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Regarding secret lairs.
Lancers said:
Oh for sure but 9 out 10 games I play around my pod and LGS are bracket 3 and they all love their creatures. I'm fucked if someone brings out an enchantress deck and I can only get rid of her once or twice but I make do.
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Something i noticed, since i have an enchantment commander, is how little enchantment removal people play. Now i get it that for most people enchantments are things that you maybe see like 2 off per player, but when they encounter a deck made of enchantments they either complain or get annoyed at me.

I remember a dude that got angry that i had an enchantment deck and that he couldnt remove my stuff from the board calling me a no-skill loser. For those wandering it was a "curse" themed deck which mostly exist to annoy people and to be used when im playing with someone i dont like.
 
00R-Gundam said:
Regarding secret lairs.

Something i noticed, since i have an enchantment commander, is how little enchantment removal people play. Now i get it that for most people enchantments are things that you maybe see like 2 off per player, but when they encounter a deck made of enchantments they either complain or get annoyed at me.

I remember a dude that got angry that i had an enchantment deck and that he couldnt remove my stuff from the board calling me a no-skill loser. For those wandering it was a "curse" themed deck which mostly exist to annoy people and to be used when im playing with someone i dont like.
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Calix for me is the perfect enchantment commander and sometimes my enchantments only get removed if they either used a board wipe or creature removal.
 
00R-Gundam said:
Regarding secret lairs.

Something i noticed, since i have an enchantment commander, is how little enchantment removal people play. Now i get it that for most people enchantments are things that you maybe see like 2 off per player, but when they encounter a deck made of enchantments they either complain or get annoyed at me.

I remember a dude that got angry that i had an enchantment deck and that he couldnt remove my stuff from the board calling me a no-skill loser. For those wandering it was a "curse" themed deck which mostly exist to annoy people and to be used when im playing with someone i dont like.
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Fuckem. Splash green for more than the ramp and craterhoof.
 
00R-Gundam said:
Something i noticed, since i have an enchantment commander, is how little enchantment removal people play. Now i get it that for most people enchantments are things that you maybe see like 2 off per player, but when they encounter a deck made of enchantments they either complain or get annoyed at me.
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That is why I think removal that hits one permanent type is nearly unplayable.

Sure Swords to Plowshares is 1 mana and exiles something..but Get lost only costs one more and can get a bunch of things.
 
00R-Gundam said:
I remember a dude that got angry that i had an enchantment deck and that he couldnt remove my stuff from the board calling me a no-skill loser. For those wandering it was a "curse" themed deck which mostly exist to annoy people and to be used when im playing with someone i dont like.
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I stopped caring about people doing that once brackets showed up. If I tell you, this deck is one my more powerful, it's a high bracket 3/4 and you STILL get mad, that's a skill issue. And yeah, people can't deal with enchantments to save their life, especially black players like me.
 
Question for the kiwis:

Do you think brackets have created a worse environment for edh, made players more coddled or has it improved your experience ?
 
00R-Gundam said:
Question for the kiwis:

Do you think brackets have created a worse environment for edh, made players more coddled or has it improved your experience ?
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The only interesting aspect to me is the use of "game changers" as a soft ban list, but it probably needs more categories (fast mana, fast win cons, etc). Brackets kinda try cover this by proposing turn expectations, but I haven't noticed that working very well as a metric.

The system just needs a lot more effort put into it. What exists now is really lazy and doesn't act as a good enough shortcut for setting game expectations. There's a lot of cope I see about how the brackets are just meant to be guidelines for a rule zero convo, but if I have to have that conversation anyway I struggle to understand what value brackets add.

To actually address your question though, I've noticed no meaningful difference between this and the informal 1-10 deck rating thing people did, just different terminology.
 
If one more person plays that fucking retarded ferret deck, I'm going to shoot them. I fucking hate that deck. It's not that it's hard to beat, it's just really annoying 'cause the turns take forever.
 
Give us a Chris Chan secret lair you cowards! I need my sonichu medallion sol ring!
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00R-Gundam said:
Do you think brackets have created a worse environment for edh, made players more coddled or has it improved your experience ?
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It's pretty-seriously cut down on pubstomping, because it's created something of a blanket understanding, even among casuals, of what a wallet-warrior's deck looks like. This is mostly because of gamechangers, admittedly.

The broad strokes of what it means to be a deck in each bracket is useful as a quick shorthand. It struggles to deal with people who try to play the system, but that's going to be true of anything used to try to regulate a concept-space as wide as MTG. I've generally found that its fixation on "how the game should end" is useful, because it gets people to realize that combo almost-uniquely doesn't interact with EDH meaningfully as a format, which has always been the core issue. Providing a useful partition to force combo to play where it belongs, at a higher power-scale pod, has made games below bracket-4 much more varied and much more enjoyable.
 
00R-Gundam said:
Question for the kiwis:

Do you think brackets have created a worse environment for edh, made players more coddled or has it improved your experience ?
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It's made some of the most insufferable faggots I've ever had the misfortune to play with. They'll make "technically a 2" that's optimized for shredding precons and cry if you play absolutely anything that beats them.

Dudes will say their table's a 2 so I pull out that Gisa and Geraff precon with a reanimate and some banners added to the 99, then they'll pull out fucking Ur-Dragon, Krenko, and Jodah the Unifier, then whine at each other the entire time. It's the new "my deck's probably a 7."

M'kay buddy. Here's my totally a 2 Tayam deathtouch and stax special.
 
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Polock said:
Shiiiiit theres gonna be a dwarf fortress secret lair...probably gonna have to get that one...
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How retarded is actually getting a secret lair going to be? I want these but haven't gone through the process before and all I hear at my game store is horror stories of missing out.

I do want the mystical archive drop as well since it has the japanese Abrade art but english text.
 
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