Marathon 2025 - Bungie's new AAAA Extraction shooter

On sale on Steam too

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creaturestorm said:
Yeah, It's likely the game gets shut down, but I think it’s more likely something else happens to it entirely.
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What the fuck else would happen to it?

creaturestorm said:
There are two threads on the farms for shitting on Marathon. We've got a reverse Gunt guarder situation on our hands here.
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Probably because the game is shit and its more fun to talk about than to actually play.
 
I Know 孤独のせい said:
Can somebody enlighten my as to why Destiny got popular in the first place ? I spent a couple of hours in both games but found them utterly boring. Bungie's fabled gun play made me fall asleep.
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Speaking for myself, there were a few reasons why it hooked me. I'll try to keep it brief.

The initial reveal really pulled me in with the setting and the art direction. A future post-apocalypse where you're exploring the ruins of the entire Solar System really pressed my buttons as a space nerd, mixing in fantastical elements with the whole space magic aspect. And mixing guns and magic is always up my alley; I just replayed the BioShock series and was reminded that that was probably where that particular enjoyment came from. It honestly felt like it had been tailor-made to be something I needed to play, and with Bungie having had a good track record with Halo for the previous decade, it seemed a sure thing.

When it came out...yeah, it had issues. The story was pretty barebones, there wasn't a lot of activities to do, and loot was so stingy that players resorted to shooting indefinitely into a cave to get a decent amount of drops. But I could still see the potential there, so I kept at it. It got better over time (and sometimes worse), and it's given me some truly great memories over the past decade+. (And it's not just the loot chase that has kept me going; I am a vocal proponent of systems that help mitigate RNG bullshit, and I refuse to farm an activity for a minuscule chance of getting a good roll.)

I don't wanna be That Guy who says you need to play a hundred hours before it gets good, but I can understand why it might not immediately click in the first couple of hours when you have the most basic bitch guns and before you have access to every power in your toolbox. And that's without getting into how absolutely retarded D2's new player experience is now, where the game throws a bunch of bullshit at you and refuses to explain anything. It's very much a game that you either love or don't. And as someone who does, it remains immensely frustrating how much Bungie has squandered its potential over the years.
 
BeetleBug242 said:
Beyond all reason, free RTS with a more active playbase than most.
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I'm garbage at it going into mid and late game but never underestimate the autist that knows how to rush Arm light tanks or I'll stick you in the kidneys all the same.
 
I Know 孤独のせい said:
Can somebody enlighten my as to why Destiny got popular in the first place ? I spent a couple of hours in both games but found them utterly boring. Bungie's fabled gun play made me fall asleep.
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They feel good on a controller, the abilities can be cool and the overall "committing to nothing but having a bit of everything" aesthetic with the characters sometimes just works wonders if one cares about that. It has enough of that generic "cool" to it which is why a lot of people try it in the first place.

When you pull off something that you deem difficult, with a build you came up with and perhaps with some nice teamwork, it can be pretty sweet. In PvP there's a lot to master just in movement alone.

The RNG hamster wheel was just a bonus, I didn't care for it that much.
 
Grummz made a post about Bungie being in trouble because of the investigation into Southern Poverty Law Center
Bungie is in trouble. So @Bungie is the biggest game company supporting the just indicted Southern Poverty Law Center.The SPLC is accused of defrauding donors by directly funding leaders of these hate groups including the Ku Klux Klan. They set up elaborate shell corporations to funnel the money. The FBI alleges funds were use to create more hate crimes.

You can figure out the scam from here: - Raise money to "fight" hate groups
- Fund hate groups to create real crime
- Use crimes as evidence to raise more money.

The SPLC was the real hate organization all along. Bungie was the loudest, most vocal supporter of the SPLC, raising hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions for the group:
- Direct financial grants to the SPLC
- Annual BLM "Be Heard" player event to sell pins to fund the SPLC.
- Charity events and streams to raise money for the SPLC via the Bungie Foundation.
- Game2GGive campaigns that also supported SPLCBungie has some explaining to do.

The SPLC was a classic shake-down organization that painted groups as hate groups and forced their way into all the "safety" teams of major social media, including Old Twitter. This gave them power to advise who got de-platformed, who got de-boosted, and who got banned and to help set speech policies. This is who Bungie was supporting. This is who they fell for. Bungie must immediately and publicly cut ties to the SPLC.
https://x.com/Grummz/status/2046750060122407401/photo/1
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Decided to look into it, and it is true.


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creaturestorm said:
We are approaching 7 weeks of being the most searched game on steamdb

Nobody would play that and making it something retards would way would cost even more money. Why would you play single player Marathon over a game like Pragmata?
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Unfortunately, searching on steamdb generates $0 for Bungie/Sony, so, being the top searched game actually does not matter at all.

A single player mode wouldn't cost all that much (because the game exists already) and could be something that helps to grow the community by having an onboarding ramp for new players (or new-to-genre players) who might be nervous to spend $40 to jump into a game without anything to do but Multiplayer.
 
ScurvyRat said:
What the fuck else would happen to it?
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A tear down and rebuild of the game play loop, swapping it out for something else. They have the entirety of D2's assets if they wanted to pivot away from an extraction shooter entirely.

There are already signs of them trying to get away from the hardcore aspects of the game. Today they just doubled the healing consumes that come in starter kits, doubled the amount you can have per slot, and now regular enemies are dropping them.

Tanner Glass said:
A single player mode wouldn't cost all that much (because the game exists already) and could be something that helps to grow the community by having an onboarding ramp for new players (or new-to-genre players) who might be nervous to spend $40 to jump into a game without anything to do but Multiplayer.
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Not sure how to say this... I mean, I couldn't imagine them making something like Doom the dark ages with what they have now, but just a single player version of the game they have now wouldn't cost much.

I wonder if the reason they don't do it is a fear about effecting micro transactions.

Professor Donger said:
Decided to look into it, and it is true.
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Was there anything this retarded and gay happening 100 years ago or are we unique in this time line?

Just trying to play a video game, ended up supporting the KKK.

lmao the more i think about this the crazier it is. I don't think the normie crowd is coming back guys.
 
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creaturestorm said:
Was there anything this retarded and gay happening 100 years ago or are we unique in this time line?

Just trying to play a video game, ended up supporting the KKK.

lmao the more i think about this the crazier it is. I don't think the normie crowd is coming back guys.
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Was there a symbiotic relationship between an anti-racism group and the racism it was supposed to be dealing with 100 years ago? Probably not.

Have similar symbiotic relationships existed in the past with different variations? Yes, absolutely. You should always be wary of someone who has staked their life and career solely on ending a problem, because if the problem stops existing, their career does too.
 
creaturestorm said:
Not sure how to say this... I mean, I couldn't imagine them making something like Doom the dark ages with what they have now, but just a single player version of the game they have now wouldn't cost much.

I wonder if the reason they don't do it is a fear about effecting micro transactions.
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It's like I said before, the overlap between "people who want a good story and enjoy delving into deep lore" and "hardcore FPS crowd" is practically nil. Can't tell you how many times I've heard people asking what's going on in a Destiny raid; for them, the story is really nothing more than "you good guy, shoot bad guy." I can't imagine it's any different for the average Marathon player.

It's always felt like a really bizarre direction, taking a series that helped to pioneer storytelling in a single-player FPS campaign and slapping its name on a multiplayer-only game instead, alienating both existing fans (like me) and newcomers that would prefer to go at their own pace and not get interrupted by Randy McDickbag. I doubt they'd change it anytime soon because they don't want to lose face, but maybe I could see them doing a single-player/co-op rework in the future.

As for MTX...I mean, the first infamous piece of cosmetic DLC was Oblivion's horse armor, and that was a single-player game. I can't see a potential single-player mode moving the needle too much one way or the other.
 
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