Artcow Luna Tiny / Sara Elizabeth O'Hern / Anonymous-Asexual / AnonymousArtist - Fake troon, fake asexual, possible art thief

creamy cookies said:
same smug assholery in writing, and blocky necks and pillow shading in art
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Also, same bullshit and lying. They might not yell, but people like her throw an absolute fit about being misgendered - just later, online, where they can draw a comic about what they wish they'd said and pretend it's true. Considering how melodramatic they are about how misgendering murders troons/enbys constantly, to suddenly back away from that and suggest that who does it and in what context actually matters does not match up with their previous behaviour.

It just emphasises that basic rule of SJWs - they attack their own almost exclusively because those are the only people who might care about their opinions. A 99% ally is going to be mobbed much more often than a right-winger because of the two, only one has any reason to care about someone like Luna's opinions of their allyship.

Also, just to point out to Luna that just because someone knows you and knows what pronouns you prefer, doesn't mean they either like or respect you enough to deny reality to appease you. And that when you've presented yourself as some tough gender warrior who asserts herself in the face of all 'ignorance and bigotry', it's definitely hypocritical to act like these grey anon strawmen's actions are, again, reliant on context and your personal whims rather than a solid set of morals that you pretend to apply to all situations.

But what am I saying. It's not like Ol' Toothpaste Hair's comics have ever been anything but one in an infinite line of wannabe artists, where aggrieved assholes just replay or even create conversations where they get to actually 'win' whatever argument they can think of.
 
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She fails to understand that anons could be anyone, especially someone who is new to her scrawls and delusions. They're not a hivemind.
On a different subject, does the bitch still wear/draw herself wearing fingerless gloves with everything she wears? That's really shit fashion sense. Though now that I think about it, most genderspecials and tumblrinas tend to have horrible taste in fashion.
 
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It's been a long time since I checked in on our asexy queen. Good to know she's still making shit comics. Here's some particularly ugly panels. What the fuck is going on with that cat?
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All these years and she still hasn't picked up a book on human anatomy. Almost every single one of her drawings that isn't a perfect frontal view of the bust (which in itself is a miss half the time) has some very jarring errors regarding the head and neck (often too large) connecting to the shoulders (often too small). The spacing and sizes of the arms in relation to the torsos always manages to look jarring. No proper joints (especially in the hands) either, and the pillow shading doesn't help.

Just see for yourself, man.
 
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I guess Luna learned about coloring linework? The sketch doesn't look too bad but once it bits lineart and colors, it isn't as appealing.

could add more depth to the lineart, a heel to the right boot, and probably not airbrush all the shades.

Eh, but what do I know. I'm not a genderspecial artist so everything I say is bigoted
 
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Still virtually no improvement. I can't even tell what the fuck changed in her art. Slightly more joint folds?
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She’s improved a little bit. She’s not drawing giant heads on small bodies anymore so that’s good news. Compared to other art cows on KF I’m glad she’s trying to get better. Her art isn’t amazing but at least it isn’t completely stagnant.
 
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Chrom said:
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Still virtually no improvement. I can't even tell what the fuck changed in her art. Slightly more joint folds?
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I had some insomnia and this felt like something I could tackle for an easy drawing challenge to relax. I'm doing this more as criticism as a selling tool rather the shortcomings in the art itself. I do think it's a bad drawing but isn't intrestingly bad enough for a redraw by itself.

First of the general idea isn't bad. A self portrait is a pretty decent marketing tool for commission work as its not only shows an example what you could get but who is it from. Brand creating an all that. The different steps and background lines to show of what is available isn't original, but it's a well tested template. Easy to read and gives good idea to estimate how much what you want is going to cost, it's used because it works. So the very basics do check out.

Where this falls short is that this self portrait just isn't well done for marketing purposes. The pose isn't a good one for this. It's not only boring and stiff but it's also unclear on what you are going to get. Why is she holding her hand up? I get it's ment to be a hello from the artist to seem friendly and approachable but remember that this supposed to show what you are going to get with each line. A bust is generally just a face, neck and maybe shoulders but this makes it look like one floating arm belonging to that price category.

The legs are boring and badly draw. In general this wouldn't be that bad as most people do tend pay more attention to face and hands but with this format the full body is kind of an up sell. You need show that getting legs is worth of that five extra bucks from a halfbody and this is just not doing it.

The second issue is that the steps just don't stand out enough from each other. Every step should obliviously different from each other and get more impressive to give insentive to spend more money. This kinda fails with both. The sketch and the line work look almost identical, except the sketch is actually bit more interesting looking because it has some shading and darker spots around the face.

Next is the colored ones and again they look almost identical. The biggest difference is the background blob but when the shading is what you are selling it's not a good look. Also this shape and location doesn't play well with the price lines. It makes it look like the bust will have a tiny color hump. Still the bigger problem is that the shading just isn't noticeable enough. I genuinely had to really look if there was any. Most potential clients won't bother so that will eat the upsell potential and at worst confuse them not to order. Since we are here, why is the biggest price hike with the flat colors? That's like the fastest step that you can nock off in ten minutes. Sure it has the highest wow factor compared to the previous step but if you know anything about digital art that pricing doesn't look good.

So after that text wall and before the next one here is my take. While my version doesn't have prices I aimed it still being a marketing material type. My first instinct was to do something more dynamic with the pose, sexier character designs and all that but then figured it would be more informative if I stayed closer to the home. So while did treat Luna as a random character rather than an actual person and did other changes, I tried to stay similar to the original. Similar standing pose, similar proportions, similar clothes and similar colors outside of adding little eye catching pink.

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I will admit that my sketch is crap and not worth of any money but that's just how my work flow goes and I didn't feel like deviating too much just for a redraw. This is bit more detailed than my average because I knew I was going to show it but yeah, I know it's still a mess. That to be said I think my method could be better for Luna. I think part of her issue is that she tries to sketch a nice picture rather than do a nice final image. It's normal enough with inexperienced artist that they work in moment rather than think a head. Sketching is useful but it doesn't one for one translate into clean ink lines or nice colors. Overdoing it during sketching just doesn't leave space for the final tools to shine because you end up trying to copy something with tools that don't really work like that.

What I do is a very loose sketch for poses and proportions. Sometimes I do this few times but I just start inking as soon as I have the general idea cleared out. That to said I do little sketches as needed as I work on. This one of the best features of digital art, you can just stop, sketch on a different layer and continue inking. For example with hands I often need little help to get fingers right but I don't bother with them before the arm position pretty final because that affects how the fingers should go. You can see my method with the actual line work being so different from my sketch.

Then about the colors. I took my time with them, long phone calls are exellent for this, but I wasn't that careful and it wasn't anything that laborious. Flat colors I did very flat and fast. Simple clean colors with few extra details and the background element for selling power over lines and set it up for shading. With shading I went mostly with a simple one shadow layer cell shading as it is fast but still gives a strong sense of light and dark. Then I added few little highlights, colored some areas with a softer brush and put in few subtle gradients. I think the colors came out nice and give the bottom area more intrest despite the pose staying basic.

I think it's a huge improvement but I'm biased. So what do you guys think?
 
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morimori-chan said:
To Amber the Hedgehog (since I can't reply) - Your art style is a lot better, it doesn't scream "SJW" or "pseudo-anime baby face"
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I think she actually trying more like a disney face. Maybe anime coloring but the rest gives me strong disney renaissance vibes. Sure it's just a guess with her art quality but the general face shape, size of facial features and her age I would find it very likely that disney movies being number one style influence. It's not really there, it's missing the flow, weight and crunching that makes that house style so appealing, but that's what Luna's drawing remaind me more of than anime

And thanks. It's not really my main style, I usually go more cartoony, but it was fun do a more semi realistic thing.
 
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