Marathon 2025 - Bungie's new AAAA Extraction shooter

[Vhailor]

Marathon voice director says the game’s online hate campaign is “sad more than anything” as “people just want to hate”, article + archieve​

I just want to comment few parts of the article.

Since Bungie’s announcement, the brilliant game-of-the-year-worthy extraction shooter has been hit with review bomb campaigns and even more online hate directed towards fans and developers.

Game of the year worthy extraction shooter . No chance, especially after D2 dying + Game of the year award are generally biased against games from first half of the year (unless it is big hit of course).

“I saw some guy like, I don’t want to get into specifics, but they’re just like, ‘I hope Bungie fails because of the woke leftist ideology.’ And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’” the actor told PC Gamer.

They like to ignore like 90% of reasons why people call Bungie/Marathon woke and focus on things most people have no problem with. He voices Assassin character which is worst looking class in the game because it is clearly non-binary/trans, but he would never mention it since he has to pretend being clueless. Or having whole Destiny 2 season about immigration and chuddy leader of faction hating them. Or having so many gay couples in Destiny 2 that easier to count straight ones. Or Nimbus.

The current campaign that comes after the Destiny 2 news is even more confusing. “I understand Bungie made a game, Destiny 2, that people loved, and then they kind of were like, ‘We’re gonna put that on hold and we’re gonna work on Marathon.’ People got upset about that,” he said. “Cool, don’t play Marathon. That’s fine, speak with your wallet, that’s fine.”

First, seems like not all hate comes from chuddy gamers since they would never play games from "woke leftist ideology" studio in the first place. Second, Bungie didn't put it on hold, they have just killed Destiny 2. Yet another dishonesty, IMO Destiny players have all right to hate Marathon since they've never asked for it.

The actor says “it’s sad more than anything”, adding that “life is so short, man. Just stop tweeting memes under things for six hours.”

I appreciate his advice and it is actually good one. However, there are many "woke" people who did/does same just because they hate something about games/personalities. "It is just a game" so why you try to change every aspect of it? Why cannot it be slightly vulgar and cheesy? Players are probably lamest and laziest people, most young men would never be even near to politics if games were still good.

They also sometimes like to act like the culture war is made up which is a true statement (it somehow became super active exactly after Occupy Wall Street protests). But then using "war" terminology they are nothing else but invaders/aggressors dropping like paratroopers or Blitzkrieg-doctrine soldiers.

what the hell does this mean?

Deadlock, new game from Valve, I assume he replaced first part of the word with "pedo".

 

[StacticShock]

Elias Toufexis is now complaining about gamers having a problem with woke games.

lol, what a retard, no one asked for this and he is trying to farm goodboy points with the industry, fitting for a canuck tbh.

 

[moocow]

Deadlock = Pedlock or Pedcock

I am just mocking its name in the way Yahtzee Croshaw(back when he was funny) would mock games he did not like such as Destiny and call it Molestiny or Density

kek I'm dumb and didn't even consider it was just an insult portmanteau.

Marathon voice director says the game’s online hate campaign is “sad more than anything” as “people just want to hate”

It's incredible to me how allergic these people are to criticism. All this word play, all this name-calling, blame-shifting, endless word-wanking. And it's all because they just cannot handle hearing "your game sucked."

It really shocks these people that their potential customers are allowed to say "lol, nah, looks like trash" and their paying customers are allowed to have negative opinions about the product they purchased.

You know who I don't see complaining about "online hate campaigns" despite the presence (I haven't checked for one, but I guarantee there is one) of people who don't like the film Pulp Fiction? Quentin Tarantino. You know why? Because it's a good film. There are plenty of things about it to criticize, and there are plenty of people who don't like it, but it's still entertaining and widely regarded as a good film. It was financially and critically successful.

Generally speaking, when you make something that's actually good (even just subjectively speaking), you don't have to worry about "online hate campaigns." Genuinely good products don't fail because of "online hate campaigns."

If these faggots spent a tenth of the effort they spend whining about criticism actually trying to make something actually good, they might eventually make something good and successful, even if just by fucking accident.

 

[United Abominations]

kek I'm dumb and didn't even consider it was just an insult portmanteau.


It's incredible to me how allergic these people are to criticism. All this word play, all this name-calling, blame-shifting, endless word-wanking. And it's all because they just cannot handle hearing "your game sucked."

It really shocks these people that their potential customers are allowed to say "lol, nah, looks like trash" and their paying customers are allowed to have negative opinions about the product they purchased.

You know who I don't see complaining about "online hate campaigns" despite the presence (I haven't checked for one, but I guarantee there is one) of people who don't like the film Pulp Fiction? Quentin Tarantino. You know why? Because it's a good film. There are plenty of things about it to criticize, and there are plenty of people who don't like it, but it's still entertaining and widely regarded as a good film. It was financially and critically successful.

Generally speaking, when you make something that's actually good (even just subjectively speaking), you don't have to worry about "online hate campaigns." Genuinely good products don't fail because of "online hate campaigns."

If these faggots spent a tenth of the effort they spend whining about criticism actually trying to make something actually good, they might eventually make something good and successful, even if just by fucking accident.

Pedlock and Ramathon having "Calico" and "Triage" as ugly androgynous niggers alongside horny onlyfans deftones e-whores shows the devs spent their budget on two things

sociology lessons and onlyfans models

between ugly niggers and the goth e girl it represents the duality of bugman being either a totally woke soylord or an absolute cumbrained chudjak

 

[Konigsberg]

Marathon voice director says the game’s online hate campaign is “sad more than anything” as “people just want to hate”

Time for the Marathon cope articles already huh? Must be planning the funeral early.

It's incredible to me how allergic these people are to criticism. All this word play, all this name-calling, blame-shifting, endless word-wanking. And it's all because they just cannot handle hearing "your game sucked."

I think it's genuinely because the games industry is more incestuous than a Pakistani family reunion. All the major studios just end up trading employees around as they release flops, downside their workforce, build up for the next release, then flop again. These studios are made up of people whose personalities are practically interchangeable with little noticeable difference, live in areas where they are isolated from people who hold differing views or taste, and are surrounded by people who churn out the same poorly written, poorly coded, LGBLT filled slop everywhere they've worked. It probably is a genuine shock for them to be told their work is shit, because to them the garbage they make is baseline normal for them and their co-workers.

The modern games industry is a strange one where the average resume at this point has to contain more failed projects than successful ones, and yet the people most responsible for said repeated failures (management) are the most likely to get re-hired somewhere else to fail all over again. Managers are also typically more willing to cover for workers like themselves, so when failures worm their way into management they make room for more failures to make their way into the general workforce of a company.

 

[Innocence]

you are clearly a ladyboy starcraft player and I see pedlock and league of legends as just fucking awful and the gameplay is just absurdly fucking boring to me

their gameplay is made for retards who suck at old games or even modern games that are too hard lmfao, and the visual cues being fetish art is repulsive to me because i know its made to tempt whales into buying skins for it

When a gooner game is well made I will play it and get insanely good at it as long as the gameplay is good and does not put me to sleep like MOBAs, like Stellar Blade which is a gooner game with an aesthetic I do not care for but the fact it has elements of Sekiro and MGR made me buy it

To ellucidate on why I feel design language matters I see the visual cues of MOBAs and live service games as inherently predatory and an old Crowbcat had a video on the predatory nature of TF2 and how visual cues are absolutely everything in making people feel compelled to spend money or how TF2 has degraded as a game because monetization and microtransactions are more important now so putting im trannies and twinks and furries and homestuck characters into deadlock makes absolute sense because those femcel gooner types will spend money on skins to dress up their kpop idol like the son they will never have and express their jocasta complex as many gooners who are porn addled are more likely to spend money and make bad financial decisions

Then prove yourself true, go get challenger in league, immortal in dota or eternus in Deadlock. I'm sure if they guys dominating the new games put their minds to it they would rape old games, the newer generation keeps getting better and better at games, with new pros starting earlier and earlier like in conventional sports.

This gay ass cope of Back in my day we had it rough can't be legitimately rationalized, you can call League boring but its far from simple or made for casuals, game has hundreds of characters and even if the amount that are meta is small its still hundreds of skills, items and interactions one has to ascertain and remember as opposed to 10 - 20 attacks patterns a boss might have. As good as Nigga Gaiden 1 is, a large part of its difficulty comes from its awful camera and terrible attack tracking, that is total lack of targeting.

Games have gotten far harder than they used to be, the old armored cores are the prime example awful controls and full of enemies that don't follow the rules the player has, the have infinite energy, no weight limit and sometimes infinite ammo. Now go beat leviathan in Devil Daggers or Hyper Demons, where you have all tools and all standing between you and a "win" is your skill.

Also nice Self Own, Stellar blade has nothing of MGR and doesn't even resemble a platinum game, being just a weird clone of sekiro without most of a souls likes mechanic. For extra points you can go play that game on Hard mode for the great sense of difficulty of multiplying the enemies health by 8x, since it was added in an update and its isn't meant to be played in NG+.

 

[United Abominations]

@Innocence lmfao no tranny touching dota is like touching linux you severely risk catching gender if you touch that shit so i am going to remain ignorant and being ignorant is awesome

valve made linux gaming possible and now they have a tranny game, it is not a coincidence

mass effect taught me that the repears make some pretty convincing arguments for wanting to be turned into a husk but its still being turned into a husk so i know i have to trust my instincts and never touch dota or league because it might give me terminal gender disease and get a sociology degree tbh

i dont know what meta or pay attention to that is either because i am not a femboy but every fag who called the BR meta in halo 3 couldnt deal with me using the AR or plasma rifle so im convinced its just a femboy indoctrination tactic

i will remain playing my school shooter coded games and you will not infect me with gender

 

[Thiletonomics]

What I wonder about the Marathon discourse, including both diehard Stans of the game and the devs blaming the community for "review bombing" the game, is have they also tried to call out other games for "sabotaging" Marathon's launch, like how MindsEye developer Build A Rocket Boy tried to do? Does the presence of more successful games like Crimson Desert, Pragmata (?), Subnautica 2's Early Access, and Forza Horizon 6 makes the Marathon Stans and devs tard rage like Chris-Chan? Heck, if they actually do, I can see them also seething about Uma Musume and Blue Archive too, even though the overlap of player interest of those games with Marathon is almost non-existent.

 

[United Abominations]

Dota 2 is a tranny game and so is Ramathon

Its like reaper tech in Mass Effect it may be advanced and unfathomably forward thinking but if you touch or go near this shit you start talking about the meta and eventually full blown gender disease and buy Belle Delphine bathwater

 

[dame dudi jench]

(1) subset of marathon players lulzing at the death of d2. i think it's mostly laughing at bungie fucking up but hard to say.

(2) Building off my point here, I just saw the first trans gamer in the wild talk about it, and they weren't happy, reporting an extremely chudly playerbase, so chudly that it cured their autism.

To the limited extent people even care, the game has a pretty schizophrenic culture war discourse around it. I bought the game on sale and with cheap regional pricing only after the controversy erupted b/c i wanted to form my own opinion of the game.

From my experience it's failing because it is punishingly sweaty and miserable to play. It is like a MOBA where you are spending hours to grind loot etc. and then gambling it in fast-moving fast-TTK fights on an open world map. then people get really angry b/c some bullshit just cost them 2 hours of their time. like MOBAs it turns people into toxic bossmanjacks. only sweaty tryhard FPS players really enjoy that loop. but those people are very much not libtards, and make fun of the people who ask for a somewhat less miserable experience for being pussies.

yet there's this whole strain of criticism that the game is somehow woke, because tranny gooners have clung to the art style. that itself is complicated IMO. the game is very much system shock style cosmic and body horror, zero DEI content in-game. part of the body horror is that you are a disembodied indentured servant forced to reincarnate into fake bodies woven by silkworms for 20 minutes at a time to pay off your debt. the reason the shells look like this is that they are meant to hold a wide range of body types so ppl don't go crazy while in the shell, and b/c they are put out by large evil megacorps. the shell style is 29th century corporate memphis design and it's meant to be horrific. if anything it's an implicit critique of corporate diversity mandates coming from a studio where diversity mandates are imposed on them. but the game also has to sell skins and players don't like looking at ugly PCs, so they made them all diverse and fuckable for that reason too. hence, the trannies latching onto these uncanny valley sex doll women characters. but, that's true of most of cyberpunk's posthuman aesthetic for similar reasons. i'm not gonna cede cyberpunk to troons b/c of it.

 

[Pod 042]

having whole Destiny 2 season about immigration and chuddy leader of faction hating them

He may be gay now, but at least he still called them Figgers.

With the hard R.

(2) Building off my point here, I just saw the first trans gamer in the wild talk about it, and they weren't happy, reporting an extremely chudly playerbase.

That tranny is extremely autistic. Also probably exaggerating how "in to" Marathon they are. It's probably more like a passing fancy than genuine interest, they collect interests like magpies.

yet there's this whole strain of criticism that the game is somehow woke, because tranny gooners have clung to the art style. that itself is complicated IMO. the game is very much system shock style cosmic and body horror, zero DEI content in-game. part of the body horror is that you are a disembodied indentured servant forced to reincarnate into fake bodies woven by silkworms for 20 minutes at a time to pay off your debt. the reason the shells look like this is that they are meant to hold a wide range of body types so ppl don't go crazy while in the shell, and b/c they are put out by large evil megacorps. the shell style is 29th century corporate memphis design and it's meant to be horrific. if anything it's an implicit critique of corporate diversity mandates coming from a studio where diversity mandates are imposed on them. but the game also has to sell skins and players don't like looking at ugly PCs, so they made them all diverse and fuckable for that reason too. hence, the trannies latching onto these uncanny valley sex doll women characters. but, that's true of most of cyberpunk's posthuman aesthetic for similar reasons. i'm not gonna cede cyberpunk to troons b/c of it.

It's really simple. They project onto everything, so they see a dystopian future with literal debt slaves who's bodies are artificial, cheap plastic and metal and go, "it's just like me FR FR!"(This is how they also seem to end up in every single community). They don't understand deeper meaning or thought, so the actual setting and subject matter is lost on them.
>Game has shells(interchangable bodies)
>Tranny wants that
>Ignores how horrifying it is to be disposable human
>Game has garrish art style thats loud and candy core
>Tranny loves that, pastels are pretty, yay!
>Ignores how it's all corpo slop
>Game is a shooter with some deeper mechanics
>Trannies are autistic, drawn like a moth to a flame
>Ignores that the core audience is probably chuds
I could go on. But the point is, it doesn't have to cater to troons for them to be drawn to it and to project themselves into it. That's why they take such offense at people attacking the game or chuddly representation in the community. Because in their mind it's "theirs" and "made for them". I probably could have phrased that better but you get the idea.

 

[creaturestorm]

They like to ignore like 90% of reasons why people call Bungie/Marathon woke and focus on things most people have no problem with

Hows that quote go? Leftists just pretend not to understand the argument?

That's all this shit is.

(2) Building off my point here, I just saw the first trans gamer in the wild talk about it, and they weren't happy, reporting an extremely chudly playerbase, so chudly that it cured their autism.

I mad at myself for reading that fucking rant.

 

[United Abominations]

@dame dudi jench You were given a MATI for just posting about Ram-ass-on and the cultish behavior and toxic positivity behind it

You were not for against it and just pointed out a happenimg, I am against it and be deliberately inflammatory about it like how Yahtzee Croshaw used to bash live service trash and get people mad(Eve online was the funniest imo)

Even here it exists, sunken cost fallacy I guess people and get attached to their $40 skinner box/hamster wheel games to do the same task of "shoot the guys over there" over and over ad infinitum

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

He may be gay now, but at least he still called them Figgers.

With the hard R.

You know what's funny? This nigga got off scott free.

Saint-14 was saved from his death by technicality, we did not resurrect him, we simply brought him to the present before he died, meaning, to maintain the timeline, he will have to go back and die , but because the franchise is ending, he has escaped causality.

same with the Player Character, in the stupid "unlock the Bastion" ARG, you find your future casket, but that will never be relevant, because the game is simply ceasing to have any loose ends tied up.

 

[Fucker Carlson]

First, seems like not all hate comes from chuddy gamers since they would never play games from "woke leftist ideology" studio in the first place. Second, Bungie didn't put it on hold, they have just killed Destiny 2. Yet another dishonesty, IMO Destiny players have all right to hate Marathon since they've never asked for it.

You have all rights to dislike anything you want for any reason. You don't need a game developer's approval to do so. This article is retarded for implying otherwise.

 

[scallion]

Pedlock and Ramathon having "Calico" and "Triage" as ugly androgynous niggers alongside horny onlyfans deftones e-whores shows the devs spent their budget on two things

sociology lessons and onlyfans models

between ugly niggers and the goth e girl it represents the duality of bugman being either a totally woke soylord or an absolute cumbrained chudjak

For me, it's the gargoyle.

 

[United Abominations]

For me, it's the gargoyle.

All the dialogue reminds me of when Sam Hyde set up the pony dating simulator scam

The similarity is uncanny and the first thing I thought of was if it was a Sam Hyde scam

"Try growing up without a Father" vs "YOU DONT KNOW YOUR DAD" is why it reminds me of an MDE scam

 

[scallion]

All the dialogue reminds me of when Sam Hyde set up the pony dating simulator scam

The similarity is uncanny and the first thing I thought of was if it was a Sam Hyde scam

"Try growing up without a Father" vs "YOU DONT KNOW YOUR DAD" is why it reminds me of an MDE scam

Bungie and Valve are both staffed by Seattle bug people millenials, hence why the gargoyle in question sounds like a mexican ghetto nigger despite being a Spanish gargoyle. Their exposure to diverse personalities are through pop culture and hollywood.

 

[Toxic BRAAAAP Mask]

I'd maybe buy the body horror corpo mephis angle if they didn't look like they modeled them after Chifundo from the Ethiopian restaurant down the block from their offices. (or whatver DEI hire is down the hall)

Body horror needs to have some sort of allure when you're forced to play as the horror, no one wants to play as an unattractive model AND have a soul-crushing dystopia angle on top of it. Plus there's multiple reasons a mega corp would make the shells attractive that make more sense than them not.

It only really works when you're fighting against the body horror drones or the character model is so far removed from human that it doesn't trigger the dissonance. But Bungie, in their infinite wisdom, purposefully chose every option that rails against classical beauty standards in art and design from model down to incongruous angles and curves to color palette. It's somehow even worse than the trend in gaming to throw turqoise and orange on everything, so kudos I guess?

 

[Steven Chapman]

I'd maybe buy the body horror corpo mephis angle if they didn't look like they modeled them after Chifundo from the Ethiopian restaurant down the block from their offices. (or whatver DEI hire is down the hall)
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Body horror needs to have some sort of allure when you're forced to play as the horror, no one wants to play as an unattractive model AND have a soul-crushing dystopia angle on top of it. Plus there's multiple reasons a mega corp would make the shells attractive that make more sense than them not.

It only really works when you're fighting against the body horror drones or the character model is so far removed from human that it doesn't trigger the dissonance. But Bungie, in their infinite wisdom, purposefully chose every option that rails against classical beauty standards in art and design from model down to incongruous angles and curves to color palette. It's somehow even worse than the trend in gaming to throw turqoise and orange on everything, so kudos I guess?

Manson-bot is still my favorite shit to come from this retarded fucking game.



This nigger is so fucking ugly, I piss my pants with laughter when I see him. It’s just…so horribly designed, so bizarre, and so uncanny.