Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

[Wernology]

.....wait what? is lucas really so delusional that he expects people to believe those sound clips are fake? its his voice. anybody can literally point to the full videos he himself posted that they were taken from with visual and auditory proof that it is him. Its not something anybody could remotely bs their way out of successfully

even for lucas thats a stupid claim for him to make

Seems like he's morphing into, dare I say it, a flatbill Republican. Straight up lying and thinking screaming about life being unfair and everyone hating him will make it more believable.

 

[WhiskerBiscuit]

.....wait what? is lucas really so delusional that he expects people to believe those sound clips are fake? its his voice. anybody can literally point to the full videos he himself posted that they were taken from with visual and auditory proof that it is him. Its not something anybody could remotely bs their way out of successfully

even for lucas thats a stupid claim for him to make

I think you’re misunderstanding.

lucas is the one screaming. The video uploader is the person who is trying to trigger Lucas and accusing Lucas of being someone else or a hacked account.

lucas is the left hand text.
Poop toucher is on right.

eta: my assumption is that at 2am when the text convo happened, Lucas was too manic to text responses and instead just sent audio responses.

 

[Junkail]

While marveling at Lucas's degeneration, and waiting for his inevitable involuntary confinement, it may be interesting to return to the events of 2017. Lucas spent almost the entire year as a patient at Eastern State Hospital, serving two nearly consecutive periods of confinement. The circumstances surrounding his hospitalization, and the unusual length of his stay, provide context for Lucas's current misbehavior and illuminate one of the darker questions of Wernology: how fucked up is Lucas Colby Werner?

TLDR: all the way fucked up.

Spoiler: Fuck Lucas

Spoiler: Nearly a year

Lucas emerged from obscurity in January, 2017. and became famous for sexually harassing teenage girls. Many Wernologists were created by stories like this:

Lucas Werner, 37, ejected from Spokane Starbucks after asking teenage barista for a date

A 37-year-old Spokane man is claiming age discrimination after he was barred from a Spokane Starbucks after asking a teenage barista on a date.

www.spokesman.com

Over night, complete strangers became acquainted with Lucas's obsession with teen poonaner, and the baffling "scientific" justifications he offered for his lusts. Many graybeards and flatbills were introduced to "telomeres" for the first time. Lucas was, of course, widely mocked and studied.

After coming to the public's attention, Lucas's world began to rapidly contract in February of 2017. Being famous for being a creep proved stressful. Lucas's social media went fallow, leading to speculation that he was dick tucking in the face of public scrutiny. Following his Starbucks ban Lucas was, in rapid succession, banned from the Spokane library and its grounds, at least two other coffee shops, multiple downtown restaurants, and the local Greyhound/Amtrak station. In each instance, Lucas's ban was attributed to harassment. It was reported that Lucas was carpeting Spokane with his notorious love notes, and even directly confronting the patrons of the establishments he haunted. In brief, he continued the behavior that earned him his notoriety and Starbucks ban, and spread it out over Spokane.

Lucas was creepy and aggressive.

By the end of February, 2017, Werner was noticeably absent from social media, and the streets of Spokane, fueling speculation that he had been hospitalized or jailed. How Lucas at last came to the attention of the authorities is unknown, and the subject of much speculation. While the specific instance that lead to his confinement are unknown, the the most popular theory is: sexual harassment.

On April 4, 2017, Lucas's detested older half-brother confirmed in a Facebook post that Lucas had indeed been hospitalized, and was scheduled for release in July of 2017.

After a hospital stay of approximately 5.5 months, a heavier, slower Lucas emerged from Eastern State Hospital in early July 2017 and took up residence in a halfway house. Within 48 hours of his release, Lucas announced his return by declaring that he would pay a "very legal 16-25 year old woman" $1,000 for a dinner date at Churchill's. Apparently having learned nothing in his time away, he lost no time sexually targeting teens again. Lucas would later withdraw the offer, and be banned from Churchill's, but Lucas's menacing lust for teen poonaner made the news again:

Man ejected from downtown Spokane Starbucks last year withdraws $1,000 offer for date

Lucas Werner, the 37-year-old Spokane man who made

www.spokesman.com

At about this time, Lucas cryptically announced that he'd lost his new housing due to "haters." It was reported that Lucas had violated the conditions of his release from the hospital, and tenancy at the halfway house, due to his social media posts about teen poonaner, and sharing the address of the halfway house in an attempt to attract teen visitors.

By July 20th, after barely a week out of the hospital, Lucas's social media went silent again and he was reported to have returned to Eastern State Hospital. Once again, the final details of his hospitalization, and what role his family may have had to play, are unknown.

On January 22, Lucas was released from the hospital a second time, even fatter and more disoriented than before. He picked up just where he left off, and immediately returned to Facebook to solicit dinner dates and evangelize his telomere "research."

Lucas was essentially hospitalized for an entire year, but for a brief week long period of liberty that he demonstrated he was not prepared for. In each instance, his hospitalization was preceded by media attention. Lucas would post something ghastly to social media, it would be reported to a suddenly interested public, and in the ensuing scrutiny and stress Lucas was committed. His menacing behavior was impossible to ignore, and so there were consequences.

The world would rather not deal with Lucas Colby Werner. There is no helping him. After decades of support and treatment, he remains at best, a hopeless ward of the welfare state with a payee and no ability to care for himself; at worst, he is an aspiring rapist. But as of July, 2020, Lucas is once again growing difficult to ignore. He has taken to Instagram to share videos of himself raging and shouting at the top of his lungs in the streets of Spokane, and public areas of the homeless shelter he haunts. @klickitat, noted Wernologist and archivist, has exhaustively documented this behavior. As Lucas grows more unstable and angry, and his behavior rapidly deteriorates, many Wernologists speculate that it is only a matter of time before he returns to Eastern State Hospital. He seems to be returning to the behaviors of 2017.

It must be stressed that, aside from 2017, Lucas has been committed several other times. Moreover, the duration of his hospitalization is extremely unusual. The following summary of applicable Washington laws demonstrate's how extraordinary Lucas's confinement was.

Spoiler: That's a long time

The following are the rules for involuntary civil commitment applicable in Lucas's case.

Grounds for Commitment: Washington law recognizes three grounds for involuntary civil commitment: 1) likelihood of serious harm to others; 2) likelihood of serious harm to self; or 3) grave disability, defined as a condition in which a person, as a result of a mental disorder (a) is in danger of serious physical harm resulting from a failure to provide for his or her essential human needs of health or safety, or (b) manifests severe deterioration in routine functioning evidenced by repeated and escalating loss of cognitive or volitional control over his or her actions.

It is not known which grounds Lucas was committed under. He certainly behaved threateningly to young women. He has a history of threatening suicide if girls won't date him. Lastly, he has plainly demonstrated that he is unable to function as an adult or care for himself. Due to the uncertainty of the grounds for his confinement, much attention has been paid to the mysterious period immediately before his hospitalization. In the absence of direct, specific threats towards individual girls, many assume that Lucas was found to be gravely disabled.

Detention: Commitment can begin under the authority of a Designated Mental Health Professional for up to 72 hours without a court order. The legal standard for the initial detention is probable cause. If the patient is not ready for release within the 72 hours, a petition for involuntary treatment is filed seeking detention for up to 14 days. If the patient requires treatment beyond 14 days, then a petition seeking detention for up to 90, and then 180 days may be filed. Each petition calls for a contested legal hearing, essentially a jury trial, and the standard of evidence escalates with each petition. In other words, the rights of the patient are heavily protected, and continued confinement has a high standard.
Also, it is possible to detain a patient for no more than 287 consecutive days. If enough time passes, the patient may exhaust this mechanism for detention, regardless of their health.

All evidence suggests that Lucas was released from confinement in 2018 because he exhausted the system, not because the grounds justifying his confinement no longer applied.

From the timeline, it is clear that in each instance Lucas's care team petitioned for Lucas's confinement to be continued as long as possible, even he wasn't held for the entire final 180 day period. To what extent Lucas contested this is unclear. But it must be emphasized that in one year, Lucas's detention was continued 6 times after contested hearings with a high standard of evidence.

His doctors knew how sick he is. A judge, too.

Wernologists may draw many conclusions from the foregoing. I believe that the grounds that lead to Lucas's loss of 2017 still exist. His continued liberty is largely a matter people not paying attention. So long as Lucas is permitted to scream on street corners, he will. And Spokane seems content to let him act out, to a point. But if he begins to be banned from Spokane locations, again, targets individual girls, again, and makes the news, again, the public will notice and Lucas will take a break.

The hospitalization will do no good. It will be as lengthy as it is pointless. Lucas will have another 6 or so months off the street, which will deprive us of marvelous content.

But don't worry. As soon as he gets out, he'll pick up just where he left off, which in this case is screaming "I HATE YOU! WHERE THE WOMEN AT?"

He appears to have no hobbies other than finding a woman. In the hypothetical scenario where he gets together with someone, does it mean he will then no longer have any purpose in life?

 

[mothman96]

I think you’re misunderstanding.

lucas is the one screaming. The video uploader is the person who is trying to trigger Lucas and accusing Lucas of being someone else or a hacked account.

lucas is the left hand text.
Poop toucher is on right.

eta: my assumption is that at 2am when the text convo happened, Lucas was too manic to text responses and instead just sent audio responses.

Wait the convo happened at 2am. He went psycho spitting fire in the middle of the night at the HOC. There had to be other homeless men waking up and staff wondering what the hell was going on with the Freak blowing his fuse.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

Wait the convo happened at 2am. He went psycho spitting fire in the middle of the night at the HOC. There had to be other homeless men waking up and staff wondering what the hell was going on with the Freak blowing his fuse.

Okay I don't understand what happened here like at all, at first I thought it was somebody pretending to be Lucas using sound clips to convince someone else, but from the above comments it seems like people are saying someone was interacting with Lucas. So can someone please explain this for the stupid and the technologically deficient in a simple way? Thanks

 

[WonderWino]

Okay I don't understand what happened here like at all, at first I thought it was somebody pretending to be Lucas using sound clips to convince someone else, but from the above comments it seems like people are saying someone was interacting with Lucas. So can someone please explain this for the stupid and the technologically deficient in a simple way? Thanks

My understanding of the situation was that someone confronted lucas with sound clips of him losing his shit to see lucas's reaction and show how unhinged he is getting and lucas lied and claimed that said person faked the clips or bought them or whatever and that it wasn't actually him because he knows how insane it makes him look

 

[WhiskerBiscuit]

Okay I don't understand what happened here like at all, at first I thought it was somebody pretending to be Lucas using sound clips to convince someone else, but from the above comments it seems like people are saying someone was interacting with Lucas. So can someone please explain this for the stupid and the technologically deficient in a simple way? Thanks

If you look at the beginning of the video it’s a FB messenger chat with “Lucas Werner.” The clips are clearly Lucas. He says the date and responds to the texts. So it’s the real Lucas.

I’m guessing he was kicked out of HOC and is sleeping in the woods.

The person who made the video seems to be from SOFALAW or maybe here as there was lots of discussion of Lucas being kicked out of HoC and the comment says “we are concerned.”

The video was not uploaded by Lucas so I don’t understand why people would think Lucas is the Right-hand text.

eta: it’s Lucas’s Current fb profile pic in the video.

 

[mothman96]

If you look at the beginning of the video it’s a FB messenger chat with “Lucas Werner.” The clips are clearly Lucas. He says the date and responds to the texts. So it’s the real Lucas.

I’m guessing he was kicked out of HOC and is sleeping in the woods.

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I think @Nobleman said he has access to the roster of the homeless that sleep at HOC. He'd be able to let us know if the Freak is still at HOC.

ETA:
In the video at the 0:49 mark, "gay4Yeshua" shows up in the upper left corner. Is that someone who was part of the chat?

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

So the sound Clips are Lucas? But why would he reply with sound clips? That's just seem so much more time-consuming and tedious than a few words in a text

 

[redbarchetta]

Wouldn't the timestamp be the timezone of the weenie interacting with Lucas? I don't think it's a true indicator that this was 2 AM for Lucas too.

 

[Particle Bored]

Wouldn't the timestamp be the timezone of the weenie interacting with Lucas? I don't think it's a true indicator that this was 2 AM for Lucas too.

So either a Euro/Asiafag, or he got booted from HOC (or just not there for the night), because 2am anywhere in the states would be after check in at HOC, and the reverb in the clips sound like he's outside.

Eta: but he has another vid on his channel called 'opening a can of beans'... So its in english (title is, no voice in vid), but he doesnt call it a 'tin' of beans, so not a Brit. So I lean toward fatty not being at HOC for the night for whatever reason. Mysteeeeerious.

 

[SpiceyHuman]

So the sound Clips are Lucas? But why would he reply with sound clips? That's just seem so much more time-consuming and tedious than a few words in a text

This is actually pretty standard for Lucas. Even when calm he will sometimes do the sound clips

 

[WhiskerBiscuit]

This is actually pretty standard for Lucas. Even when calm he will sometimes do the sound clips

I came here to say this


also, I feel like the spokesman for technology but the response alert was not related. That was for another comment. There was not anyone else on chat with Lucas or it would say in the top area.

as for TimeZone, that’s true. It could have been another time for Lucas.

 

[teleméres69]

Man homeless Lucas truly is the best saga. Whoever claimed Lucas being at Pioneer was good for content clearly had no idea the gems he'd put out in the streets. I'm curious how he'll adapt when Spokane is properly open again. I hope he keeps screaming when the streets are crowded again

 

[BrightGold]

I came here to say this


also, I feel like the spokesman for technology but the response alert was not related. That was for another comment. There was not anyone else on chat with Lucas or it would say in the top area.

as for TimeZone, that’s true. It could have been another time for Lucas.

Yup, wanted to second this and put it and what some others have said into a breakdown:

This is a screen recording of someone's Facebook Messenger chat with (someone who seems to be) Lucas. Its structure is pretty clearly organized like any other text/FB messenger chain - the text on the right is from the person recording their screen (I'll just call them "Person A"), and the audio clips on the left are from Lucas. The title bar of the chat has Lucas's name and picture (I wish that Person A had clicked through to prove that it linked to the profile that we know belongs to him, just for an added level of assurance), which represents who Person A is talking to.

The notification that pops up is just an alert that someone has posted in another of Person A's group chats: "gay4Yeshua" is their assigned nickname in that specific chat, and the group chat is named "33". Totally unrelated to the Lucas chat - if it was part of the same conversation, it would have appeared in the body of the chat, just like any other message.

No comment on whether or not it's him. It seems like it could be, but who knows. The whole thing is kind of strange - but then again, so is he. Person A is also skeptical that they are talking to the real Lucas, which is why they ask him to prove that he's who he says he is by saying Person A's name and the date, which Lucas does. When they press him on it, suggesting that he's some troll using a syllable generator to create Lucas-like strings of words, he seems to get more agitated.

I'm a little surprised at the confusion here. Everything presents as a very standard text/messaging app would. Or maybe I just use FB messenger too much?

 

[wenttobermuda]

I'm a little surprised at the confusion here. Everything presents as a very standard text/messaging app would. Or maybe I just use FB messenger too much?

Thanks for the breakdown, young one. I'm a bit confused, but not from the format.

Yesterday, Lucas was extremely agitated and incoherent on IG. It was a delight, and I want more. Then, around closing time, Lucas is recorded howling at someone, seemingly trying to prove his identity. The following day he's inactive on IG, and the recording circulates.

Huh? Where, and who?

Would Lucas act that way at the HoC? If not, where was he? Who in their right mind would talk to Lucas at that hour? Why would Lucas pick up? What about the rest of the conversation?

These are not burning questions.

I appreciate the glimpse into Lucas's nocturnal world, however. It's nice to know that as Spokane sleeps, Lucas seethes and roars somewhere in the dark.

 

[BowlOfDick]

This latest screaming episode has been an absolute treat after a relatively quiet time for Lucas for the last month or so. Lucas really has spoiled us.

 

[BrightGold]

Thanks for the breakdown, young one. I'm a bit confused, but not from the format.

Yesterday, Lucas was extremely agitated and incoherent on IG. It was a delight, and I want more. Then, around closing time, Lucas is recorded howling at someone, seemingly trying to prove his identity. The following day he's inactive on IG, and the recording circulates.

Huh? Where, and who?

Would Lucas act that way at the HoC? If not, where was he? Who in their right mind would talk to Lucas at that hour? Why would Lucas pick up? What about the rest of the conversation?

These are not burning questions.

I appreciate the glimpse into Lucas's nocturnal world, however. It's nice to know that as Spokane sleeps, Lucas seethes and roars somewhere in the dark.

Yeah, I agree! This was definitely the weird part for me too. It just seems like such a bizarre thing for him to do - why single out someone specific to send audio rants to? Why not just make more Instagram videos? One would imagine that if he could make audio recordings of him screaming, he could make videos of the same thing. My bet is that he wasn't at HoC for some reason, he was paranoid and anxious about being "in the elements" (because we know, again, that Lucas is MADLY paranoid about his surroundings and features of "unreality" that plague him), and decided to lash out. But I still don't understand why he chose this format.

 

[Mitt Doggy Dogg]

maybe he thought person A was a hot 18yr old zoomer with bloomers he could drown a toddler in so he picked up the phone at 2AM

 

[Wernology]

This morning I decided to turn on auto-captions on the latest screaming rant, and it generated some amusing stuff.

That one is my favorite just for the facial expression it captured.