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Machine deploys fog in retail stores to deter burglars

Note: There's a video the site isn't allowing me to upload. Saved it as an MP4 two different ways, neither is allowed here. Both worked on my computer.

CHICAGO (CBS) -- A burglar who can't see something can't steal it either – that is the idea behind a new method of deterring crime by using fog.

As CBS 2's Tara Molina reported Tuesday, the technology behind the fog release is a brand-new way of fighting the mass retail thefts plaguing the city.

In Lincoln Park, one small business was hit by thieves and cleared out twice in a year. The owner knows how badly it hurts.

"My store was robbed almost six months ago, and I still don't have a settlement from my insurance company," the owner said.

It is a problem that has been plaguing business across Chicago for years.

"Look at Michigan Avenue," the Lincoln Park business owner said. "We're down 30 percent. People are just moving out."

Problem, meet solution. It comes in an opaque white box – and it may not look like much at first glance. But it only takes seconds for the box to make the difference.

"DensityUSA's instant fog technology is pretty unique," said Mike Egel, president and chief executive officer of DensityUSA. "When a criminal breaks in after hours, the alarm deploys; the fog deploys, and in seconds, your business is going to be protected."

Security Fog Protects A Gunshop by DensityUSA on YouTube

The reason, Egel said, is because the burglars won't be able to see what they're doing.

"They literally can't see it to steal it," he said.
Security Fog Demonstration by DensityUSA on YouTube

DensityUSA's non-toxic, no-grime fog tech is being used across the world - successfully, according to Egel. But the tech just started rolling out in the U.S.

"So our line is warn, alert, repel - and the repel actually works," Egel said.

Robbery clip 2 by DensityUSA on YouTube

We ran the numbers. Both theft and robbery are up this year in Chicago.

Theft is at the highest level we have seen since 2019, robbery at the highest level since 2018.

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This tech aims to prevent another hit like the kind the Lincoln Park business suffered twice.

The basic model runs around $7,000.

"It'll fill up about 1,000 square feet in roughly 15 seconds," Egel said.

The Lincoln Park store is the first in Chicago, and in Illinois, to put the fog to the test. The owner didn't want herself or her store identified, but she did want to share information about the fog tech with other business owners – and with the public at large.

"It just gives me peace of mind," the business owner said. "I sleep better."

DensityUSA's technology has been in place in the Lincoln Park store for about a month. They haven't had to use it yet.

The owner hopes it will make all the difference.

The DensityUSA technology is being used in stores across the country in states like California, Missouri, and Tennessee. The company is talking to retailers now interested in bringing more of the tech to Chicago.
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Tara Molina is a general assignment reporter for CBS2 Chicago.
 
So now that they know the system works, they're gonna replace the fog with nerve gas?

lol no, they won't even be allowed to keep the fog because it's rayciss
Wasn't bulletproof glass used for kiosks/stores until they got removed over complaints?

Pretty sure the fog machines are also causing complaints of the special kind.
 
So now that they know the system works, they're gonna replace the fog with nerve gas?

lol no, they won't even be allowed to keep the fog because it's rayciss
The more likely argument is something that will be related to respiratory damage. Of the robbers. :story:

Just spitballing here, but it seems there is a slight issue with low-tech workarounds for this solution, at least when it comes to well coordinated criminals: using a line temporarily tethered to something outside the door (carabiner on the end, looped around something, and the line snapped into the carabiner) to follow back could allow you get out even in all the fog as long as you know where you're going to when you first B&E, at least assuming an after hours robbery in an area with long response times. 15 seconds is fast but probably not fast enough if you did a quick case of the joint beforehand and know where to go initially.

Now I'll grant most criminals aren't THAT well coordinated, which I think is probably something they're counting on.
 
Note: There's a video the site isn't allowing me to upload. Saved it as an MP4 two different ways, neither is allowed here. Both worked on my computer.

I grabbed it with yt-dlp and then rescaled it from 1080p down to 480p (77MB down to 18MB) using this ffmpeg command null posted:
Code:
ffmpeg -hwaccel auto -i inputfile.mp4 -c:v libx264 -pix_fmt yuv420p -profile:v baseline -level 3.0 -crf 22 -vf scale=-2:480 -preset medium -c:a aac -strict experimental -movflags +faststart -threads 0 outputfile.mp4
The more likely argument is something that will be related to respiratory damage.
That was my first thought also. Don't blacks suffer from high rates of asthma? Dey killed my baby with that white smoke.
 
That was my first thought also. Don't blacks suffer from high rates of asthma? Dey killed my baby with that white smoke.
City Dwellers, of which most blacks tend to be. The idea of purposefully obscuring your own vision inside a store to deter shoplifters is so on its head retarded that I seriously felt that this was some sort of prank that the news bought into just to make the regular person go "what the fuck shop lifting is that bad?" But then I remember clown world and that this company is probably serious, or it could be some kind of native ad for the smoke company. I'm not a thief, but if you decide to start blasting me with smoke like this at random I'll be stuffing shit in my pockets endlessly.
 
This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. If I was anywhere near Chicago, I'd wait for one of those fog machines to go off, crack my skull on a shelf then sue the pants off the store. Any time I worked retail I had to deploy a wet floor sign so someone couldn't slip and sue us, deploying fog intentionally to obscure vision sounds like any lawyer's wet dream.
 
I mean honestly, smoke machine or this?
When it comes to burglary, smoke machine every time. You could easily find yourself facing charges if you opened fire without justifiable grounds for self-defense...and even if you were in the right that doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot, just look at the wringer Kyle Rittenhouse was put through just a couple years ago.

Now if somebody's robbing you like in the video, that's a violent crime and a whole different situation.
 
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