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cuddle striker said:
tear asunder is a good card. on the subject of removal

the secret lairs/expanded crap universe is annoying. but it's been said so much. they keep claiming it's really popular but it's just their word on that, as they don't release sales numbers
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I feel like it doesn't make the cut in the main of most decks, should have been just a B kicker and it still wouldn't see play in Modern at that rate. It's a nice naturalize though and belongs in the golgari sideboard
 
I've mashed a lot of the bo1 drafts (rewards are more consistent / better than bo3 online). Feels like a prince set that has a handful of pauper cards - the common and uncommon removal is really good. The problem is, some of the bombs are so absurdly ridiculous, it really doesn't matter. DMU had a handful of bombs, but there was no denying that on the whole it was a pauper set stuffed to the gills with fantastic removal and threats at low rarities.

The inclusion of the artifact reprints really does allow for a lot of interesting builds, though. Some are stone useless like Ashnod's Altar, but it's fun to make a pizza oven deck in limited that can actually function pretty well. Of course, it also means there's plenty of chance for someone to open up a wurmcoil or sundering titan in a reanimator shell and shit all over you. It also does allow you to spend the whole of pack 1 mostly picking colorless stuff, in the hopes that you get a better bomb in the next pack.

Black feels like it's one of the stronger colors simply because it's got a common-rarity instant-speed exile removal that's often only 1-3 mana plus a suite of other good removal. Additionally, the signpost uncommons in black mostly function without restraints: whereas yotian outcast or tactician want you to have a lot of artifacts or soldiers, junkyard genius provides his own stone to sac right away, the gb spider just requires a creature, and the wb one will usually find a target in the gy to return and often pumps one or two things on the board (more if you have tokens). UB is kindof clunky and awkward, and its uncommon reflects that - though it's still a 2/3 loot, which is fine.
cuddle striker said:
as they don't release sales numbers
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Judging by the fact that they're stuffing these 'festival kits' with excess commander decks, I get the feeling a lot of the constant churn churn churn churn isn't actually moving product. I wouldn't be surprised if the WH40k stuff sold rather well, though, since a lot of the card designs in the decks were genuinely fun.
Oddjob OTP said:
I feel like it doesn't make the cut in the main of most decks, should have been just a B kicker and it still wouldn't see play in Modern at that rate. It's a nice naturalize though and belongs in the golgari sideboard
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It depends on the meta of where you're at on the ladder, since for whatever reason different decks like to settle in at different ranks. It does a lot of work against decks stuffed to the gills with incidental artifacts or enchantments, and while it isn't great against the black decks, it can at least snipe tenacious underdog permanently. You could mainboard 1-2 if you're at a rank where you see a lot of annoying enchantments / artifacts.

I haven't really tried my hand at building anything for this standard format just yet, just been doing limited. I have a feeling there's still going to be no room for rogue decks and it'll settle into goodstuff on the rails soon enough.
 
There's 6 or 7 games I wanted to try that were featured in InQuest magazine that my local game stores just never carried. If I could turn back time...
 
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Noebel said:
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That's a reprint, albeit a solid reprint with worse art. Kinda funny how the art director wanted to say they were not commissioning certain artists because they wanted a particular digital realism focus; then had anime planeswalkers, chibi secret lairs, and other nonsense.

When is it not spoiler season? I've yet to get my group together to even crack a box of BRO sealed or draft and we already are on Jumpstart 2022?
 
Haywire said:
That's a reprint, albeit a solid reprint with worse art. Kinda funny how the art director wanted to say they were not commissioning certain artists because they wanted a particular digital realism focus; then had anime planeswalkers, chibi secret lairs, and other nonsense.

When is it not spoiler season? I've yet to get my group together to even crack a box of BRO sealed or draft and we already are on Jumpstart 2022?
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don’t ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product
 
Haywire said:
That's a reprint, albeit a solid reprint with worse art. Kinda funny how the art director wanted to say they were not commissioning certain artists because they wanted a particular digital realism focus; then had anime planeswalkers, chibi secret lairs, and other nonsense.

When is it not spoiler season? I've yet to get my group together to even crack a box of BRO sealed or draft and we already are on Jumpstart 2022?
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No, look at its face. It has shoujo manga boy glance.

I was joking when I wrote that WotC are planning to capitalise on the furry demographics, but now I'm not so sure it's a joke.
 
Noebel said:
No, look at its face. It has shoujo manga boy glance.

I was joking when I wrote that WotC are planning to capitalise on the furry demographics, but now I'm not so sure it's a joke.
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Have you seen how much they spend on fursuits? I'm surprised they haven't made a secret lair filled with bara Ajanis.
 
Looks like Hasbro is selling off some assets, such as its media studio that was very woke. They'll probably sell the majority of their products before MtG, but everything seems to be crumbling from their card games to their new woke D&D games. It's almost like people don't want to deal with this retarded shit.
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Haywire said:
I miss when Magic was Magic
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I miss that too, but it hasn't been that way since they gave up on having a focused Narrative back in Llorwyn.

tear asunder is a good card.
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Tear Asunder is probably the outright best Disenchant/Naturalize ever made by a very wide margin. I honestly think it might be a top 5 Card from DMU, it's not Flashy but it is absolutely amazing.

I feel like it doesn't make the cut in the main of most decks, should have been just a B kicker and it still wouldn't see play in Modern at that rate. It's a nice naturalize though and belongs in the golgari sideboard
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I can't remember the last time a Naturalize made the cut of a main deck in an eternal format. Honestly if Naturalize is making the main deck in an eternal format something is probably broken.
 
New thing that's riled up the MtG community, looks like not only did random celebrities get the 30th Anniversary Proxies for free, but now Yugioh youtubers are getting several boxes for free to make videos with when they have never made Magic content before.

I get the idea is to draw in buyers from other games, but it's kind of a retarded idea to just give super expensive shit to content creators of other games and completely neglect your own content creators and others who shill your shit.
 
Retink Retunk said:
You know, I'm kind of surprised there isn't a reanimator deck in Standard. There's a ton of ways to get things into your library and several 5 mana return an artifact to play, so combine that with Fleshgorger, City Leveler, and Phyrexian Portal and you have a rather strong base. The rest can just be removal and disruption.

I'd build it for the fun of it, but it would take way too many rares and mythics for me to care to grind out in Arena for a fun deck.
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On that note I came across a good Bo1 list for an updated Naya Reanimator list, I feel if you fucked around with the mana base a bit you could just do a transitional sideboard into normal ramp in Bo3 after they side in their graveyard hate.
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
I haven't really tried my hand at building anything for this standard format just yet, just been doing limited. I have a feeling there's still going to be no room for rogue decks and it'll settle into goodstuff on the rails soon enough.
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I feel like most of the rogue lists this set are going to be combo based garbage trying to get big things into play turn 4 or 5. There are a couple decks I think everyone slept on, Mardu Dragons is a supringly synergistic midrange deck trying to abuse Ratadrabik and those legendary dragons from Kamigawa. I feel like there has to be a brilliant restoration deck and I tried hard to make it a meme on rotation but everyone maindecking Lilliana was pretty backbreaking as a spell based control combo deck trying to also ramp more or less with land drops. Probably is more doable now with prototype creatures instead of those channel creatures from Kamigawa and the overall less Lili maindecking.

Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I can't remember the last time a Naturalize made the cut of a main deck in an eternal format. Honestly if Naturalize is making the main deck in an eternal format something is probably broken.
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I don't really think of it as a Naturalize, I think of it as color shifted Utter End that has a 2 mana discount if you point it at an artifact or enchantment. What I'm saying is that they could have gone a little harder on it because no one in Modern wants to hold up 4 mana for removal ever. But in standard 3 mana removal is something that gets maindecked pretty often. It's a 100% upgrade if you had naturalize in your deck for some reason but most green decks in modern seem to be using Force of Vigor for artifact and enchantments in the sideboard instead.
Retink Retunk said:
New thing that's riled up the MtG community, looks like not only did random celebrities get the 30th Anniversary Proxies for free, but now Yugioh youtubers are getting several boxes for free to make videos with when they have never made Magic content before.

I get the idea is to draw in buyers from other games, but it's kind of a retarded idea to just give super expensive shit to content creators of other games and completely neglect your own content creators and others who shill your shit.
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TBH they don't have many content creators left they could trust to not just mock them the entire time they did the opening, their only hope is people who won't immediately understand how terrible the Deathlace they just pulled in the rare slot really is.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
TBH they don't have many content creators left they could trust to not just mock them the entire time they did the opening, their only hope is people who won't immediately understand how terrible the Deathlace they just pulled in the rare slot really is.
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Hey now, he opened a Purelace, not a Deathlace in his 250$ box of proxies. Timestamped:
 
Oddjob OTP said:
What I'm saying is that they could have gone a little harder on it because no one in Modern wants to hold up 4 mana for removal ever. But in standard 3 mana removal is something that gets maindecked pretty often. It's a 100% upgrade if you had naturalize in your deck for some reason but most green decks in modern seem to be using Force of Vigor for artifact and enchantments in the sideboard instead.
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"Not Playable in Modern" doesn't mean it is a bad card or needs pushed further, especially given that Modern has a massive amount of really good removal already in existence. Removal Has been power crept to the point where Path of Exile is no longer played in Modern, and honestly I would rather them do the dance they did with the "Sacrifice a Creature, Draw two cards" effect where we get a new one every year that is slowly tuned upwards instead of a horrifically overpowered thing that can't be taken back.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
"Not Playable in Modern" doesn't mean it is a bad card or needs pushed further, especially given that Modern has a massive amount of really good removal already in existence. Removal Has been power crept to the point where Path of Exile is no longer played in Modern, and honestly I would rather them do the dance they did with the "Sacrifice a Creature, Draw two cards" effect where we get a new one every year that is slowly tuned upwards instead of a horrifically overpowered thing that can't be taken back.
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Yeah, but I'm saying "hold up 3 mana" is a big enough ask as it is in standard in every deck but control (which is rarely a green deck in standard... or hell even pioneer). Holding up 4 mana it better draw you a card or leave a body behind or something because no one wants to pay 4 mana for a 1 for 1.

I'm basically saying that 3 mana is the current rate for instant removal that hits most everything, last standard we had a 2 mana spell that yeeted all monocolors and it missed almost nothing. People are already not playing Void Rend that kills every non-land and hates on ward because it's too expensive. This is basically a 3 mana scry one draw two to compare it to the sac draw spells.
 
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