No one’s still here for this retard’s supposed “cause” anymore, and they haven’t been for months.
Yeah, i agree, but you know, it really depends on which type of group we're talking about. Like, if we're talking about the bpdemon crowd on xitter, then yeah they were never even here for the "cause." It's insane that, at one point, they didn't even want to connect his name to healthcare at all. They’re just there so they can worship a moid while still cosplaying as social activists. They just want to keep repeating "fair trial" and "presumption of innocence" until their faces turn blue, just so they can also gush about how sweet, smart, and gentle Lulu is. How sad he is, sitting in federal prison. How tragic his life turned out this way (for a choice he made on his own. it’s not like anyone put a gun to this retard's head and told him to kill Brian and write “deny, delay, depose” on the bullets. It’s not like anyone stopped him from hiding or throwing away the evidence for five fucking days).
And as for everyday people who don’t follow this case closely but still think he’s some kind of hero, well, we can’t completely blame them either. People have jobs, bills, families to take care of. Are they really supposed to sacrifice all of that just so a "message" (from a retard who wasn’t even sure of his own message) doesn’t die out? Are they supposed to storm every health insurance company building? Are they supposed to call their representatives every single day when they’re already drowning in life? Kek, yeah, I’m sure that’ll fix things. I’m actually kind of pissed off at the people who saying we’re "wasting momentum" and that we "failed him." Failed him for what? This retard didn’t even offer any solution or call to action in his journal or his letter to the feds. He just wanted to say he isn’t as bad as Ted K, how disgusted he is by parasites, how brilliant his planning was, and how he’s the first person to face it with such brutal honesty. Like sorry, not everyone has the privilege to just sit around and then throw their life away like he did. He wrote dramatic things, killed a man, fled, and got caught. It's not that deep.
And honestly, from the very beginning, this was never some deep revolutionary moment. It was just people celebrating the death of an evil CEO ,no more no less. A guy who built his entire career on denying people life-saving care finally got what was coming to him. That’s it.
i’ve been reading tim urban’s what’s our problem? book out of sheer curiosity (luigi called this the “most philosophical book of the 21st century”) and it’s actually not bad but that’s besides the point
Yeah, this book isn’t bad, but it’s definitely not “the most philosophical book of the 21st century" either. If I had to sum it up in one sentence, it’s basically: “Cancel culture makes us dumb and mean, please stop.” Which sure, I agree to a point. Because nowadays you can’t even say things like:
>Women = adult human female. Trans women are men.
>Prostitution is male violence, not liberation.
>Porn fuels rape culture.
If you dare say that out loud, there’s always a libfem ready to jump in to maul you, usually just to defend some troon’s feelings or their own “choice” to do OF. And they’ll remind you men are victims from patriarchy too and we must protect men’s mental health anyway.
But at the end of the day, I don’t want any man dictating how I should speak my opinions anyway (oh no! Guess I’m just a low-rung thinker then, huh?). Some parts of this book indirectly lump feminist activism in with “tribal low-rung thinking” too. The book frames oppression mostly as bad thinking or bad discourse. But I see patriarchy as a material system of male dominance, not just an opinion problem.
I can also guarantee that the average man who loves this book even if he rants about “Free Speech!”would probably dislike my worldview or at least feel deeply uncomfortable with it. They’re allergic to strong ideology. They want every “tribe” to chill out and “just think better.” So when I say “Men as a class oppress women as a class,” they’ll hear “extreme dogma,” or “man-hating,” or “too mean to man.” They’ll probably even lump me in with the same “woke mobs” they claim to hate, then they’ll cancel me, ironically.
Also, I actually disagree that we shouldn’t have cancel culture at all. We should absolutely cancel rapists, chomos, pimps, cancel them forever.
What else… oh right. Unfortunately for Urban’s fans, the women I consider my heroes, the radical feminists from the 1900s through the 90s,were the opposite of “rational calm discourse.” They’re the reason women can even have bank accounts and higher education today. They weren’t interested in “neutral debate” with men about whether patriarchy existed. They organized against men’s collective interests. They didn’t have the modern libfem mindset that says “Please collaborate nicely with men so we don’t cause division." The rights women have now, to education, work, legal protection from sexual violence, mostly exist because of unapologetic, disruptive, radical feminist action. Now polite liberal women inherit the benefits and roll their eyes at the radical methods that got them here.
Anyway, I almost forgot we were talking about Luigi. Funny how the day he got arrested, I checked his Twitter and saw how much he worshipped this book. And i wonder how does someone who loves a book about “polite discourse” so much end up killing a man to send "message"? Well, I guess you can’t override entitlement, narcissism, and retardation with a few neat philosophical doodles. And now, after his heroic action, he wants to crawl back to his “polite discourse” identity, like, “Hehe, I’m over my anarchy extremist phase, I’m a rational tech-bro centrist again now 
.”It really shows that he never had any real conviction.
So he’s really been admiring that grifter for a long time. I’m even more convinced Weegee wants to be him because of that length and him copying his points multiple times.
He's a fanboy. That's just what fanboy and fangirl do; imitating their idol. And why tim urban spesifically? It probably because he thinks Urban represents the perfect model of "unthreatening male genius": system-oriented, emotionally clean, digestible, and respected.
Weegee, uncertain of who he is but desperate to be someone, saw Urban and thought: That's what a rationl, safe, important man looks like.
I don't get his infatuation with literal-who grifters.
It’s because they confirm or say things that Weegee already thinks and wants to hear. All of those grifters basically say the same thing in different ways: Rationality is the most superior way of thinking. Emotion, empathy, and compassion are useless for civilization therefore women are inferior. But also, women have to want to keep being baby-breeding machines so the human species doesn’t go extinct, and they should do emotional labor to protect men's hearts so men can receive the emotion and empathy we just said was useless. Yes, we remember, empathy is bad. But not if it’s given to a man in a relationship.
Modern civilization is collapsing because of declining birth rates. It’s those damn women, they just don’t want to breed! Maybe we should create laws to force them to have babies instead of making better and safer conditions so they actually feel secure raising children. No, the solution is definitely not to treat women better (because nice and good= simp and not masculine). Also, according to traditional values, men should dominate women and make them obey no matter what. Women aren’t even full human beings anyway, they’re just here to be side supporter characters in a man’s heroic journey!
Free speech! But only for things we’re comfortable hearing and that align with our values. If it doesn’t, then you’re irrational and woke. Scream about cancel culture, but also demand bans on feminist theory, anti-racist education, or even basic mental health ideas. If it doesn’t validate their worldview, it’s “woke” propaganda.
Stoicism. Therapy is bad and propaganda. What else? Well, the whole point is: you’re just so much smarter and more special than average people in society, and the problem isn’t you, it’s that modern society is too “feminine” and emotional. Oh wait, I forgot, women are doing gender war by calling out rape statistics and domestic violence! Society is just so mean to men. Male loneliness is an epidemic!
and certainly not "robust" or democracy and all that jazz wouldn't have only come into fashion in the last century, after over a millennia of being beaten down at every turning point would it.
Saying America is “robust” is like saying a toxic relationship is strong because the couple hasn’t broken up ignoring all the abuse, suppression, and denial keeping it together.
do they read this shit and become what they are or are they just naturally drawn to it is what I wonder.
Both. Feedback loop.
Men are raised in a world that affirms and rewards self-centered abstraction, glorification of control, the erasure of vulnerability, the worship of intellect detached from consequence. They are taught to believe they are neutral thinkers when in fact they are steeped in entitlement, hierarchy, and avoidance of accountability.
i fucking hate these people so much. why don’t they actually put their money towards one of their “social justice” causes
I don’t want to be too harsh on this person, because clearly she’s using this as some kind of opportunity to express her grief about her mother. But like… this just confirms that people don’t want real revolution, they just want revenge and blood. Because if you really think about it, the best possible outcome from the money she gave is that Keren gets more passionate about doing her job, which might actually help Luigi walk free. And then what? Yes, it’s a middle finger to billionaires, but nothing’s going to happen to us. Those greedy moids aren’t going to suddenly give people universal healthcare just because they feel “called out.” They don’t care about being hated, they’re used to it. People compare this to the French Revolution and guillotines, but that’s false comparison. Back then, power was split between king and church. But now , billionaires and elites are effectively untouchable, they control the military, politics, media, and economy. You cannot “guillotine” the IMF, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, or Big Pharma. No amount of symbolism can take that down. I think Americans are so deep into this myth of the “chosen one” that they’d rather pour hope into one man as a symbol, instead of doing the messy work of building real communities or supporting each other in everyday life. But even then, those past “chosen ones” MLK, Malcolm X, even the early labor organizers,were surrounded by movements, not internet fandoms. They were willing to risk everything, and more importantly, so were the people around them. Luigi isn’t leading a mass movement. He’s not organizing strikes, not giving speeches, not mobilizing communities. People are projecting meaning onto him.
Deep down, most people know nothing significant will come from this. But they just really like Luigi, they see him as a “promising young man,” so tragic and selfless, someone who was angry enough at the healthcare industry to throw his whole life away, who did what no one else would. That kind of emotional story sticks with people more than any political theory ever could.
