✨ Celebrity Madonna - elderly woman mired in existential crisis.

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12 Inch Taint said:
Mae West actually had some talent in her early careeer, though, and wrote some successful plays (whereas every film this broad touches stinks to high heaven) Mae at least had camp value when she went out looking like a fat muppet. Madonna is just pathetic.
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Mae West was a fucking comedian straight out of the vaudeville scene telling risqué jokes for a living. She had no illusions about being a sex goddess - it was a character she played for a very successful career and was sharp af with her PR. As an old lady she was camp af and adored by gay men and worshipped by drag queens who imitated her for decades.

Mae was the real sassy bitch that Madonna wishes she was. Madonna actually took all the “sex goddess” stuff seriously whereas Mae always had a sense of humor about herself.
 
Mae faced reality. Most do. Sex symbols are for the young, that’s why Marilyn Monroe was trying so hard to become a serious actress-she wanted a career that lasted.

Sex symbols who’ve aged out take their cash and go off and buy farms and live a normal life, or use their name for good, otherwise it’s sad. Biology dictates that sex symbols are young, even though older women can be beautiful and talented and admirable. Audrey Hepburn did charitable work until she died. Sophia Loren is still around, but enjoying life in Italy with her family. Helen Mirren is gorgeous, but not trying to be a sex symbol. Having 20 year olds pant over you seems like something you’d want to grow out of.

But some, like Madonna, can’t face aging or reality or climb out of the box they put themselves into. A little botox or filler and laser skin treatments I can understand. They don’t really make you look younger, just less drawn. She’d probably pretty natural. But bolt-ons, face-lifts, butt additions, stomach surgeries, and I think stuff like bicep implants etc-way too much. And it doesn’t work, just look at Donatella Versace or Meg Ryan or others.

Madonna was thought of as a chameleon back in the day-she changed her style and look with each album. But then she stopped. She hasn’t figured out how to make the transition to other kind of entertainer. She’s not a good singer which is why pop was okay for her, but pop is a young persons thing. She can’t act either. She could do jobs behind the scenes but that’s not what she wants. So she’s struggling to keep her body young appearing (at a distance and filtered) but what about when she’s 70?

Madonna has a boyfriend younger than some of her kids. She has to suspect he’s out to use her. (He’s a backup dancer). Maybe I’m wrong and it’s true love at 63 and 27. I wonder how many 27 year old dudes here would hit on a 63 year old if she wasn’t formerly famous?



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Barbarella said:
Madonna has a boyfriend younger than some of her kids. She has to suspect he’s out to use her. (He’s a backup dancer). Maybe I’m wrong and it’s true love at 63 and 27. I wonder how many 27 year old dudes here would hit on a 63 year old if she wasn’t formerly famous?
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Older men can have babies with younger women, younger men can get allowances or (hope upon hope!) inheritances from older women.
 
Brigitte Bardot, one of the most famous sex symbols and fashion icons back in the 1960's, always seemed to be aware of the reality that age hits all of us.

The woman is 86 years old right now, and she didn't get a single ounce of work done to her face or body. Sure, some jerks have said stuff like "she let herself go! She looks so old!" She's 86, what did you expect? She looks like herself, and she aged gracefully. That, to me, is beautiful.

This video really proves how Bardot has had no plastic surgery or even a botox injection over the years:

In contrast, Madonna is the embodiment of cringe. Nobody wants to see a person in their 60's humping everything or getting butt implants. Jesus. If Madge just toured around the world and performed her hits on stage like a normal 60-something year-old, nobody would think twice of it. To me, her actions really exemplify what so many people have said over the years: That Madonna is all gimmick and no talent. If she let herself age gracefully, then what would she have to offer to the public at this point? Sex and spectacle are all she's got.

Madonna sucks, lol.

EDIT: And I love how a bunch of Madonna fans are always so defensive. "How DARE you judge a woman by her age! Madonna is such a rebel!"

Yeah? Well, Madonna's actions are not the actions of a confident woman in her 60's. She's doing literally everything she can to not look or act 60!
 
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Hell, people shat on Carrie Fischer for aging but I thought she look great for her age at the end. She had a wicked sense of humor too, and seemed to be pretty honest about her bipolar-fueled fuckups.

Madge tho? Somehow coming off as more of a trainwreck than a woman that openly admitted to doing enough coke to kill an elephant.
 
Android raptor said:
Hell, people shat on Carrie Fischer for aging but I thought she look great for her age at the end. She had a wicked sense of humor too, and seemed to be pretty honest about her bipolar-fueled fuckups.

Madge tho? Somehow coming off as more of a trainwreck than a woman that openly admitted to doing enough coke to kill an elephant.
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Hell I remember her on talkshows joking about guys bemoaning her not being hot anymore a couple of years before she died.

"Sorry I'm not 20 anymore" is basically what she said.
 
CheezzyMach said:
Hell I remember her on talkshows joking about guys bemoaning her not being hot anymore a couple of years before she died.

"Sorry I'm not 20 anymore" is basically what she said.
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Yeah Carrie Fisher was always amazing. Who would get cremated and have their ashes put in an urn shaped like a Prozac pill? A fucking boss, that’s who.

Madonna just needs to go away. I hate to say it, because I genuinely enjoyed her music like any 80’s fanatic, but I don’t think I’ve liked a single song from her since...the early 90’s? She’s just sad, gross, and embarrassing now. (BTW, Jennifer Lopez is on the same path if she keeps her shit up)
 
Cyndi Lauper was so gimmicky you had assumed she’d be a flash in the pan and a trivia answer. She found her lane as she got older and while she still has her quirks, she found her lane as she aged. I kind of see Pink being that person now, still weird, hella talented. Found her lane.

Madonna has become a punchline.
 
nemesisAF said:
Cyndi Lauper was so gimmicky you had assumed she’d be a flash in the pan and a trivia answer. She found her lane as she got older and while she still has her quirks, she found her lane as she aged.
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Cyndi Lauper embraced the LGBT community long before it was cool or even socially acceptable, and as such, she’s a gay icon. That’s also part of why she faded out (or got silently pushed out) of the mainstream so fast too, I think.

She can fucking sing, though. Of the 3 “80s” girls, I’d put Cyndi Lauper miles above Madonna or Tiffany as far as talent goes. “True Colors“ is a hell of a song.
 
Tiffany, a teenager and one hit wonder mall performer was the third 80s girl next to Madonna and Cyndi lmao? In what world?
 
In regards to "80's chicks in music," Pat Benatar will forever and always be my number one 80's Queen.

Speaking of Pat Benatar, she was known as a rocker chick who wore leotards and lingerie on stage back in the day (so, you know, provocative for its time, haha). Well, she's been married to her band's main guitarist for decades (and they are still happily married), they both still tour together, and she's yet another example of someone aging gracefully and looking beautiful while doing so:


Name me one goddamn Madonna song that touches the awesomeness of "We Belong." And if you do, you're wrong.
 
proteus4994 said:
She‘s more of a 70s girl (went solo in the 80s), but for me it’s Stevie Nicks. Absolutely slays everything she sings.
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I call Stevie NIcks "My 70s Queen," haha. There will never be a time where I won't sing along to "Dreams," "Rhiannon," and of course "Edge of Steventeen" whenever they play within my vicinity, haha.

15 years ago or so, I went to see Tom Petty (RIP) & The Heartbreakers-- my favorite band. Stevie Nicks was a surprise guest. When she walked up on stage in the middle of the show, I nearly hyperventilated. Best surprise ever, and best concert ever. I'll never go to a concert that will give me as many amazing memories as that one.
 
proteus4994 said:
The one where they all got popular right around the same time and were about the same age. I’m not saying she had any lasting power but in the mid 80s these were the three big female pop stars.
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Debbie Gibson as well. She had more staying power than Tiffany.
I sort of liked DG, but had to listen to her in secret, because my then-husband HATED anything pop or bubble gum. But she's still a slightly guilty pleasure of mine.
 
StarkRavingMad said:
In regards to "80's chicks in music," Pat Benatar will forever and always be my number one 80's Queen.

Speaking of Pat Benatar, she was known as a rocker chick who wore leotards and lingerie on stage back in the day (so, you know, provocative for its time, haha). Well, she's been married to her band's main guitarist for decades (and they are still happily married), they both still tour together, and she's yet another example of someone aging gracefully and looking beautiful while doing so:


Name me one goddamn Madonna song that touches the awesomeness of "We Belong." And if you do, you're wrong.
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Benatar’s tit jujitsu in Love is a Battlefield will always make me Lol.
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I remember watching that particular video on MTV as a wee one. Years later when I was in college telling people “I’m going to get my switchblade, take off my bra and go Benatar on your ass” was definitely a thing I said after too many drinks. But everyone got the joke and the video was like fifteen years old. Point is, nobody that saw her gang tit warfare ever fucking forgot it.

The response to some greasy chomo grabbing ass is for all the women to aggressively shake their tits at him and do a seductive, sweaty dance? Really? Even as a kid I was like wtf is this shit?

I’m sure Pat has some cool songs and shit, but that one video is burned into my psyche forever for the sheer absurdity.

(In her defense I guess it was her label’s attempt at copying Michael Jackson’s Beat It video. Which is its own brand of hilarious. The gay fever dream of tough butch men having a grand old west side story dance off fight then coming together for a big fab finale!)
Also, Cyndi Lauper had a incredible voice but Blondie and siouxsie Sioux were the baddest bitches of the era, and Lydia Lunch gets an honorable mention as the most psychotic. My judgment is final.
 
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