Infected MAP/NOMAP community - "Virtuous Pedophiles" has a prodigy

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queerape said:
A bunch of pedos suggesting a charectar from a children's show is a pedo is...concerning
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No different from troons claiming certain characters are trannies or people claiming certain characters are stand-in for whatever ideology they espouse.

These types have no excuse for their desire to have sex with children, so like the above mentioned groups inventing rationalizations for their desires, so the MAP crowd wants to clothe their deviance in a shroud of acceptability.
 
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GethN7 said:
No different from troons claiming certain characters are trannies or people claiming certain characters are stand-in for whatever ideology they espouse.

These types have no excuse for their desire to have sex with children, so like the above mentioned groups inventing rationalizations for their desires, so the MAP crowd wants to clothe their deviance in a shroud of acceptability.
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i would argue it's worse than the troons claiming certain characters are trans because most troons are not JY and don't have any risk of physically harming kids.

Here these cartoon characters are liked by kids, a kid could easily find this and normalize pedos, making them more likely to get groomed and molested. Thats whats concerning me.
 
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Sorry it's going to be a little TMI and I cringed a lot when I typed this message.

But I used to be a teenager who defends pedos. I had met one on an internet forum, he did a "pedophile coming out", he admitted to writing "erotic" stories with children to calm his desire and that he will never touch a single child because 'real children cannot consent and they are dirty'. He was polite and strangely, he seemed convincing, in my head I said to myself "ok he writes pedo stories but if he says that it's for prevent him from touching kids, it's a good thing right? ". I then started to defend pedophiles, because I had compassion for them, and after all they are human, they were born like that and if they said they won't touch any kids, why people would still hate them, right??

Fortunately it did not last long because I've never thought of seeing on the side of the victims, so I read read testimonies and watched several documentaries, one had struck me enough, it was a pedophile man of 30 years, he wanted to be cure and sworn to never touch a child in his life, that he would die a virgin because he didn't want to have sex with adults...
3 years later, he was arrested: He raped a minor, at that time I remembered the pedophile who wrote "erotic" stories, and if he too had already acted out? I will never know.

TL;DR Fuck pedos. They are and will destroying the lives of hundred of thousands children, every time I read a testimony from a victim of pedophilia, I feel guilty because I was on the side of their rapist.
Most teens believe in conspiracy theories, well many believe pedophiles are innocent, pedophiles who want to lower the legal age because teenagers are mature enough to consent, are dangerous.
 
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I saw that disgusting Todd Nickerson video from years back and one thing always stuck out: This "person" and others like him swear that their intentions are "pure", that there's "nothing wrong" with being attracted to minors. But then they turn around and call themselves VirPeds????? WTF like they'd never touch a kid, no way, that would be wrong!

Hey wait a minute...you just fucking said that there was NOTHING WRONG with your oh so pure intentions uwu. They know damn well they're wrong and they know damn well the damage they do with their thinking otherwise they'd say it loud and proud in the wild.
 
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I saw that disgusting Todd Nickerson video from years back and one thing always stuck out: This "person" and others like him swear that their intentions are "pure", that there's "nothing wrong" with being attracted to minors. But then they turn around and call themselves VirPeds????? WTF like they'd never touch a kid, no way, that would be wrong!

Hey wait a minute...you just fucking said that there was NOTHING WRONG with your oh so pure intentions uwu. They know damn well they're wrong and they know damn well the damage they do with their thinking otherwise they'd say it loud and proud in the wild.
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And Todd himself actually did molest children so...
 
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Jean_Porte said:
Sorry it's going to be a little TMI and I cringed a lot when I typed this message.

But I used to be a teenager who defends pedos. I had met one on an internet forum, he did a "pedophile coming out", he admitted to writing "erotic" stories with children to calm his desire and that he will never touch a single child because 'real children cannot consent and they are dirty'. He was polite and strangely, he seemed convincing, in my head I said to myself "ok he writes pedo stories but if he says that it's for prevent him from touching kids, it's a good thing right? ". I then started to defend pedophiles, because I had compassion for them, and after all they are human, they were born like that and if they said they won't touch any kids, why people would still hate them, right??

Fortunately it did not last long because I've never thought of seeing on the side of the victims, so I read read testimonies and watched several documentaries, one had struck me enough, it was a pedophile man of 30 years, he wanted to be cure and sworn to never touch a child in his life, that he would die a virgin because he didn't want to have sex with adults...
3 years later, he was arrested: He raped a minor, at that time I remembered the pedophile who wrote "erotic" stories, and if he too had already acted out? I will never know.

TL;DR Fuck pedos. They are and will destroying the lives of hundred of thousands children, every time I read a testimony from a victim of pedophilia, I feel guilty because I was on the side of their rapist.
Most teens believe in conspiracy theories, well many believe pedophiles are innocent, pedophiles who want to lower the legal age because teenagers are mature enough to consent, are dangerous.
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Honestly? I still do have sympathy for people who have attractions that are out of their control, and I do think they need a lot of help. I see nothing wrong with what you did. I wouldn’t defend pedos who have offended before, because those people obviously have desires that overpower their own morality and willpower, and they should be locked up... but those who are aware that it’s morally wrong and actively fight it? I do have sympathy for those people. And a lot of them were abused as children themselves which caused their sexuality to develop that way, which was totally out of their control.

I think some of them deserve a chance and need to be put on meds and strict therapy, but never allowed near children ofc. But fuck this MAP bullshit. Keep it to yourself if you’re a pedo and seek help. The movement is ass-backwards. Pedophilia is not normal and never will be.
 
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brutal poodle said:
Honestly? I still do have sympathy for people who have attractions that are out of their control, and I do think they need a lot of help. I see nothing wrong with what you did. I wouldn’t defend pedos who have offended before, because those people obviously have desires that overpower their own morality and willpower, and they should be locked up... but those who are aware that it’s morally wrong and actively fight it? I do have sympathy for those people. And a lot of them were abused as children themselves which caused their sexuality to develop that way, which was totally out of their control.

I think some of them deserve a chance and need to be put on meds and strict therapy, but never allowed near children ofc. But fuck this MAP bullshit. Keep it to yourself if you’re a pedo and seek help. The movement is ass-backwards. Pedophilia is not normal and never will be.
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What I find most disturbing is that these deviants want to convince not only themselves but others that they shouldn't be ashamed of their desires.

Shame is not a bad thing. At one point or another, we've all been in a traffic jam and been tempted to pull a stunt out of Grand Theft Auto out of frustration, but the shame of consequences for doing so both legally and socially serves to restrain us from doing a dangerous and unlawful act just because we hate being stuck in traffic.

Pedophilia has the same stigma attached because any rational person knows that to go after a defenseless person and force yourself on them, even if you don't buy any of the moral arguments against it, will get you consequences that will be legally and socially terrible for you to deal with, and that shame should serve to deter you from acting on those impulses.

What terrifies me is their desire to eliminate the stigma of shame pedophilia rightfully deserves, because once they convince themselves they shouldn't be bound by that, society as a whole will be endangered by those who have no restraint on their impulse to do an act that is universally reviled.
 
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brutal poodle said:
Honestly? I still do have sympathy for people who have attractions that are out of their control, and I do think they need a lot of help. I see nothing wrong with what you did. I wouldn’t defend pedos who have offended before, because those people obviously have desires that overpower their own morality and willpower, and they should be locked up... but those who are aware that it’s morally wrong and actively fight it? I do have sympathy for those people. And a lot of them were abused as children themselves which caused their sexuality to develop that way, which was totally out of their control.

I think some of them deserve a chance and need to be put on meds and strict therapy, but never allowed near children ofc. But fuck this MAP bullshit. Keep it to yourself if you’re a pedo and seek help. The movement is ass-backwards. Pedophilia is not normal and never will be.
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What these NOMAPS need is a good accountability group. There are some recovery groups which require that their members 'check in' with a sponsor every day. Give them something like that. Every morning, contact your sponsor. Every evening, attend a meeting - call it Malsexuals Anonymous or whatever - where they keep each other on the straight and narrow. In other words, treat these deves the same way Narcotics Anonymous treats the junkies.

Insofar as the lolicon scene is concerned, I'd allow it, but I would require that it be heavily monitored to keep children from getting involved. In other words, all characters must be 100% fictional. I know that lolicon is cringey asf, and I don't like it any more than you do. I also know that the pervs need a way to safely blow off steam, and 100% fictional lolicon may very well be a necessary evil. We give methadone to heroin addicts; why not lolicon to NOMAPS?
 
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When Nickerson talked about enjoying being around children, I knew instantly he was not as innocent as he said he was.

I love being around beautiful men. And like all of us, whether you're a man around beautiful women, or a women around beautiful women, or a man around beautiful men, we sexualise other human beings. We enjoy it. All of us have fantasies. Some of us derive sexual gratification from them. We also chase. We find ways to pique others interest in us, we use all sorts of techniques to establish physical contact, we touch each other's arms or put our hands on the shoulders of others. We're just animals.

So Nickerson being around children, he IS actively offending even if his dick isn't in some five year old girl. He is masturbating thinking of the children he is around and is most definitely practising 'good touch' - the kind a parent is creeped by but not ready to call 911 over - but the kind of touch shittier parents from certain communities and demographics sometimes ignore. He is probably grooming parents into a false sense of security in order to gain access.

I had a guy in my work who touched/stroked and held my hands for a very long time, he chose to do it specifically off the premises while I was out smoking after I had served him around twenty minutes prior, I didn't want to tell him to fuck off because it was only my second day, and as I had to smoke off premises, it doesn't exactly constitute as a workplace issue. I'm certain he had either just masturbated, or got/was going to get sexual pleasure from what he was doing, I just knew it - it was not friendly. It was a power play.

That is what these 'non offenders' do. They get sneakier. They forfeit rape or blatant sexual assault for the little things, they also like snagging someone of age sometimes, because if they get one of age who looks scarily young physically and facially, they're completely off the hook.

Because a predator can touch the hands of very petite, very very young looking girls who still pass for child tickets, who are obviously nervous and in a vulnerable position for much longer than they can rape and molest people. It's more sustainable. Not the real thing, but it's not gonna get you locked up. You're not gonna get the register for touching forearms, hands.
 
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So Nickerson being around children, he IS actively offending even if his dick isn't in some five year old girl. He is masturbating thinking of the children he is around and is most definitely practising 'good touch' - the kind a parent is creeped by but not ready to call 911 over - but the kind of touch shittier parents from certain communities and demographics sometimes ignore. He is probably grooming parents into a false sense of security in order to gain access.
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Yup - that's why part of the deal with NOMAP toleration is NO CONTACT. This Nickerson character was pursuing contact. Touching arms and hands? That's contact, and true NOMAPS don't do that.

To be clear: If the NOMAP pedos want me to tolerate their existence, they need to stay far away from children and pictures of children. Go down into the back alley, where children do not go, and stay there forever. Have all the lolicon and child sex dolls you want, IDGAF - just keep children out of it, and keep your twisted fantasies to yourself.
 
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eldri said:
The podcast, Who Are These Podcasts, a podcast review show that gawks and laughs at terrible podcasts, just posted their episode about the "MAPs irl" podcast.
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I watched that episode and I highly suggest everyone else do so. Let me preview a few of the absolutely insane things that they hear during their review:

1. One of the guest pedophiles is a woman with what she claims to be a severe mental illness and 3(?) children. She has apparently kissed one of them on the penis.

2. A guest/co-host on one episode of the show claimed that when he came out to everyone nobody in the school he went to batted an eye. His student group accepted him with open arms as a proud gay pedophile.

3. Another guest/co-host said that nobody in his personal life was surprised when he came out as a gay pedophile (notice a trend? The full-time host is also gay and a pedophile, really makes u think). In fact, his friends were totally happy to support him and his "progressive" mother jokes about little boys she sees and points them out to him.
 
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Internet never stops to surprise me. It is one thing being a pedophile and being ashamed of who you are, hence staying low. It is another thing being a pedophile, who has zero shame about who you are. However this? Not only being a pedophile, but stating this openly in the Internet and trying to convince normal people, that you're right and they are wrong? This is beyond everything I could imagine.
 
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Mertor said:
Internet never stops to surprise me. It is one thing being a pedophile and being ashamed of who you are, hence staying low. It is another thing being a pedophile, who has zero shame about who you are. However this? Not only being a pedophile, but stating this openly in the Internet and trying to convince normal people, that you're right and they are wrong? This is beyond everything I could imagine.
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The NOMAP crowd would get much more acceptance than it does if they would go the 12 Step route and admit that they are sickies who need help from a Higher Power. Ever wonder why there's no Addict Pride flag? That is because being an addict is sick and shameful - just like being a pedo is sick and shameful. Both the addict and the pedophile can benefit from Higher Powers, sponsors, and accountability groups - but only if they are prepared to admit that they are powerless over their illness and get a Higher Power and support group to ensure their abstinence from mood-altering chemicals (addicts) or children (pedophiles).

[Edited to fix typos and clarify a badly-worded sentence - DoN]
 
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