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I haven’t played MTG in awhile, I just remember liking the art direction of the Eldrazi, a suddenly invasive race of ancient incomprehensible geometric flesh monsters set out to become the defacto sole existing race upon the surface of the world. They took awhile to set up in my experience, but once they got rolling, they couldn’t be stopped. Love them to bits.

Also, posting this card I got signed by Larry Elmore. Really nice man, one of the few artist of any card game I’ve met irl that wasn’t an asshole.
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Flexo said:
At this point I think desolator is just seeing how much chain he can yank. Since by my calculation for everything about himself he claims to be true... he would have to be about a 104 years old.
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I tend to ignore "I done everything thing man" that he likes sperging about. He isn't wrong about how childish this 40K crossover shit is.
 
Harlan Wick said:
I tend to ignore "I done everything thing man" that he likes sperging about. He isn't wrong about how childish this 40K crossover shit is.
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Can you explain this to me? Did people lose their shit over the godzilla cards? Those cards looked pretty sweet.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Can you explain this to me? Did people lose their shit over the godzilla cards? Those cards looked pretty sweet.
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I'll try. No one lost their shit when the Godzilla cards came out but they were gimmicky crap. It was just a stupid idea to try and rope another fandom into MtG. And Wizards is doing more of this to compete with Yogiho (however you spell that) and Pokemon.
 
Harlan Wick said:
I'll try. No one lost their shit when the Godzilla cards came out but they were gimmicky crap. It was just a stupid idea to try and rope another fandom into MtG. And Wizards is doing more of this to compete with Yogiho (however you spell that) and Pokemon.
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Yugioh and pokemon don't have any crossover cards. Some lesser known card games in nippon do. Is this like, for lore reasons people are mad, or gameplay?
 
Maratus volans said:
Honestly, I don't hate that. There aren't tons of cards out there with names generic enough to make the jump from MtG to something like 40k, and a lot of the cards that could - stuff like Murder - could be done more flavorfully as something in-universe for the IP. It's not like you're going to name a regular Magic card "Chainsword to the Face" or whatever, so you're probably not even blowing sweet names on these cards.

That said, I really don't like this. For me, Magic's IP and Magic as a game system are linked. I'm assuming a lot of this is driven top-down from Hasbro, which is still trying to make up for the death of Toys'R'Us by squeezing every penny it can out of its profitable divisions. From that perspective, it seems like the suits at HQ view Magic like they view Monopoly: you have this game that's just a bunch of rules and you can reskin it with whatever IP you want and sell people more of the same shit they already have because, hey, *this* version of Monopoly is the Ultimate Deluxe Simpsons Limited Collectors Edition, or whatever, and you don't have a version of Monopoly like that.

Lego, Funko Pop, and yeah, a lot of Hasbro lines make their money by just being vehicles for IP tie-ins. It makes a lot of sense - you save big on R&D costs, consumers are already familiar with it so you don't have to spend tons on advertising, so your only real costs are production and getting the rights. Magic is different, though, since it's not a static game like Monopoly, and I don't think Hasbro quite realizes that.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Standard sets have had shit balance the past two years is because Wizards R&D was diverting playtesting resources to these tie-ins. Maybe they would have realized that the best use for Oko's +1 was just to elk all your opponent's good cards instead of making 3/3 Food tokens if they'd gotten some more games in, but instead they had to go test the Captain Titus of the Ultramarines commander deck against the Moana commander deck or whatever to keep Daddy Hasbro from getting the belt again.
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Now the blood ravens have resorted to stealing whole other games! Oh how far the little mag pies have flown.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Can you explain this to me? Did people lose their shit over the godzilla cards? Those cards looked pretty sweet.
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The Godzilla cards were pretty popular, the big difference between them and the Warhammer 40K cards or..The Walking Dead Cards is that the Godzilla cards were just alternate Arts of actual Magic Cards



These are functionally the same card, people enjoyed it because effectively it is just a Promo version of a magic card, Consomers can have their stupid little Godzilla and people who don't like it can just consider it "Gyruda" instead of Gigan.

The "Cashgrab Realms, Expanded Realms whatever the fuck they want to call it" are legitimate cards from other settings


And there is no other variant card that exists for that, it is just Rick from the Shitty Dead that now appears as an absurdly good Lord for the best Tribe in the game.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
The Godzilla cards were pretty popular, the big difference between them and the Warhammer 40K cards or..The Walking Dead Cards is that the Godzilla cards were just alternate Arts of actual Magic Cards



These are functionally the same card, people enjoyed it because effectively it is just a Promo version of a magic card, Consomers can have their stupid little Godzilla and people who don't like it can just consider it "Gyruda" instead of Gigan.

The "Cashgrab Realms, Expanded Realms whatever the fuck they want to call it" are legitimate cards from other settings


And there is no other variant card that exists for that, it is just Rick from the Shitty Dead that now appears as an absurdly good Lord for the best Tribe in the game.
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Oh now I get it. I can see you getting pissed off that your big ogre motherfucker gets shot dead by human with gun and then you get dabbed on.

But I must say that I find it hilarious that Magic fags will learn that the greatest of them all, ARE THE ULTRAMARINES!!!!!!
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Oh now I get it. I can see you getting pissed off that your big ogre motherfucker gets shot dead by human with gun and then you get dabbed on.

But I must say that I find it hilarious that Magic fags will learn that the greatest of them all, ARE THE ULTRAMARINES!!!!!!
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I can get crossovers like D&D because WotC.
I can get crossovers like MLP and Transformers because Hasbro.
I can get crossovers like Godzilla because giant monsters. I guess.
I can get crossovers like TWD because zombies?
I can get crossovers with other TTGs like 40K, which I like, but now we're stretching things.
Their press releases on the issue spells out that WotC is going to treat this as a prostitution racket and that's about it.
 
Godzilla1984 said:
I can get crossovers like D&D because WotC.
I can get crossovers like MLP and Transformers because Hasbro.
I can get crossovers like Godzilla because giant monsters. I guess.
I can get crossovers like TWD because zombies?
I can get crossovers with other TTGs like 40K, which I like, but now we're stretching things.
Their press releases on the issue spells out that WotC is going to treat this as a prostitution racket and that's about it.
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I guess its time for you guys to move to yugioh? I play a mean dark magician deck.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
I guess its time for you guys to move to yugioh? I play a mean dark magician deck.
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I share a mind with my brother from another mother, Rudy.
If I were to get back into TTG, it'd be Flesh and Blood.
MTG is being weekend-at-Bernie's by WotC and Hasbro because they squeezed out all the life from it in the 2010s.
I tapped out after the Dominaria/Garfield lunacy, haven't looked back, and been better off since.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Oh now I get it. I can see you getting pissed off that your big ogre motherfucker gets shot dead by human with gun and then you get dabbed on.

But I must say that I find it hilarious that Magic fags will learn that the greatest of them all, ARE THE ULTRAMARINES!!!!!!
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Less that and more that it will water down the game itself and go from "MAGIC: The Gathering" with magic concepts and whatnot to.... "RANDOM IP: The Consuming" where the Ogres just don't exist and the decks go from 4 people sitting down with the Elder Dragons that started the EDH Format..to "Captain Jack Sparrow vs Harry Potter vs Rey Skywalker vs Barak Obama"

it is going to be an absolute shit show in 6 Months when WOTC releases the "Forgotten realms" core set and the inevitable overly pushed Drizzt Card that they will refuse to ban because it's Drizzt.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Less that and more that it will water down the game itself and go from "MAGIC: The Gathering" with magic concepts and whatnot to.... "RANDOM IP: The Consuming" where the Ogres just don't exist and the decks go from 4 people sitting down with the Elder Dragons that started the EDH Format..to "Captain Jack Sparrow vs Harry Potter vs Rey Skywalker vs Barak Obama"

it is going to be an absolute shit show in 6 Months when WOTC releases the "Forgotten realms" core set and the inevitable overly pushed Drizzt Card that they will refuse to ban because it's Drizzt.
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That sucks man, any chance that theyll cool it on the crossover stuff?
 
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