cancelled out your fucking gay KF bitching, but you appear unable to resist passive-aggressive responses to everything. If you don't like it here, kindly fuck off you useless faggot.

 

[DeletedSoul]

My observation is that since that chick commented with the 'insider info' on Lucas's status with his handlers, the admins at SOFALAW are doing damage control. They're hanging a few people out to dry and laying down the law to try and distance themselves from risky Lucas activities. They're concerned their group will get implicated in any serious occurrence resulting from Lucas's delirium.

Kicking out one of their more prominent spergs, whom actually sounded like he was acting independently, is a feeble attempt at achieving this. Do the owners of SOFALAW consider that any of the following really haven't had any effect on Lucas's mental state?

• The girl known as 'Dream Chaser', whose identity isn't difficult to figure out if you look closely at the profile of one of the people regularly sharing them on the group. Her videos border on psychological torture and prey on his insecurities. Impressive work in my opinion.
• The Chris Hansen video. Not only was this crowd-funded by SOFALAW, provoked a severe episode of paranoia for Lucas and got a total carte blanche from the admins, but I would love to see what Chris Hansen would think of being impersonated with the sole purpose of harassing a mentally ill man.
• The financial exploitation, which has been covered.
• Lastly, the fact that a huge source of information on Lucas's shenanigans shared on the Farms cones from SOFALAW archivists who tirelessly lurk on his closed profiles. This is shared in an open forum which no doubt causes poor Lukey a great deal of distress and embarrassment.

This has all been tolerated up until recently, but now the boss of the group (who himself made a video taunting Lucas) is laying down the law and scapegoating his less favourite spergs. Realistically, if the shit really hit the fan.. and oh boy I hope it does.. and there's some kind of massive inquest, I think the financial exploitation and long-term spying on the part of the artist will draw the most scrutiny. This begs the question as to why she hasn't been thrown out. Is she an admin? Does the head admin think he'll get some bespoke hentai sent if he defends her on the Farms? Someone please provide deets.

I am delighted with this turn of events and will watch it continue with great amusement.

This is one of the most delusional posts I've seen on this forum in a long time.

The Chris Hansen video was made by Hansen himself, and paid for by one member of SOFALAW.

I put a moratorium on harassing Lucas (not interacting with him entirely, just the constant "fuck you, you're shit" messages he was getting) after I saw evidence that it was having a noticable impact on his paranoia and delusions.

You keep insisting that what the artist did was illegal, but you clearly know nothing about law or ethics. He asked her to do art, he paid for the art, she provided the art. She needed the money, he was clearly determined to waste it somehow, so she did the commission. I'd rather the money go to her than to someone who wouldn't put the work she did into the art she made for him.

I thought your useful observations cancelled out your fucking gay KF bitching, but you appear unable to resist passive-aggressive responses to everything. If you don't like it here, kindly fuck off you useless faggot.

All I'm saying is that it's hypocritical as fuck to bitch about SOFALAW'S existence on a site like Kiwi Farms.

This isn't judgment on KF itself, just a judgment on those who are determined ti be mad at SOFALAW.

 

[BowlOfDick]

All I'm saying is that it's hypocritical as fuck to bitch about SOFALAW'S existence on a site like Kiwi Farms.

This isn't judgment on KF itself, just a judgment on those who are determined ti be mad at SOFALAW.

It's not that we disagree with what you lot do.. it's the fact that you're so self righteous in doing so good sir. I for one am grateful for the lulz produced by SOFALAW, but that doesn't mean I don't think you're all sperg losers, particularly when you pretend to actually care for his welfare.

So when you posted the video directly addressing Lucas during one of his worse manic episodes in mid November, you were doing so with the benefit of his mental health at heart?

 

[DeletedSoul]

It's not that we disagree with what you lot do.. it's the fact that you're so self righteous in doing so good sir. I for one am grateful for the lulz produced by SOFALAW, but that doesn't mean I don't think you're all sperg losers, particularly when you pretend to actually care for his welfare.

So when you posted the video directly addressing Lucas during one of his worse manic episodes in mid November, you were doing so with the benefit of his mental health at heart?

The video was posted before I saw what the harassment was doing to him. If I'd known beforehand I probably wouldn't have done it. I originally planned to make more videos but nixed those plans after I saw what was going on.

Also, to be clear, I don't give a fuck how Lucas feels for the sake of it. I just don't want him hurting anyone else. He's an irredeemable shitstain on humanity, but no one deserves to be hurt by him.

 

[mothman96]

I've been wondering about what "supposedly" the anti-Lucas comments, videos etc. are doing to the insane pedo. Lucas is still doing what he does on social media. After it came out and was posted here that he was reported to the college , his handlers etc. etc, it didn't faze him. In one of his videos he practically gloated he could say/do whatever he wanted on his social media and get away with it.

 

[DeletedSoul]

I've been wondering about what "supposedly" the anti-Lucas comments, videos etc. are doing to the insane pedo. Lucas is still doing what he does on social media. After it came out and was posted here that he was reported to the college , his handlers etc. etc, it didn't faze him. In one of his videos he practically gloated he could say/do whatever he wanted on his social media and get away with it.

We had personal messages from Lucas that demonstrated some severe paranoia and isolation and indications that he was badly hallucinating. It gave me concerns he could lash out.

Could have been an overblown fear, but I've been low-key not comfortable with the level of direct harassment he's received for a while, so it didn't hurt in my mind to try to curb it, at least from SOFALAW's end. Yes, I'm aware I contributed to it. That's my mistake.

 

[Man vs persistent rat]

Most cows have a problem with their dirty laundry being aired in public, but eventually learn to compartmentalise. The ones who get actively fucked with tend to learn how to deal with it, eg. Chris Chan, and stop being interesting to the w.eens. Lucas might be an exception to the rule due to his severity of issues, and I think his escalation has a lot to do with people directly engaging him. Most of his YT videos come across as direct replies to various people and incidents that we either know or potentially don't know about.

 

[WonderWino]

The big thing you're missing in this fucking wall of text is that I created SOFALAW as a joke, and it's stunningly ironic that people are bitching about it on a site like this.

There is an old saying that jokes are only statements in disguise. It may have been started as a joke but its clearly moved beyond that to the point of becoming more personal than you're willing or able to admit. KF may run along similar lines to a point, but it is a site directed at spergy people in general, its not aimed at any specific person, nor does it make a point of being such even with the kinds of people that are highlighted here. But more to the point there actually is a hands off policy that is actually enforced here, the same cannot be said of SOFALAW. In fact I would argue that by its very concept of being specifically aimed at lucas that such a policy is counter intuitive to SOFALAW existing. Its personal against him by definition, even if that wasn't the original intent - and it certainly is personal by intent by several of its members

The Chris Hansen video was made by Hansen himself, and paid for by one member of SOFALAW.

Your point being....? The key phrase there is 'was paid for by one member of SOFALAW.' Whether it was crowdfunded or not it was still a member of that group not only going out of their way to arrange it, but paying for it and getting literally the best known pedo hunter on the internet to make a video explicitly about lucas. That violates any rule about getting involved or provoking anybody by a rather significant amount, and it was tolerated and by extension encouraged by the group, and thus by you. Now don't get me wrong, it was funny as hell and i'm not saying he isn't a pedo or didn't have it coming, but it is hardly ethical and I could see something like that setting him off in a big way. That aside, his family, if they actually gave a shit, could have made a big incident out of that and caused everyone involved potential legal problems, given the nature of the implications of the video

I put a moratorium on harassing Lucas (not interacting with him entirely, just the constant "fuck you, you're shit" messages he was getting) after I saw evidence that it was having a noticable impact on his paranoia and delusions.

That doesn't appear to be doing very much good, and you let it slide for a long time. That aside... you needed to see evidence that it was impacting his paranoia and delusions? Really? I would think that common sense would tell you that such actions would have a pretty negative effect on both, especially for someone like lucas

You keep insisting that what the artist did was illegal, but you clearly know nothing about law or ethics

No, several people have said its of questionable legality, not necessarily illegal. and it is. One could argue that taking a large sum of money to knowingly feed into a mentally impaired persons delusions - especially knowing what the end goal of it was, is of questionable legality. There is a real fine line in there between offering a paid service and doing so in a manner that doesn't come off as exploitative or promoting that delusion (which in many places is considered a form of abuse in itself) Not to mention that $1000 is frequently the magic number at which point certain forms of financial exploitation become felonies in many places instead of misdemeanors. As for ethics, I know all about the ethics of doing contract work, i've done it for years. I don't feed into such behavior to make money, nor take money from someone to provided services I know will be pointless and inevitably not achieve their intended result. I could do so in a legal manner, but it would hardly be ethical

He asked her to do art, he paid for the art, she provided the art. She needed the money, he was clearly determined to waste it somehow, so she did the commission.

He asked her because she sought him out deliberately, as far as i'm aware, and not just for the purposes of making money off her artwork. Hence the reason she is involved with SOFALAW at all. She also know he was wasting his money and took the commission anyway. See above for why thats questionably in legality given his mental state and as for ethics, there is nothing ethical about doing that

The video was posted before I saw what the harassment was doing to him. If I'd known beforehand I probably wouldn't have done it. I originally planned to make more videos but nixed those plans after I saw what was going on.

Again, common sense should tell you that doing such things are going to have such an effect on him. If you didn't know you should have

Also, to be clear, I don't give a fuck how Lucas feels for the sake of it. I just don't want him hurting anyone else. He's an irredeemable shitstain on humanity, but no one deserves to be hurt by him.

Nor do I, but if you don't want him harming anyone, directly provoking him or enabling others to so isn't a good way to go about preventing that outcome. All it does is make it more likely. If and when he inevitably does something to get himself locked up in jail or the nuthouse indefinitely, it should be because he made that choice himself, not because he was goaded into it, directly or indirectly. If he is, then it could have been prevented and whoever is involved in it is just as guilty as lucas is for whatever harm comes to the victim. Perhaps more so by virtue of the fact that they should know better

My observation is that since that chick commented with the 'insider info' on Lucas's status with his handlers, the admins at SOFALAW are doing damage control. They're hanging a few people out to dry and laying down the law to try and distance themselves from risky Lucas activities. They're concerned their group will get implicated in any serious occurrence resulting from Lucas's delirium.

I have to agree, its definitely coming off that way

The girl known as 'Dream Chaser', whose identity isn't difficult to figure out if you look closely at the profile of one of the people regularly sharing them on the group. Her videos border on psychological torture and prey on his insecurities. Impressive work in my opinion.

Indeed. Shes not being very smart about hiding who she is by any means, and if lucas figures that out I can see it backfiring on her. That aside, i've had a few interactions with her myself, asking whether she is getting a bit out of hand with the constant videos about it, I mean how long does that have to go on before it comes off as obsessive and vindictive right. Funny how those comments (and alot of others i've noticed) constantly get deleted. I'm not sure what her issue is with lucas, but it comes off as a personal thing. I'm starting to wonder if shes not a bit of a nutcase herself and wouldn't be at all surprised to see it turn into a back and forth sperg fight between the two at some point

 

[BowlOfDick]

We had personal messages from Lucas that demonstrated some severe paranoia and isolation and indications that he was badly hallucinating. It gave me concerns he could lash out.

Could have been an overblown fear, but I've been low-key not comfortable with the level of direct harassment he's received for a while, so it didn't hurt in my mind to try to curb it, at least from SOFALAW's end. Yes, I'm aware I contributed to it. That's my mistake.

Not buying it.

As you stated earlier sir, you made the group 'as a joke' ("Haha I have autism!!") many years ago. You of all people would have noticed the typical trends of Lucas's fluctuating psyche over such a long duration of time. He was hitting the peak of one of his manic episodes days before you published that video. Months before, he was claiming to have Farms people and SOFALAW types in his immediate vicinity who were stalking him. He was randomly shouting about 'oligarchs' as some kind of verbal tic at the time you posted the video, yet it was only after the video that you thought it would cause harm to his mental state?

You hit the man while he was down, which was delightful sport to watch.. but the are you seriously thinking you've handled this situation ethically? My dear friend... just come clean and admit that you're a cunt. We're all cunts here, but you're an interfering cunt. There's no shame in admitting that. Just be yourself man!

 

[wenttobermuda]

Far be it from me to censor my fellow spergs, but the battle between Sofalaw and Kiwi Farms isn't nearly as interesting as Lucas' antics. Nearly as cringe inducing, though.

Lucas provides plenty of fine content without provocation. Granted, some interesting stuff has come from catfishing, like his entire sojourn in Spokane. Yet harassing or exploiting the poor fool is bad form. Forced lolmilk snd tard cum are sour. I know there's someone out there, right now, that aspires to be Lucas' Blue Spike or Idea Guy. Fuck them.

Going back through this monster of a thread, one recurrent theme is Lucas' amazing ability to make an ass of himself, on his own. Enjoy the ride.

Edit to add: The practice of lurking on his private accounts and sharing info is a valuable service provided by Sofalaw, and standard for lolcow observation. Doesn't rise to the level of artificially producing content.

 

[DeletedSoul]

Not buying it.

As you stated earlier sir, you made the group 'as a joke' ("Haha I have autism!!") many years ago. You of all people would have noticed the typical trends of Lucas's fluctuating psyche over such a long duration of time. He was hitting the peak of one of his manic episodes days before you published that video. Months before, he was claiming to have Farms people and SOFALAW types in his immediate vicinity who were stalking him. He was randomly shouting about 'oligarchs' as some kind of verbal tic at the time you posted the video, yet it was only after the video that you thought it would cause harm to his mental state?

You hit the man while he was down, which was delightful sport to watch.. but the are you seriously thinking you've handled this situation ethically? My dear friend... just come clean and admit that you're a cunt. We're all cunts here, but you're an interfering cunt. There's no shame in admitting that. Just be yourself man!

Yeah, I mean, I am a cunt.

The group still exists for two reasons:

1) Lucas is a never-ending train crash to watch.

2) the group's become a weird but fun little community with a lot of good people who are friendly with each other.

That's one of the reasons I enforce rules regarding good manners, racial slurs, etc. I try to make sure everyone's welcome, as long as they're not assholes to each other.

Ethically? Yeah, SOFALAW is probably a mess. I still don't see anything necessarily wrong with a literal starving artist giving Lucas art for money, but that's my point of view.

But if all you want is for me to say I'm a cunt, that's fine, I agree.

 

[A Big Bumbling Black Man]

That's one of the reasons I enforce rules regarding good manners, racial slurs, etc

Calm down, nigger. Nobody likes moral puritans, especially in a community designed for and by trolls.

 

[Disgusting]

Yea.. that Australian slut who solicited her shitty art to Lucas for a very questionable fee of $1000?

.. she's disgusting.

 

[Bassomatic]

This autism is pretty awful desu.

It's ok to laugh at Lucas who talks about molesting kids and uses same words we do common slang in many circles.

But don't say the N word guys.

I'll go out on a limb here and remind everyone we all agree on one thing Lucas is just awful and often funny.

Soflaw has their hands dirtier with sin than we do it's not a contest just a statement.

Who knows maybe they just can't enjoy the net the right way, deleted soul could be a guy or girl who saves puppies or reads to blind people and same is true for most members of both group.

Some people have poor net behavior or restraints while being fine in person and you got Lucas types who's just all out filthy as a human in all regards.

I put an olive branch out because this sperging is gay. But since we take pride in being chaotic evil, it might have been in my ass. Are you brave enough to take it?

 

[AbraCadaver]

This is one of the most delusional posts I've seen on this forum in a long time.

The Chris Hansen video was made by Hansen himself, and paid for by one member of SOFALAW.

I put a moratorium on harassing Lucas (not interacting with him entirely, just the constant "fuck you, you're shit" messages he was getting) after I saw evidence that it was having a noticable impact on his paranoia and delusions.

You keep insisting that what the artist did was illegal, but you clearly know nothing about law or ethics. He asked her to do art, he paid for the art, she provided the art. She needed the money, he was clearly determined to waste it somehow, so she did the commission. I'd rather the money go to her than to someone who wouldn't put the work she did into the art she made for him.

Mate fuck this, I’m an artist and I would never take a commission from a man I KNEW was mentally ill and living in a pathetic low-income situation. No fellow artist I know would, especially not the sums she accepted. Boo hoo she needed money, I’ve been skint before and still turned down dubious work like this. It isn’t illegal, it’s just morally gross. It’s like selling another pint to a man you know is past his limit and thinking about driving home. Sure, it’s legal, but you’re still a bastard.

 

[wenttobermuda]

I put an olive branch out because this sperging is gay. But since we take pride in being chaotic evil, it might have been in my ass. Are you brave enough to take it?

Neutral Evil, fool.

100% the olive branch was in your butt. Doesn't make it any less meaningful a gesture.

 

[WonderWino]

So..... Now he is starting to bring up 'what elliot rodger could have done instead of violence'

....and then says absolutely nothing about either of those things and goes on about how its bad women who have boyfriends supposedly talk to him and gets pissed off at women again

The irony in the video title is amusing considering he is sure showing an incel hatred of women

 

[DongJohnson]

This Kiwi/SOFALAW turf war is getting old. Is there any new Lucas content?

Edit: typo

 

[Rogowski]

Don't forget that about a month or two ago a group of SOFALAW regulars started a group chat and added Lucas to it so they could confront him about his pedophilic tendencies and cause him to rage. I didn't share any of the screenies with ya'll because I didn't want to blow up their spot. This was how he became aware of the Chris Hansen paid video (the script was also crowd sourced in the group) among other things he's been raging about in his videos.

they also do the same thing to another guy named Thomas Murray, another FB lolcow who's a gay, Trump supporting pedophile. They have a different group chat and FB group for him and at one point they had them both in the same group chat to pit them against each other.

ETA: 500 PAGES YALL WE DID IT


ETAA:

I would love to see what Chris Hansen would think of being impersonated with the sole purpose of harassing a mentally ill man.

That wasn’t an impersonation you can pay Chris Hansen $50 to make a personalized video and while he isn’t being impersonated he’s being inserted into a situation that could escalate greatly and he has no idea.

 

[Da Dude123]

That artist girl who talks to Lucas, exploited him, for sure. Sure, she gave him art for his terrible board games that no one will ever buy. She knows what a trainwreck Lucas is and how ridiculous his board games are. He doesn't even know how to play them. $1000 is a lot of money to most people. Even people who have a decent job, would think hard about dropping $1000 on anything. For a sped like Lucas who lives on donations and welfare, that is a shit ton amount of cash. That was out of a student loan he will never, ever pay back.

There was something a ways back showing that even she was a bit ashamed at giving her art to such ridiculous bullshit such as Lucas's games. I get that if not her, someone else would have got his money. We all know the saying about a fool and his money, they are soon parted. That could not be more true with Lucas, but still that is definitely ethically iffy.