Many Saints of Newark - A movie with too many stories it wants to tell with not enough time

[Gone Ham]

Anyone else looking forward to this Sopranos Prequel?

Edit: I’d rate it a 6/10

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I was until the first leaks came out. Not really spoiler, and could be false, but apparently a third of the movie is spent on the black characters and how they interact and hang out with the Jersey guys, which is absolute bullshit that wouldn't be tolerated by the mob back then. Or today for that matter. It doesn't even work within the universe of the Sopranos, we saw what racial relations were like in the 90s were supposed to believe the 70s were better? No made guy in Jersey had mulignan friends/girlfriends, period. If a black guy raised his hand or even worse, killed a made guy, he would have been fucking thrown into a wood chipper.

I hope it's all bullshit, but I'm really not excited about it. Straight up not looking forward to it anymore.

 

[Gone Ham]

I was until the first leaks came out. Not really spoiler, and could be false, but apparently a third of the movie is spent on the black characters and how they interact and hang out with the Jersey guys, which is absolute bullshit that wouldn't be tolerated by the mob back then. Or today for that matter. It doesn't even work within the universe of the Sopranos, we saw what racial relations were like in the 90s were supposed to believe the 70s were better? No made guy in Jersey had mulignan friends/girlfriends, period. If a black guy raised his hand or even worse, killed a made guy, he would have been fucking thrown into a wood chipper.

I hope it's all bullshit, but I'm really not excited about it. Straight up not looking forward to it anymore.

They better not make a fucking mob movie with the woke trash we have to deal with. Thanks for the heads up btw, I had no idea about that

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Apparently it's not fully woke, but the race insertions are fucking ludicrous, like, having black guys as part of the inner circle and meetings and them giving shot to mobsters without consequence etc...

Again I hope it's just wrong or people who freaked out over nothing but from what I've read over a third of the whole runtime is about the black characters and racial riots and shit like that.

I really really fucking hope it's not the case.

 

[Justtocheck]

Apparently it's not fully woke, but the race insertions are fucking ludicrous, like, having black guys as part of the inner circle and meetings and them giving shot to mobsters without consequence etc...

Again I hope it's just wrong or people who freaked out over nothing but from what I've read over a third of the whole runtime is about the black characters and racial riots and shit like that.

I really really fucking hope it's not the case.

I would find it very weird to see that about Chase. Unless of course he went off the deep end and finally decided to go full Hideki Anno on his audience.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I would find it very weird to see that about Chase. Unless of course he went off the deep end and finally decided to go full Hideki Anno on his audience.

I don't know he went around the election year writing fanfiction about how AJ would have ended up a racist friend of Stephen Miller and would have ended up being Chief of Staff and shit

That led interviewer Jeremy Egner to remember that A.J. closed out the series hoping to become a helicopter pilot for Trump. They asked Chase where he thought that relationship would lead.

"He might be the new chief of staff," he said, "He’d be buddy-buddy with Stephen Miller, I know that."

While A.J. would be close to Trump, Chase thinks Tony would see through the president's shtick.

"He would think the guy was full of [expletive]. Whether he thought he was a good president or not — I don’t know that Tony thought much about that question at all, with anybody who was in office. But I know Tony would have thought Trump was penny-ante, in terms of his lying and presentation," he said.

In fact they pretty much had all bad levels of TDS

Michael Imperioli, who somehow only won one Emmy for playing Christopher Moltisanti, has recently taken to inserting pro-Joe Biden messages into The Sopranos. “Trump stopped by the Bing one night. We gave him VIP treatment, everything on the house and he didn’t tip anyone! Zero! Stiffed the whole staff… even Peppino the bathroom attendant. Unforgivable. VOTE BIDEN,” he wrote in one. And another: “VOTE BIDEN: Joe Biden was a long time customer at Satriale’s and yes, he loves his Gabagool. You got to live him for that.” When asked by Vanity Fair how he sees the election playing out, Imperioli said that the “the Soprano crew” would vote for Biden, while “most of the New York crew is not for Biden. They’re for Trump.” As far as I’m concerned, that’s canon. No self-respecting Green Day fan would vote for Trump — it’s not very punk.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

They better not make a fucking mob movie with the woke trash we have to deal with.

They will.

 

[MediocreMilt]

apparently a third of the movie is spent on the black characters

Those two guys? I think I seen em! Runnin that way!

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

If I see Tony's sister I will get so fucking mad

 

[Gone Ham]

Just finished the movie. It’s ok, I’d advertise it more as a Dickie Moltasanti movie than a Tony Soprano movie. It didn’t need to be made, but Michael Gandolfini did a good job. Also they got Liv Soprano down to the T.

Spoiler: Major spoiler

Surprised they made it so Junior killed Dickie

 

[Product Placement]

I enjoyed it, would give it a 7/10, however clearly not made for newcomers and even recreates some of the flashbacks from past episodes. All the actors do a great job, but Tony Soprano is very much a secondary character.

Alan Taylor as director, had me worried, while he has an amazing track record when it comes to TV, his two past movies are the dog shit Thor 2 and Terminator Genisys. But he does a good job here, and it never feels like a longer episode of the TV show which other movies based on TV have felt like.

The movie does have issues, they had no idea how to start the movie, so they tried a few things out, the one they picked doesn't work. For newcomers, it will just be weird and for fans of the show, it feels a bit too jumping the shark. The rest of the movie is good, which make the intro and few other bits linked to it, really stand out.

Are a few nods to what is to come, not all of them are awful but they really could have cut a few of them out. Would say the script is the weak point, not that it's bad, just struggles to get some idea to work as well as they should.

Overall good movie, while it does recontextualize some stuff from the show, it never feels like it does it for the sake of subverting expectations.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Ok based on you two I'll give it a chance and if you led me wrong I will find you hogtie you then turn you into fucking gabagool.

 

[Gone Ham]

I enjoyed it, would give it a 7/10, however clearly not made for newcomers and even recreates some of the flashbacks from past episodes. All the actors do a great job, but Tony Soprano is very much a secondary character.

Alan Taylor as director, had me worried, while he has an amazing track record when it comes to TV, his two past movies are the dog shit Thor 2 and Terminator Genisys. But he does a good job here, and it never feels like a longer episode of the TV show which other movies based on TV have felt like.

The movie does have issues, they had no idea how to start the movie, so they tried a few things out, the one they picked doesn't work. For newcomers, it will just be weird and for fans of the show, it feels a bit too jumping the shark. The rest of the movie is good, which make the intro and few other bits linked to it, really stand out.

Are a few nods to what is to come, not all of them are awful but they really could have cut a few of them out. Would say the script is the weak point, not that it's bad, just struggles to get some idea to work as well as they should.

Overall good movie, while it does recontextualize some stuff from the show, it never feels like it does it for the sake of subverting expectations.

I’d like to add that it’s bullshit they spoiled a major plot point in the series in the first 5 minutes

 

[Kulee Baba]

I’d like to add that it’s bullshit they spoiled a major plot point in the series in the first 5 minutes

I'd say if anyone got spoiled that's their own fault for not watching one of the most acclaimed TV shows.

 

[Moby Dork]

I've been looking forward to it for a long while, since I was a diehard Sopranos fan.

(That usually means it can never meet the expectations I've built up for it in my mind, but I'll give it a shot anyway. Because, you know, Sopranos.)

 

[X Pac Heat]

It's a messy film. It would have made a better series. You can't run that many subplots and character building moments in a 2 hour film. The more I think about it, the more I'm reminded of the Plinkett Phantom Menace Review. What was the main plot of this film? Dicky and his mistress? Harold and his numbers racket? The war between the Italians and the Blacks? Tony...being young? It feels like two of these really needed to be cut out. I feel like the first hour could have been condensed down A LOT, or wiped out entirely depending on which of the four plots you really want.

Not to mention, the narration at the start, middle and ESPECIALLY the end line is horrible. A cut should be made that removes it.

It didn't ruin anything, but yeah, I'm disappointed. The only real positive I can give the film is that Tony, Junior and Livia *feel* like Tony, Junior and Livia and not just actors trying to mimic them.

I'd say if anyone got spoiled that's their own fault for not watching one of the most acclaimed TV shows.

If you go into this without watching the Sopranos, you're going to have a lot more problems than simply being spoiled on that one thing.

Honestly, how has someone who wants to not watched the Sopranos? It's on Amazon Prime, they play it on HBO all the time still, I think they even used to run censored episodes on A&E

 

[Mongo0o]

It wasn't good but it was leagues above El Camino. Much like how Sopranos is above Breaking Bad. They are both very good.

 

[Solid Snek]

Ok based on you two I'll give it a chance and if you led me wrong I will find you hogtie you then turn you into fucking gabagool.

It's ok. I went in blind (didn't even know it was a thing until yesterday) but while it's not quite a third of the movie, and not <super> woke, there IS a major b-plot involving black gangs that goes basically nowhere, and feels like classic 90s tokenism. The final scene in the movie involves them, too, which is a strange decision.

bUt ItAliAns liKe muSSoliNi, so fuck 'em right?

I don't know if I'd give it a 7/10, that seems a bit too generous. I didn't hate it, but as other people are saying - it's rushed and full of stuff that goes nowhere. That's not necessarily NEW with the Sopranos, seeing as the Sopranos is famous for going nowhere, but it doesn't feel like it's going nowhere Because Art Reasons. It feels like it's going nowhere because the production team wanted to cash in on nostalgia, but didn't have the money to do a new series.

The casting's pretty good, and I actually thought the mom was Carmella for a minute. It'd be nice to have at least one season with these people, but eh...? If this is the end of the Sopranos, going out on a whimper, that's fine too. Don't really care any more.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Just got back

I'm disappointed. The actual acting, direction and cinematography I was fine with, but the writing and pacing are awful. Way too many plots, and way too much focus on building up characters we already know than can realistically be done in two hours. Scenes go from one to another with little to no connectivity. Just really fucking messy.

There is a solid base there for a great season of television, but the way it is told in the film is just awful.

Without spoiling anything, the film just felt like it didn't know WTF it wanted to be. Especially with the final line of the film. And especially knowing that it was added after the fact. Just...holy fuck. If David Chase okayed that what a fucking hack cause it honestly feels like it was put in by the suits.

 

[Gone Ham]

The general consensus is that it wanted its cake and to eat it too. I’m glad I wasn’t the only person in the boat. Also did Ray Liotta play two people in the film?