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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
That was the one i was not super sure on, i knew it was 4, and was certain on warlock, rogue and Mercenary.
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This is what bugs me about outlaw batching. Not a bad idea (though it does show the issue with getting too granular on creature types), but like... it's not intuitive.

Why isn't "villain" an outlaw?
 
Logistical Nightmare said:
Wild to see grandeur return again, and I’m honestly starting to think it makes sense for common legends to have that text on them.
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Grandeur appeared in MH3 on Skoa, Embermage and it played alright. He was a slow-but-better FTK that could go face and didn't need to shoot itself, and the ability to surprise dome someone for 8 was nifty.

Grandeur is a band-aid fix to the fact that they are designing entirely too many legends, and common legends should be an amusing oddity rather than the norm. It's an absolutely retarded design space, because 'legend' is strictly a downside in any sets without a legend theme (and barring Dominaria's historic, no set which attempted 'legends matter' actually achieved it)... so you have to push the cards to make up for that inherent disadvantage. Pushed commons are really bad for limited, like this card which warped an entire set around it.
 
Flexo said:
This is what bugs me about outlaw batching. Not a bad idea (though it does show the issue with getting too granular on creature types), but like... it's not intuitive.

Why isn't "villain" an outlaw?
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Because MCU Villains aren't cool enough to join Degeneration X and become the Neo New Age Outlaws.
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
Grandeur is a band-aid fix to the fact that they are designing entirely too many legends, and common legends should be an amusing oddity rather than the norm. It's an absolutely retarded design space, because 'legend' is strictly a downside in any sets without a legend theme (and barring Dominaria's historic, no set which attempted 'legends matter' actually achieved it)... so you have to push the cards to make up for that inherent disadvantage. Pushed commons are really bad for limited, like this card which warped an entire set around it.
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Funny thing is that its a fix that doesn't exactly work, because the reason for all the Legends is commander but grandeur doesn't work in commander.
 
Holy shit, the Secrets of Strixhaven story starts with 40 minutes of heavyhanded exposition between the 4 students from Llorwyn and elf boi from that plot.

Bring back Journo killing Ral please!
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
That...has to be fake

Edit : Okay looking at how this is supposed to work...it's not all that strong its more for memes than anything. Lord of Change is 1 more total for Flying, +1/+1 and more ward.
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I’m not actually sure if it’ll be broken or not but boy is it something that feels fucking weird to do. 1 mana draw three after you land a body is pretty strong in my book but time will obviously tell.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
It's not all that strong its more for memes than anything.
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If Rakdos scam has taught me anything, it's that reanimation cards can fix most problems. Persist gives you a 4/4 draw 3 for 3. Not a bomb like archon but an okay filler card for dimir/grixis reanimation bullshit. You can also flicker it since it enters prepared.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Yes because this is totally for Commander and not an attempt to make the unplayable ass Mana rocks we get relevant.
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I was more of meaning Grandeur itself - it came out in Future sight as a test to mitigate playing multiple legendaries.

It looks like now they are only putting grandeur on commons so my guess is its more for newer players. Continuing down that cards are multitools so no one gets mana screwed/flooded ever again.
Logistical Nightmare said:
I’m not actually sure if it’ll be broken or not but boy is it something that feels fucking weird to do. 1 mana draw three after you land a body is pretty strong in my book but time will obviously tell.
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I could see strong, I doubt broken. Wan Shi Tong is probably a bit better for a draw body, or Quantum Riddler. Normally less draw power, but the ability to get out earlier helps a lot. I will be a little surprised if it saw play in current standard, but who knows for the future.

Draft/Sealed I imagine it will be an absolute powerhouse. Modern/Legacy/etc. you normally want a body that's more of a threat or has early game utility like Quantum Riddler.
 
Doggy Dog World said:
If Rakdos scam has taught me anything, it's that reanimation cards can fix most problems. Persist gives you a 4/4 draw 3 for 3. Not a bomb like archon but an okay filler card for dimir/grixis reanimation bullshit. You can also flicker it since it enters prepared.
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Why reanimate this when you can reanimate Atraxa or Griselbrand which draw more cards and have better bodies?
 
DootSkeleton said:
Why reanimate this when you can reanimate Atraxa or Griselbrand which draw more cards and have better bodies?
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Persist only targets non-legendary creatures which allows that card to slot into something like dimir/grixis archon reanimation.

EDIT: Players pattern in my head would be frog turn 2 discard emeritus assuming you don't have an archon, persist it turns 3 and play recall to reload your hand.
 
Doggy Dog World said:
Persist only targets non-legendary creatures which allows that card to slot into something like dimir/grixis archon reanimation.

EDIT: Players pattern in my head would be frog turn 2 discard emeritus assuming you don't have an archon, persist it turns 3 and play recall to reload your hand.
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Ahh right right I read Persist but thought Reanimate. Yeah that's certainly an option but it's competing against Archon of Cruelty which I think is probably a better target. Definitely worth trying though
 
Getting back in to social commander at the local shop and honestly I forgot that the game actually is pretty fun, it's just the people playing paper formats that haven't changed since 20 years ago when I last played in a store.


On the upside, I've finally gotten to play Dandan with people and meme format aside it's actually pretty excellent as a tool for figuring out how the stack resolves over multiple cards.
 
DiabeticSydePhil said:
On the upside, I've finally gotten to play Dandan with people and meme format aside it's actually pretty excellent as a tool for figuring out how the stack resolves over multiple cards.
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Dandan and other pickup formats are honestly some of my favorite things to be going on in magic right now. The only downside is wizards is jumping on the bandwagons to cash in on these community formats, and while that does mean you can handily just buy a deck, it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. A 100$ dandan secret lair is not something I want to be seeing, and yet…
 
Logistical Nightmare said:
A 100$ dandan secret lair is not something I want to be seeing, and yet…
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A $100 dandan secret lair that instantly sold out, only includes half foils, and is getting scalped for $200+

Fuck em, I bought a proxy deck using the secret lair designs because it's just for dandan and the cards are never leaving that specific wacky side game again.

Secret Lairs for decks like this can go to hell.
 
Logistical Nightmare said:
I’m not actually sure if it’ll be broken or not but boy is it something that feels fucking weird to do. 1 mana draw three after you land a body is pretty strong in my book but time will obviously tell.
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Why isn't it an ETB or activated effect?

Because magecraft is obviously going to come back. I will 100% bet all of you that ancestral recall on him counts as casting an instant or sorcery. So this guy will be triggering all your "on cast" shenanigans on top of getting you a draw 3.

I'm curious if prepare has to be done once per cast or once per turn. Flicker effects with this guy will certainly be cash money. Another thing to break with Deadeye Navigator...
 
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