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Noebel said:
They aren't racist. It's just perpetuation of unrealistic beauty standarts. It's a white woman-tier racism, kinda sidelined by astrology in the recent time. They're just more serious about it.
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There is also the fact that we really haven't seen the Lorwyn elves in their natural state, The Great Aurora was fucking everything to shit.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
There is also the fact that we really haven't seen the Lorwyn elves in their natural state, The Great Aurora was fucking everything to shit.
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In the JLA / Avengers crossover comic, there was one issue where the two worlds were combined (but not in the "amalgam" way they were like a decade earlier). In a bit of irony, it was Superman and Captain America - the biggest boy scouts - who started acting like the biggest dicks to everyone. (This was later justified as them being the most "in tune" with their universes and so they could sense something was wrong)

Anyway, there is something interesting a writer could do that the elves were like... "reverse tuned" to Lorwyn. When things were happy and sunny and Mr. Rogers plane, they were absolute assholes. Conversely when the shift happened and the world went grimdark, they became "the good guys" trying to push back the darkness.

If things settle into a new status quo, what would happen to them? Would they mellow out? Would their society split into a debate over which mode should be their standard? Every culture was affected by the Aurora but it just caused them to swing between the two extremes of their paradigm (like the Kithkin swinging between a communal shared mind to the Borg) the Elves (and I guess treefolk) were the only ones who changed so completely.

Will WotC bother to take a gamble and actually write something that could be this thought-provoking? Heck I'm partially wondering what would really differentiate bloomburrow from lorwyn other than furry bait. (even if the former's story was just Kamigawa 1's.)
 
I'ma have to reread the Llorwyn books..What I remember of it the Great Aurora...is basically a normal Day/Night cycle that was subverted by Oona and the Mending Caused her to lose control of it and make it into night, but all the Night versions of everyone is different.

Now that I think of it..how would that work with a Normal Day/Night Cycle? Do the Kithkin become Xenophobic for 12 hours? Or are Years/Decades long Days and Nights a common occurrence in the plane..Imagine YEARS of it being Day.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I'ma have to reread the Llorwyn books..What I remember of it the Great Aurora...is basically a normal Day/Night cycle that was subverted by Oona and the Mending Caused her to lose control of it and make it into night, but all the Night versions of everyone is different.

Now that I think of it..how would that work with a Normal Day/Night Cycle? Do the Kithkin become Xenophobic for 12 hours? Or are Years/Decades long Days and Nights a common occurrence in the plane..Imagine YEARS of it being Day.
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Been awhile since I read the lorwyn books (if I did... I think I did). I do remember the Nissa origins story:

Nissa dodged and spun away from the attack. She held up her blade to block a second strike, but it never came.

Both Galed and Dwynen stood shocked, staring ahead, their mouths hanging open.

Nissa turned slowly, dreading what she would see. Her worst fears were realized.

A towering wall of twisted, squirming night was approaching them. As it moved across the land it left dark destruction in its wake.

"Shadowmoor," the darkness hissed.

"No!" Dwynen gasped. "Not my Lorwyn. Not my beautiful Lorwyn!" She summoned her magic and blasted a spell at the approaching darkness. Galed followed suit.

Nissa stepped up next to them, reaching down for her own magic.

"What are you doing?" Dwynen glared at Nissa.

"I'm helping you!"

"You're not helping. This is all your fault! Witch!" In one motion, Dwynen threw Nissa to the ground and landed with her knee on Nissa's chest.

"I didn't do this," Nissa choked out. "Let me help, please. Maybe together we can…."

Dwynen pressed a nocked arrow to Nissa's throat. "You destroyed my world!" She moved to release the bowstring, but just as she did, the wall of darkness touched her.

Dwynen was paralyzed, caught in the Great Aurora of Shadowmoor. She changed before Nissa's eyes, darkening and hardening.

Before the dark wall could touch her too, Nissa slid out from under the tip of Dwynen's arrow, sprang to her feet, and ran.

"Where are you going, pretty little elf?" the dark voice hissed in her mind.

Nissa didn't look back. She just kept running—she kept running and thinking of Zendikar.

"Oh, you want to go home, do you? But what will you do when you get there? You're powerless against the evil that haunts Zendikar."

I know time in MTG is extra wonky now, but unless Nissa was born at the same time as the mending (maybe?) it seems like the Aurora was already in place. Though she could have been born, then sparked shortly around the mending,

Of course we love to bring up Liliana and Bolas being super old, old-walkers, but there is a question of who should have maybe had a taste of being a classic walker. Like Elspeth sparked and traveled to Bant (alara) where she stayed until the conflux sent her into a panic and she ran off. She joined up with Venser for the quest for Karn and Venser sparked during the mending and Elspeth seemed about the same age.

Though checking on the wiki, it says Karn spent decades tormented by the Phyrexians (when it was the mending that caused him to realize how badly he messed up and sent him back to Mirrodin) so maybe it's supposed to be over 10 years from Time Spiral to Scars of Mirrodin (even though it's only 4 years in the real world).
 
Flexo said:
it seems like the Aurora was already in place.
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As far as I am aware, The Llorwyn Books take place in time with the Mending or shortly after.

Oona had control of the Great Aurora and extended the Days/Nights using that control, but the Mending broke her control of it and shifted Llorwyn to Shadowmore. She was afraid that this Aurora would affect her because it wasn't one she was control of so she took the form of Maralen to protect her from the change that affects all of the plane when an Aurora happens.
 
I don't get putting absolute garbage into Secret Lairs and then releasing these bangers in the main set.

What is even the point of Secret Lair if any half-decent alt art is in the main set?

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Retink Retunk said:
FreeMTG
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Freemagic is pretty based.
One of their admins snatched up a twitter handle that the art director tranny (who pushed the homosexual vampires) abandoned and pretended to be them until WOTC realized what was happening and it pissed them off so much that they basically threatened to sue him iirc.
 
Polock said:
Freemagic is pretty based.
One of their admins snatched up a twitter handle that the art director tranny (who pushed the homosexual vampires) abandoned and pretended to be them until WOTC realized what was happening and it pissed them off so much that they basically threatened to sue him iirc.
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Looking at the creation date it looks like the sub has been around for a while, and I just ran across it. Also looks like a lot of more moderate people are there now just because they're sick of the woke bullshit. You know shit's gone too far when normies are becoming sick of it.
 
Retink Retunk said:
Looking at the creation date it looks like the sub has been around for a while
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If I recall it correctly, freemagic happened because at the time there was that mod in the main mtg sub, who had a prolonged reddit moment and decided that all discussion about proxies are verboten. A lot of people got banned.
 
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Noebel said:
If I recall it correctly, freemagic happened because at the time there was that mod in the main mtg sub, who had a prolonged reddit moment and decided that all discussion about proxies are verboten. A lot of people got banned.
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I have the official story from one of the admins
BracerCrane said:
In 2017 Kodemage and Ubernostrum were the head moderators of MagicTCG and they moderated their subreddit with a draconian ruleset that wasn't public to anyone and effectively lead to garbage moderation of the subreddit. This lead to multiple threads getting started on /r/KotakuInAction, one of which was started by user Mardurusher that kicked off a big discussion where dozens of people shared similar stories of breaking no rule, other than offending the sensibilities of Ubernostrum or Kodemage. In that thread, user Fussomoro asked if there was an interest to start a subreddit akin to /r/Freefolk, a protest sub started due to bad moderation on the official Game of Thrones subreddit.

A few years later, both Kodemage and Ubernostrum got ousted from moderatorship from the MagicTCG subreddit due to poor moderation and thus Freemagic won.

Here is the original thread where the subreddit got started
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I'll compile the twitter funnies for the other thread since its more of a meta community sort of happening
 
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