Magic The Gathering

[Retink Retunk]

Firebending is actually a really good design realization for red's supposed theme of "temp mana" and I'm actually a bit sad it may not make it out of this set.

There's always a Kora UB set that they can do. Then the graphic novels. Then the M. Night Shyamalan movie adaption.

 

[UtadaWasabi2]

Firebending is actually a really good design realization for red's supposed theme of "temp mana" and I'm actually a bit sad it may not make it out of this set.

Remember when treasure token was mostly a red thing?

 

[Noebel]

Looking closer, this might just be an art-direction issue. This is supposed to be also her, and man she's yellow. Also: full leg wraps. Can't give them gooners too much feet. Hasbro is a family-friendly company.

 

[High Level Rad Waste]

Well it seems like Blight X lets the opponent choose where the -1/-1 counter goes. It’ll probably be a set mechanic so prepare to see it a lot (hence the keywording)

It’ll also probably be a shitty mechanic. Or very fun. Or both! I have a feeling letting your opponent choose where it goes, while interesting and fun on paper, will just be underwhelming to a massive degree.

Golgari getting a faster Toxrill wasn't on my bingo card, but I'll take anything I can get.

 

[Maratus volans]

The comparison to Toxrill is interesting, actually. Mana cost aside, this card is better against narrow boards while Toxrill crushes wide boards. My Rith, the Awakener deck lives in fear of Toxrill but would be totally fine with this thing, but I could see decks with a lot of utility creatures and combo pieces struggling against it.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

Much worse Toxrill, basically requires a wide board and constantly making a wider board to function, doesn't give you slug tokens or let you turn slugs into cards. Just resolving Toxarill is a dire threat to every creature on the table, this needs other cards and a specific board state and you to continually resolve creatures into it to keep up the charade but you still need to protect your removal target at the same time.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Its not as powerful outright as Toxrill, but it does play into Elfball doing Elfball things.

 

[Baron Reginald]

I've heard Bloomburrow is very similar to the series Redwall, so it might be able to be considered a "hat" set, though at least a good one.

Looking at the Marvel cards, I don't think its going to be ignorable like Spider-Man. Namor seems quite good for Merfolk, and Captain America is a leyline of sanctity that leaves you with a 3/2 if it gets removed. Who knows, they might even push stuff more because of Spider-Man's failure.

When BLB goes out of rotation, I will probably give up on ever playing standard since it's the only recent set that I have actually had a lot of fun with and liked the design of the cards and mechanics being incredibly well designed and intertwined. It was very Redwall inspired in the theme (Animals) but it kept a lot of the great style of the classic painted MTG artstyle for most of the cards and especially with things like season of loss (well most of the seasons of X). Had some Furrybait with the collector planeswalkers but eh, can't win em all.

That and by the time it goes out of rotation almost half the sets will be fucking UB lmao.

I had hopes for Lorwyn, but a lot of the art for cards I have seen as promo material is, to be blunt fucking pozzed as shit.

 

[DootSkeleton]

Firebending is actually a really good design realization for red's supposed theme of "temp mana" and I'm actually a bit sad it may not make it out of this set.

Rename it to Flameweave or something similar and make it deciduous

 

[Yamaha YM2612]

When BLB goes out of rotation, I will probably give up on ever playing standard since it's the only recent set that I have actually had a lot of fun with and liked the design of the cards and mechanics being incredibly well designed and intertwined. It was very Redwall inspired in the theme (Animals) but it kept a lot of the great style of the classic painted MTG artstyle for most of the cards and especially with things like season of loss (well most of the seasons of X). Had some Furrybait with the collector planeswalkers but eh, can't win em all.

That and by the time it goes out of rotation almost half the sets will be fucking UB lmao.

I had hopes for Lorwyn, but a lot of the art for cards I have seen as promo material is, to be blunt fucking pozzed as shit.

The head honchos at mtg dont seem to realize the art is JUST AS important as the mechanics and stuff to a set

 

[UncleTusky]

The head honchos at mtg dont seem to realize the art is JUST AS important as the mechanics and stuff to a set

You can add 'lore' to that as well, much like art it helps the world come alive and feel coherent.

IMO this is part of why Core Sets were never popular, even if you understood that agreed WotC needed them to balance Standard + keep certain cards in Standard that couldn't go in the other sets that cycle they felt soulless.

 

[Very Professional]

You can add 'lore' to that as well, much like art it helps the world come alive and feel coherent.

IMO this is part of why Core Sets were never popular, even if you understood that WotC needed them to balance Standard + keep certain cards in Standard that couldn't go in the other sets that cycle they felt soulless.

Part of it's the text boxes. Cards have so much wordswordswords on them now you don't have room for flavor. Their flavor text writers these days also seem to be untalented Millennials, so everything's a shitty, "quirky" Whedon-tier joke. "I can't be killed by bears!" -- Olaf the Unkillable by Bears, moments before being killed by bears.

I never understood why they didn't use Core Sets for small, self-contained stories and check-ins on planes we haven't seen in awhile. 7th Edition had a story, even if it was just a couple of armies fighting in an inconsequential region of Dominaria, and it's very fondly remembered for it.

 

[Flexo]

When BLB goes out of rotation, I will probably give up on ever playing standard since it's the only recent set that I have actually had a lot of fun with and liked the design of the cards and mechanics being incredibly well designed and intertwined. It was very Redwall inspired in the theme (Animals) but it kept a lot of the great style of the classic painted MTG artstyle for most of the cards and especially with things like season of loss (well most of the seasons of X). Had some Furrybait with the collector planeswalkers but eh, can't win em all.

Not just PWers. I'm still super annoyed about this guy.

WTF dragons are showing up on there like this? Because March of the Machine proved to us that taking an omenpath to a plane does NOT change a visitor like planeswalking would.

The head honchos at mtg dont seem to realize the art is JUST AS important as the mechanics and stuff to a set

Timestamped to prove that the heads of MTG have NEVER understood how important art is. Except for 1 guy.

 

[Yamaha YM2612]

Not just PWers. I'm still super annoyed about this guy.
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WTF dragons are showing up on there like this? Because March of the Machine proved to us that taking an omenpath to a plane does NOT change a visitor like planeswalking would.


Timestamped to prove that the heads of MTG have NEVER understood how important art is. Except for 1 guy.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AfVLvn2c7kQ:1794

I disagree. Garfield and all the old school guys understood the importance of the art

Ice age is a hot garbage set, but you cant deny it gets the flavor across

 

[Flexo]

I disagree. Garfield and all the old school guys understood the importance of the art

Ice age is a hot garbage set, but you cant deny it gets the flavor across

You didn't watch the video did you.

Chuck literally brings up one of the original co-founders who worked with Garfield to get the art at the timestamp. You're "disagreeing" with the very point you were making.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

You can add 'lore' to that as well, much like art it helps the world come alive and feel coherent.

IMO this is part of why Core Sets were never popular, even if you understood and agreed with WotC's goal of using them to balance Standard + keep cards in the format that did not fit in other sets from the same rotation they could end up feeling bland and soulless.

All of it matters and how it interacts matters.

Honestly i think that is one of the things that gaming as a whole has really lost touch with.

That is why Final Fantasy killed things so hard compared to Spiderman. The Way Sagas and the Summoner cards interact as a whole is so insanely flavorful and fun to play with.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

Draft tonight captured my earlier point about firebending mana: Sun Warriors is a pretty silly card all on its own, but I only activated its ability once in all of 7 games. Instead, it was often used to cast invasion reinforcements before activating the white-rare-land, to flashback Fire Nation Attacks, to fuel sac-land draws, or to threaten the water tribe captain activation. There's such a genius in this mechanic that it necessarily encourages synergy in an intuitive way that flows with the rest of the set, whereas even if I look back at EoE - half of its archetypes didn't fire because they involved spinning plates for an incredibly paltry reward.

I had hopes for Lorwyn

The only time you should ever have hope for an in-universe set is when the art director says "just copy this other work," ala Bloomburrow. Anytime the art director has to actually conjure up something new, this most-recent one has proven completely inept -- and this includes even when returning to old planes. Lorwyn will be as badly perverted as Phyrexia was, where outside of the alt-arts (generally guest-artists overseen by a different director, if at all) everything looked like bland, generic trash.

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

WTF dragons are showing up on there like this? Because March of the Machine proved to us that taking an omenpath to a plane does NOT change a visitor like planeswalking would.

It's the dragonstorms, literally Tarkir was ground zero for the dragonstorms effecting other planes through the omenpaths. Honestly, I was bummed out when they decided to forget about it.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

It's the dragonstorms, literally Tarkir was ground zero for the dragonstorms effecting other planes through the omenpaths. Honestly, I was bummed out when they decided to forget about it.

I think he is more asking why the Dragon turned into a Hawk when he hit Bloomburrow.

The answer is "That is just how Bloomburrow works" it's the same thing as the plane from Battlebond, it shrinks everyone because the Battlebond plane is super duper small.

 

[Flexo]

I think he is more asking why the Dragon turned into a Hawk when he hit Bloomburrow.

The answer is "That is just how Bloomburrow works" it's the same thing as the plane from Battlebond, it shrinks everyone because the Battlebond plane is super duper small.

You get the question, Honka - I don't really mind the implication that the Ur-dragon's children in bloomburrow might manifest as hawk-like creatures just as I wouldn't object to angels and demons manifesting on that plane as some kind of furry variant.

The problem is that Magic explicitly established that you do NOT shrink in your example when traveling by omenpaths. You have to specifically planeswalk to "adjust" yourself to the plane.


If that was how bloomburrow is supposed to work, then the phyrexian invading Segovia there should then be made small enough it loses to Caetus, not literally remaining so tall the Serpent is a literal ankle-biter.

BTW, apparently you mixed up Segovia and Kylem - the battlebond plane.

https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Kylem

They are in fact 2 different planes, but I think you unintentionally made a good point and Battlebond really should have taken place on Segovia.