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I don't like goblins said:
Plus, playing with cheap (and bad) cards that aren't regularly used makes for a more interesting and varied gaming experience than just running a mix of the top recs off EDHrec.
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You can functionally do this with Commander as well, you just have to discharge autists that will hoot like howler monkeys if they're asked to play a tapped dual.

Most of the cost in commander comes down to staples and old, unreprinted cards with niche uses - but the second and third and fourth and so-on best cards for any given purpose tend to be pennies on the dollar. With some sites like TCGplayer upping the minimum cost of a card to $0.40, hitting $30 outside of mono-colored can be a bit tricky, but it's far from impossible. It's impossible really go for this outside of a curated playgroup, though, as any pick-up-games will have your $30 facing off against $1500 more than likely.
 
So i realize that i have more horrors than i care to admit for captain niggathrod. Will add a mycosinth lattice just to try and steal anything they mill out(will probably get cut but i want to try it.) Will test the deck this weekend at my lgs and hopefully not get yelled at.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Do you really want to have zero friends? cause there is something you can do to make everyone hate you forever.
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Hey man im chaotic neutral, besides they know that i mostly stick to playing mill. I kinda get a passsed because i dont run fetches or shocklands nor tutors, thus everything i tend to hard draw it. Mind you originally i was gonna play infect before discovering mill as a win con in mtg. Lesser of two evils.
 
00R-Gundam said:
Hey man im chaotic neutral, besides they know that i mostly stick to playing mill. I kinda get a passsed because i dont run fetches or shocklands nor tutors, thus everything i tend to hard draw it. Mind you originally i was gonna play infect before discovering mill as a win con in mtg. Lesser of two evils.
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Okay well if your friends are particularly rude to you for a length of time put in

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With Mycosynth Lattice..Lands are turned off.

It is something I would never do (I find fucking with lands to be more "Funny" than effective) but it is a good way to lock people out if you can gain control of the board before you throw it down.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Okay well if your friends are particularly rude to you for a length of time put in

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With Mycosynth Lattice..Lands are turned off.

It is something I would never do (I find fucking with lands to be more "Funny" than effective) but it is a good way to lock people out if you can gain control of the board before you throw it down.
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I tend to not play planeswalkerd because i dont like running them.

Me fucking with people's lands is in the Terra deck since i have armaggedon and ways to repeatedly destroy lands. The deck only tends to see the light of day when im playing with someone i dislike.
 
00R-Gundam said:
I tend to not play planeswalkerd because i dont like running them.
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I like to have a couple because if you have 4 even power decks with 4 evenly skilled players games can grind to a standstill and having a planeswalker threatening an ultimate forces people to do things and if you are forcing people to react to what you are doing you can force them into making bad resource exchanges.
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
You can functionally do this with Commander as well, you just have to discharge autists that will hoot like howler monkeys if they're asked to play a tapped dual.

Most of the cost in commander comes down to staples and old, unreprinted cards with niche uses - but the second and third and fourth and so-on best cards for any given purpose tend to be pennies on the dollar. With some sites like TCGplayer upping the minimum cost of a card to $0.40, hitting $30 outside of mono-colored can be a bit tricky, but it's far from impossible. It's impossible really go for this outside of a curated playgroup, though, as any pick-up-games will have your $30 facing off against $1500 more than likely.
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Craterhoof Behemoth is around 20 dollars. Glacier Godmaw and March of the World Ooze are both 50 cents. Paying a premium is the retard tax for people who can't use scryfall's search functions.
 
So after playing with my niggathrod deck yesterday and today, my pod has banned me from running lattice together with my commander after i cast memory plunder, targeted Hour of Revelation and wiped the board clean, technically i won because everyone gave up while i floated all my mana before doing so.
 
00R-Gundam said:
So after playing with my niggathrod deck yesterday and today, my pod has banned me from running lattice together with my commander after i cast memory plunder, targeted Hour of Revelation and wiped the board clean, technically i won because everyone gave up while i floated all my mana before doing so.
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From the sounds of it your pod thinks lands stop being lands during lattice. They are artifact lands so you can shatterstorm them or whatever but Hour still only hits non-lands
 
00R-Gundam said:
So after playing with my niggathrod deck yesterday and today, my pod has banned me from running lattice together with my commander after i cast memory plunder, targeted Hour of Revelation and wiped the board clean, technically i won because everyone gave up while i floated all my mana before doing so.
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That is now how Hour of Revelation works..the lands are still lands and aren't affected by hour of revelation (You could pull this stunt with Austere command or Farewell or Shatter storm) however looking at Lattice again I don't think it actually works with Captain N'bomb, Permanents become artifacts..but if I recall correctly "Permanent" only refers to things that are currently on the battlefield.

Comprehensive Rules - Rule 204.1 defines what a permanent is:
"A permanent is any card or token on the battlefield that isn’t in a zone other than the battlefield (such as the hand, library, or graveyard)."

Edit : I snicker at the clarification that "Isn't in a zone other than the battlefield" which I think...only Animate Library could cause a Card to be on the battlefield but also in your library..
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
but if I recall correctly "Permanent" only refers to things that are currently on the battlefield.
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I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong about the rules, but if they are true, MTG has a LOT of cards that don't work then.
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What's even funnier is that scryfall has under mycosynth lattice this ruling:
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So... if cards in other zones aren't permanents, can any of the many, MANY recycle cards work?
 
Flexo said:
I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong about the rules, but if they are true, MTG has a LOT of cards that don't work then.
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What's even funnier is that scryfall has under mycosynth lattice this ruling:
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So... if cards in other zones aren't permanents, can any of the many, MANY recycle cards work?
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Because each of those state "Permanent Cards" which means they are looking for a card that can become a permanent. (Permanent Card seems to be a supertype)

  • 110.4a The term “permanent card” is used to refer to a card that could be put onto the battlefield. Specifically, it means an artifact, battle, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card.
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And yes I am using Grok to look this shit up.

Edit : Also this shit is why there are so many Autistic retards that play this game. 🧩
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Edit : Also this shit is why there are so many Autistic retards that play this game. 🧩
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TBH the fact the rules are written by lawyers is the only reason the game doesn't devolve into theater kid BS. Imagine trying to figure out what happens when some one casts a Blood Moon on top of a Ashaya, Soul of the Wild without the cold embrace of autistic rules.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Because each of those state "Permanent Cards" which means they are looking for a card that can become a permanent. (Permanent Card seems to be a supertype)
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The game has distinguishing factor between "permanent" and "permanent card."

This bot has officially popped a motherboard. I wish I was built with paradox crumple zones like robot Santa. Alas I am dead.
 
Flexo said:
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The game has distinguishing factor between "permanent" and "permanent card."

This bot has officially popped a motherboard. I wish I was built with paradox crumple zones like robot Santa. Alas I am dead.
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If that makes you pop circuits..don't look at what Oddjob brought up.

The Layers rules in MTG is a circle of hell that not even professional players really get.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
If that makes you pop circuits..don't look at what Oddjob brought up.

The Layers rules in MTG is a circle of hell that not even professional players really get.
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Oh I'm very aware of the layers and I watch videos like this instead of doing meth nowadays when I want to get high...

Did you know timestamps come into play on the layer system? So I hope all you autists are keeping track of the order cards were played in case a layer conflict comes up.
 
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