💰 Grifter "Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

In 1968, Van Morrison, in a successful attempt to extricate himself from his contract with Bang records, demoed thirty songs that barely passed muster, with titles such as Shake it Mabel and You Say France and I Whistle. The high point of these sessions was a song titled Ring Worm which begins: "I can see by the look on your face... that you've got ring worm". He continues: "Actually, you're very lucky to have ring worm, 'cause you may have had somethin' else."

It was a more chivalrous age than the one inhabited by the degenerate Turkey Tom, where news of this kind was broken against a backdrop of plodding acoustic guitar.

 
ghastlyretard said:
While I doubt JFG's weight loss, I would like @Null to know I dropped 60 pounds in 60 days, and continued on to drop a total of 100 between Feb 1st and July 30th :( but he'd probably call me fake and fat-gay.

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What the fuck have you been eating.

Ice?

I am running 1300 calorie deficit per day and I am only shedding 2 pounds a week. Pretty gay.
 
good outro song.
the music video is cool if anyone hasn't seen it
was worked on by todd macfarlane and the dude who did the animated batman
it's probably supposed to be some libshit message, but it goes hard
back in the day when mtv used to do cool stuff
 
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Decoy St. Chum said:
I guess Josh is ready to shoot tens of millions of anime fans who might've enjoyed problematic diddy blud media?
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yeah i mean that shit is really fucking sick and it doesn't even have the boku no pico excuse of just being shit that /a/ faggots troll people with. like seeing little child animal things being tortured and prolapsing is just what people watch when they're into anime.

Chocolate Rain said:
Jersh also used to use the "its just a drawing" defense when the topic of loli came up.
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I've reiterated this about a thousand times but here's 1001 for you: I was an active user on 4chan from my early teens to mid-20s and it was sort of beyond belief that that many people just wanted to fuck kids so I was forced to conclude that it was just a drawing. Recent events, notably the time I ran an imageboard and literally the same people who opened up and ran the loli board were the same ones spamming child porn to kill the site (in protest of not being allowed to post loli on /b/, no less) changed my opinion.
 
The real takeaway from Pathways:
yes.webp
Find yours :feels:.
 
Catloaf said:
You should include Pearl's defeat to Ana Kasparian.
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LMAO. Ever since Kasparian has decided it was okay to break ranks with the dogmatic, turn off your brain for current thing leftists I find her more likable. IDK how Pearl thinks admitting getting put into a situation where her only options are stunned autistic silence or violently chimp out is a good look but dear lord is she 'tarded.
Her BAR pod interview in 2024 was refreshingly sane with her admitting she was just saying things show she didn't get dogpilled by the TYT audience. Telling a real woman she's just a mere uterus haver and needs to shut up and listen to the nu-women is actually enough shock to trigger some self-reflection.

blackshirt said:

I like his taste in music, gay wiggers do not engage.

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Lindsey Sterling was truly one of the underappreciated GOATs of the older internet. I don't remember her ever having a controversy.
I think they go up for poors like a week after.
Sugriva said:
Anyone buying a turkey tom plush needs to be incinerated immediately
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It's the new Bowbie plush!
 
Drama Fan said:
LMAO. Ever since Kasparian has decided it was okay to break ranks with the dogmatic, turn off your brain for current thing leftists I find her more likable. IDK how Pearl thinks admitting getting put into a situation where her only options are stunned autistic silence or violently chimp out is a good look but dear lord is she 'tarded.
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Pearl was in a situation where she didn't have her simps dump arguments for her and where she can freely use the mute button like she did with when Lila was on her show. Pearl has united the left and the right to side with Ana. One thing Pearls should know is that the moment you threaten or think of beating up your debate opponent, you lost. All your arguments are out.
It's still funny seeing how her sources are just anecdotes from deadbeats who whine about child support. It really felt like she was projecting her perception of feminists onto Ana. It's just overall embarrassing.
You can also see and tell that she cried a lot before her cope stream. Refusing to admit defeat, she went on talking shit about Ana and her husband. She said that she will be debating her again. Let's hope it's not on her own youtube channel lmao
 
Made in Abyss comes up a lot in this because it's popular, and I've actually watched it, so I know what's actually appealing about it, in a way a normie cartoon watcher can look at it, squint, sort of shrug and try to ignore the gross parts, or push them to the side because they're being done by morally reprehensible characters because they want to see what's at the bottom of the big hole and the soundtrack is composed excellently so they try and forget that the robot gets molested for no real reason.

And, you know, okay. Game of Thrones is mega popular despite one of the main characters being a child bride who gets repeatedly raped by a fantasy mongolian and has graphic depictions of her getting fucked while a pregnant teenager, her entire opening arc is a roller coaster of morality. Is GRRM a pedophile for writing that? I don't know him besides that he's a fat lazy fedora tipper, but I doubt it, ugly things happen in the world and when you're illustrating a different time or a barbaric people, whitewashing things for the sensibilities of modern society is something any author hates.

There's something refreshing about this tricky subject when Made in Abyss in involved though. MiA is funny in that there's no reason to give it benefit of the doubt. The cigar is not just a cigar. The brutality upon children isn't just showing the evil of a Mengele-esque character. There's no actual deniability, no nuance, the author of the manga is a disgusting pedophile who's overdue to be shoved under an asphalt paver. Once you know that, I think, any enjoyment to be had just evaporates.
 
1768602448313.pngI don't want to watch Made in Abyss, but someone compared its darker themes to Game of Thrones. In Game of Thrones, there are intense scenes of suffering and abuse involving younger characters, but characters like Daenerys eventually rise to great power and overcome their hardships. Does Made in Abyss offer any similar character development, resolution, or payoff that gives meaning to its more disturbing and violent content?


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The short answer is no. While both series share a reputation for uncompromising darkness and high stakes, Made in Abyss does not offer the same kind of "empowerment" payoff that you see in Game of Thrones.

If you are looking for a narrative where characters endure abuse to eventually become powerful conquerors or exact justice on their tormentors (like Daenerys Targaryen or Arya Stark), you will likely find Made in Abyss deeply frustrating and potentially traumatizing without the catharsis you seek.

Here is a breakdown of why the "payoff" is different, and why it might not work for you.

1. "Rising Up" vs. "Going Down"​

The fundamental difference between the two shows is their direction—literally and thematically.

  • Game of Thrones (Daenerys): The narrative is about ascent. Characters start at rock bottom (exiled, abused, powerless) and climb the ladder of chaos to gain agency, armies, and political power. The suffering is the "price" they pay to become strong enough to rule.
  • Made in Abyss (Riko): The narrative is about descent. The protagonist, Riko, voluntarily dives into a hellish pit from which she can never return. The goal is not to conquer the Abyss or fix its cruelty; the goal is simply to see it.
In Made in Abyss, the characters do not "overcome" the environment in the sense of defeating it. They survive it. They often lose parts of their bodies or their humanity in the process. The "payoff" is not power, but knowledge and the continuation of the journey.

2. Character Development: Resilience vs. Power​

You asked if the characters have development that gives meaning to the violence. They do, but it is a specific kind of development:

  • Riko (The Protagonist): She does not become a warrior queen. She remains a physically weak child. Her "strength" is an almost insane level of curiosity and mental fortitude. When she suffers gruesome injuries, she doesn't vow revenge; she coldly calculates how to amputate a limb or stop the bleeding so she can keep moving forward. Her development is about becoming a hardened explorer, not a powerful savior.
  • Nanachi & Reg: These characters have arcs that are closer to traditional tragedy. They gain emotional depth and forge incredibly strong bonds (which is the show's emotional core), but their "power upgrades" are usually the result of horrific body modification or lost memories.

3. The Nature of the Suffering​

The darker themes in Made in Abyss are often cited as more disturbing than Game of Thrones because of the helplessness involved.

  • In GoT: Violence is often political or martial. Adults fight adults (mostly).
  • In Made in Abyss: The violence is often biological and directed at small children. It involves body horror, experimentation, and "the Curse of the Abyss"—a supernatural force that causes bleeding, mutation, or death if you try to climb up to escape.
This map illustrates the central trap of the series. Unlike Daenerys, who can sail across the sea to retake her home, Riko and her friends are descending a one-way path. The deeper they go (Layers 4, 5, 6), the more impossible it is to return. The suffering they endure doesn't grant them the power to escape; it cements the fact that they are trapped.

4. Is there a Resolution?​

The series is currently ongoing (in both manga and anime), so there is no final ending yet. However, the current "payoffs" usually look like this:

  • Survival: They didn't die in the last encounter.
  • Truth: They learned a dark secret about the world.
  • Companionship: They saved a friend's soul, but often not their life or their original body.

Recommendation​

If your main hesitation is the suffering and you are looking for a "triumph over adversity" story, you should probably skip Made in Abyss.

It is a beautifully crafted world with incredible music and art, but it treats suffering as an inevitable tax of curiosity, not a hurdle to be jumped over on the way to glory. The characters do not "win" against the Abyss; they simply endure it a little longer than everyone else.

Would you like a recommendation for a dark fantasy series that does have a more empowering "rise to power" payoff similar to Game of Thrones?


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Made in Abyss is a dark fantasy anime/manga about orphan Riko and her robot companion Reg descending the massive, perilous Abyss—a pit filled with wonders, relics, and escalating dangers, including a "curse" that causes severe physical/mental effects on ascenders. The series heavily features child protagonists facing extreme peril, body horror, transformations, and suffering (e.g., melting, dismemberment, experiments), which many viewers find gratuitous or traumatic, especially since it often involves kids in pain without immediate relief.madeinabyss.fandom.com

The comparison to Game of Thrones' child/teen trauma (like Daenerys' early marriage and experiences at 13, or Sansa's later assaults—note: the "pregnant and assaulted while pregnant" detail seems like a blend/misremember of Daenerys' pregnancy loss with Khal Drogo or other plots) is common in discussions: GoT shows graphic violation and pregnancy-related violence, but characters like Daenerys evolve into empowered figures who burn oppressors and conquer. Sansa similarly gets poetic revenge (e.g., feeding her rapist to dogs).

In Made in Abyss, there is no equivalent "comeuppance" or revenge arc that justifies or balances the child-focused graphic content in a satisfying, empowering way:

  • The primary "villain" tied to child harm is Bondrewd (a White Whistle delver called the Sovereign of Dawn). He lures orphans to his base, experiments on them horrifically to study the Abyss's curse—creating "cartridges" from their living bodies (brains/guts) to shield himself from effects. Victims include Nanachi (who survives but is traumatized and fused with animal features) and their friend Mitty (permanently mutated into a helpless blob creature). Bondrewd even adopts an orphan girl named Prushka as his "daughter," then willingly turns her into a cartridge/relic for his own benefit—her remains become a tool Riko later uses. madeinabyss.fandom.com
  • Riko, Reg, and Nanachi confront Bondrewd in a major arc (covered in Season 2 movie/compilation Dawn of the Deep Soul). Reg damages/destroys Bondrewd's current body in battle, and Nanachi gets a cathartic moment of facing their abuser. However, Bondrewd survives via artifacts that transfer his consciousness across "spare bodies" (Umbra Hands). He isn't killed, imprisoned, or truly punished—he concedes the fight, lets them pass deeper, and implies he'll continue his work. The story frames him as a twisted but dedicated scientist obsessed with Abyss knowledge, not a mustache-twirling sadist; he even honors victims by remembering their names. No full defeat or justice.
  • Broader arcs: The Abyss itself is the true antagonist—its curse punishes hubris, forcing sacrifices. Riko's mother (Lyza the Annihilator) vanished at the bottom, and Riko's journey is driven by curiosity/legacy, not revenge. Protagonists endure trauma (Riko nearly dies multiple times, Reg loses control of his powers) but gain no "dragon queen" empowerment moment where they obliterate the source of child suffering. Later manga chapters deepen mysteries (e.g., Reg's origins, the Abyss's creation) but keep the tone bleak: exploration demands loss, with no tidy moral payoff.
Overall, the graphic child endangerment/suffering isn't "justified" by a revenge plot—it's intentional to underscore themes of insatiable human curiosity, the beauty/horror of discovery, irreversible sacrifice, and found family amid trauma. Some fans see it as a metaphor for childhood abuse or overwork culture, evoking survivor emotions without resolution. If the Bondrewd scenes or general kid-in-peril gore are your dealbreaker (as with GoT's assaults), Made in Abyss likely won't provide the catharsis you're seeking—it's more about enduring the descent than triumphing over it. Consider summaries, wikis, or skipping to lighter episodes if curious, but many drop it for the same reasons you mentioned.
 
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